Antminer L3 - 250mh - 400watt Scrypt miner coming soon

[theinca]

I just received my two L3+'s from Bitmain and the first thing I noticed that on both units the last board are loose. I can move them with my fingers. Is this normal. If this not normal how do I fix this?

Thanks!!!!  

Your lucky, I had something fall out of mine!

So before I even start it, I have to send back a board!lol

Is it safe to start up with a wobbly board?

[AlecMe]

how long is the ROI on them , atm?

[Albortz]

how long is the ROI on them , atm?

There are calculators for that... Simple google search would have given you a good guess.

Calculate around 200+ days given the low LTC price, the increasing diff and your electricity costs


Mine are doing a whopping 2.50 profit a day per machine (and mine are overclocked)

[Searing]

how long is the ROI on them , atm?

There are calculators for that... Simple google search would have given you a good guess.

Calculate around 200+ days given the low LTC price, the increasing diff and your electricity costs


Mine are doing a whopping 2.50 profit a day per machine (and mine are overclocked)

Using the free pool that pays at 101% www.litecoinpool.org/calc calculator I get the following

At next months summer rate (April 2018) starting soon....of 12c kWh and $142 LTC price and 400w and 250mh an L3 gets below:

$1.79 per day for an L3.

24 hours   0.02073776 LTC   2.94 USD   1.15 USD   1.79 USD
7 days   0.14516432 LTC   20.61 USD   8.06 USD   12.55 USD
30 days   0.62213280 LTC   88.34 USD   34.56 USD   53.78 USD

$3.59 per day for an L3+.

At 12c kWh and 800w and 500mh and $142 LTC price an  L3+ gets below:

24 hours   0.04147552 LTC   5.89 USD   2.30 USD   3.59 USD
7 days   0.29032864 LTC   41.23 USD   16.13 USD   25.10 USD
30 days   1.24426560 LTC   176.69 USD   69.12 USD   107.57 USD

At 12c kWh and 1250w and 300mh and $142 LTC price a KNC Titan gets below:

-$0.07 per day for a 300mh KNC Titan (Sob!)

24 hours   0.02488531 LTC   3.53 USD   3.60 USD   -0.07 USD
7 days   0.17419718 LTC   24.74 USD   25.20 USD   -0.46 USD
30 days   0.74655936 LTC   106.01 USD   108.00 USD   -1.99 USD

So man, do we need a pump in price for all the above reasons. I expect another slash in price for the L3+ on the Bitmain site,

but being Bitmain (let them eat cake!) I could be wrong.

Damn, ugly out there in the Universe of Scrypt-Pow...applied to LTC anyway...

[EvgenyKonyshev]

very interesting

[V-t.Ester]

how long is the ROI on them , atm?

There are calculators for that... Simple google search would have given you a good guess.

Calculate around 200+ days given the low LTC price, the increasing diff and your electricity costs


Mine are doing a whopping 2.50 profit a day per machine (and mine are overclocked)

Using the free pool that pays at 101% www.litecoinpool.org/calc calculator I get the following

At next months summer rate (April 2018) starting soon....of 12c kWh and $142 LTC price and 400w and 250mh an L3 gets below:

$1.79 per day for an L3.

24 hours   0.02073776 LTC   2.94 USD   1.15 USD   1.79 USD
7 days   0.14516432 LTC   20.61 USD   8.06 USD   12.55 USD
30 days   0.62213280 LTC   88.34 USD   34.56 USD   53.78 USD

$3.59 per day for an L3+.

At 12c kWh and 800w and 500mh and $142 LTC price an  L3+ gets below:

24 hours   0.04147552 LTC   5.89 USD   2.30 USD   3.59 USD
7 days   0.29032864 LTC   41.23 USD   16.13 USD   25.10 USD
30 days   1.24426560 LTC   176.69 USD   69.12 USD   107.57 USD

At 12c kWh and 1250w and 300mh and $142 LTC price a KNC Titan gets below:

-$0.07 per day for a 300mh KNC Titan (Sob!)

24 hours   0.02488531 LTC   3.53 USD   3.60 USD   -0.07 USD
7 days   0.17419718 LTC   24.74 USD   25.20 USD   -0.46 USD
30 days   0.74655936 LTC   106.01 USD   108.00 USD   -1.99 USD

So man, do we need a pump in price for all the above reasons. I expect another slash in price for the L3+ on the Bitmain site,

but being Bitmain (let them eat cake!) I could be wrong.

Damn, ugly out there in the Universe of Scrypt-Pow...applied to LTC anyway...

Yeah! L3+ mines only 3.59 LTC per day and profit falls very quickly. Don't know what's up, maybe too many mining rigs are mining so the difficulty went to the moon, but at such rate soon we'll mine for electricity only.

[Searing]

ah...the difference a few days make...

This is at $115 LTC and 12c kWh electric at my end (starting April 1st)

using www.litecoinpool.org/calc

L3 250mh 400watts @ 12c kWh.

$1.13 per day

24 hours   0.01984948 LTC   2.28 USD   1.15 USD   1.13 USD
7 days   0.13894638 LTC   15.98 USD   8.06 USD   7.91 USD
30 days   0.59548447 LTC   68.48 USD   34.56 USD   33.92 USD

L3+ 500mh 800watts @ 12c kWh.

$2.26 per day

24 hours   0.03969896 LTC   4.57 USD   2.30 USD   2.26 USD
7 days   0.27789275 LTC   31.96 USD   16.13 USD   15.83 USD
30 days   1.19096895 LTC   136.96 USD   69.12 USD   67.84 USD

KNC 300mh  1250 watts @ 12c kWh.

-$0.86 per day

24 hours   0.02381938 LTC   2.74 USD   3.60 USD   -0.86 USD
7 days   0.16673565 LTC   19.17 USD   25.20 USD   -6.03 USD
30 days   0.71458137 LTC   82.18 USD   108.00 USD   -25.82 USD

At this rate, the NEXT unit to fall of the network in any LARGE numbers, would be the Bitmain L3, IMHO.

Not looking at all great. FML

[Albortz]

Fuck my life right...

If we dont stop soon, my L3+ is in the reds not even 12 months after buying lol

Cant imagine how D3 owners must feel right now

[Searing]

Fuck my life right...

If we dont stop soon, my L3+ is in the reds not even 12 months after buying lol

Cant imagine how D3 owners must feel right now

have 2 d3's did not do well (at 10c kwh over winter)

on the other hand had an x11 baikal 300mh from last may...so when people ask I say I broke even with electric on x11 mining

(really it was that 300mh cube...but hey it is true...broke even with ALL x11 miners)

it is all about protecting ego....

AS to the L3+ sale....with coupons..and with equip depreciation and more or less paying anyway 50% to IRS on mining etc

I need a bit less than 250 usd after electric to break even on 6...that is $250 each after electric to be clear on these...had some alts that if it all goes to crap won't matter anyway

so did it as a hedge in case

thus price sideways...big whoop I sell LISK for equip and mine LTC and it is a wash..oranges to oranges

if it dumps...won't matter any of the hedge above

if it goes up I look like a genius (that sure an't looking likely....I'm praying now for just plain old sideways price now...)

saw this movie before in 2015 it sucked...

anyway...chump or champ....it is always one or the other with crypto drama!

[Searing]

ah...the difference a few days make...

This is at $115 LTC and 12c kWh electric at my end (starting April 1st)

using www.litecoinpool.org/calc

L3 250mh 400watts @ 12c kWh.

$1.13 per day

24 hours   0.01984948 LTC   2.28 USD   1.15 USD   1.13 USD
7 days   0.13894638 LTC   15.98 USD   8.06 USD   7.91 USD
30 days   0.59548447 LTC   68.48 USD   34.56 USD   33.92 USD

L3+ 500mh 800watts @ 12c kWh.

$2.26 per day

24 hours   0.03969896 LTC   4.57 USD   2.30 USD   2.26 USD
7 days   0.27789275 LTC   31.96 USD   16.13 USD   15.83 USD
30 days   1.19096895 LTC   136.96 USD   69.12 USD   67.84 USD

KNC 300mh  1250 watts @ 12c kWh.

-$0.86 per day

24 hours   0.02381938 LTC   2.74 USD   3.60 USD   -0.86 USD
7 days   0.16673565 LTC   19.17 USD   25.20 USD   -6.03 USD
30 days   0.71458137 LTC   82.18 USD   108.00 USD   -25.82 USD

At this rate, the NEXT unit to fall of the network in any LARGE numbers, would be the Bitmain L3, IMHO.

Not looking at all great. FML

Just an update ..the above was 3/30/18...so today is 4/2/18 and compare...now that Bitmain units are hitting the world in MASS ...

Using this calculator (same as above quote) at www.litecoinpool.org/calc


Bitmain L3 makes $1.07 per day!

Bitmain L3 at 250mh and 400w and 12c kWh and the price of LTC at $117 even.

24 hours   0.01897900 LTC   2.22 USD   1.15 USD   1.07 USD
7 days   0.13285302 LTC   15.54 USD   8.06 USD   7.48 USD
30 days   0.56937008 LTC   66.62 USD   34.56 USD   32.06 USD

Bitmain L3_ makes $2.14 per day!

Bitmain L3+ at 500mh and 800w and 12c kWh and price of LTC at $117 even.

24 hours   0.03795801 LTC   4.44 USD   2.30 USD   2.14 USD
7 days   0.26570604 LTC   31.09 USD   16.13 USD   14.96 USD
30 days   1.13874016 LTC   133.23 USD   69.12 USD   64.11 USD

KNC Titan 300mh makes (negative) -$0.94c per day!

KNC Titan 300mh at 1250w and 12c kWh and the price of LTC at $117 even.

24 hours   0.02277480 LTC   2.66 USD   3.60 USD   -0.94 USD
7 days   0.15942362 LTC   18.65 USD   25.20 USD   -6.55 USD
30 days   0.68324410 LTC   79.94 USD   108.00 USD   -28.06 USD

Anyway, as you can see from above....it is NOT too bad yet..but we need a much bigger price pump for this to work.

(Insane, price pump for KNC Titan to work)

Also as I look at the current difficulty (see link below) for LTC that I guess we could be in worse trouble

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/litecoin/difficulty

Anyway, how the works is a riding at this date in time.

[madmartyk]

Something tells me I should be happy I let my order expire.

[Searing]

Something tells me I should be happy I let my order expire.

with my tax and equip deduction issues...etc (previous posts) and coupons per unit

I simply need to get a bit less than $250 usd at 10c kWh per UNIT ...over electric (6 L3+ units ordered last week arriving this week) (yea! 2c reduction on data hall electric)
...a modest win...

so currently at (LTC is pumping) of $122 for LTC the price below for a L3+ (deduct 1/2 for those following on this L3 thread) it comes out to below:

Using again www.litecoinpool.org/calc


L3 at 250mh at 400w at 10c per kWh and $122 LTC

24 hours   0.01897900 LTC   2.32 USD   0.96 USD   1.36 USD
7 days   0.13285302 LTC   16.21 USD   6.72 USD   9.49 USD
30 days   0.56937008 LTC   69.46 USD   28.80 USD   40.66 USD



L3+ (6 I ordered last week) at 500mh at 800w at 10c kWh and $122 LTC

24 hours   0.03795801 LTC   4.63 USD   1.92 USD   2.71 USD
7 days   0.26570604 LTC   32.42 USD   13.44 USD   18.98 USD
30 days   1.13874016 LTC   138.93 USD   57.60 USD   81.33 USD


So my SIX units I need to make for the L3+ (or 1/2 for an L3 to be on topic here) MIGHT be do'able to break even in say....what?

5 months with say the difficulty rise for LTC and perhaps IF LTC went to $150 per LTC to also help, I MIGHT make enough to break even?

Again, dumping 'dubious' alts for this equipment...so again my odds are:

1) sideways on alts or some hedge for this equip before maybe alts dump..thus sideways...no issues its a wash alts=6 bitmain units (hedge)

2) price dumps (above don't matter ..doomed on both the alts spent (if kept) and the miners got with the then 'dubious alts' where prices would have dumped to. Welcome to FML mode.

3) the price pumps on BTC and LTC and I look like a 'genius' getting equipment

again, not a good sign, most praying is going towards sideways now...(yea verily me of little faith)

(how far I've fallen since Dec 2017...now I root for 'ho-hum' vs 'moon' ....alas my ego is crushed)


but anyway, likely a good move on your part 'letting units expire' myself...still have a shot at oranges for oranges! (yech....)

[Searing]

Additional (now 3/3/18) or What a difference a day makes...(slowly it is coming back...LTC price)

L3 price per day $1.53 now!  @ 1250 watts and 10c kWh and at $133.50 LTC

24 hours   0.01866718 LTC   2.49 USD   0.96 USD   1.53 USD
7 days   0.13067024 LTC   17.44 USD   6.72 USD   10.72 USD
30 days   0.56001533 LTC   74.76 USD   28.80 USD   45.96 USD

L3+ price per day now! @ $3.06  @ 1250 watts and 10c kWh and at $133.50 LTC

24 hours   0.03733436 LTC   4.98 USD   1.92 USD   3.06 USD
7 days   0.26134049 LTC   34.89 USD   13.44 USD   21.45 USD
30 days   1.12003066 LTC   149.52 USD   57.60 USD   91.92 USD

KNC Titan 300mh is at -$.01c per day @ 1250 watts and 10c kWh and at $133.50 LTC

24 hours   0.02240061 LTC   2.99 USD   3.00 USD   -0.01 USD
7 days   0.15680429 LTC   20.93 USD   21.00 USD   -0.07 USD
30 days   0.67201840 LTC   89.71 USD   90.00 USD   -0.29 USD


So we still need much more to compete against the difficulty rise below:

Apr 03 2018    6,802,626    1.67%    194,780 GH/s

But a lot of Bitmain L3+'s have yet to hit but all this is MUCH more encouraging than yesterday!

[wheelz1200]

Fuck my life right...

If we dont stop soon, my L3+ is in the reds not even 12 months after buying lol

Cant imagine how D3 owners must feel right now

Thats not bad actually haha, asics are eventual doorstops and technology speeds faster and faster.  Its not if they will be obsolete its only when.

[Searing]

Fuck my life right...

If we dont stop soon, my L3+ is in the reds not even 12 months after buying lol

Cant imagine how D3 owners must feel right now

Thats not bad actually haha, asics are eventual doorstops and technology speeds faster and faster.  Its not if they will be obsolete its only when.

always keep the 'box' they work better as doorstops if you leave them in the cardboard box....(they slide easier)

(hey...don't throw stuff at me in bitcointalk!)

[madmartyk]

Anyone have 4 $200 coupons they would like to get rid off?  Can't use the $300 ones on the L3++s

[tw0rak]

Anyone have 4 $200 coupons they would like to get rid off?  Can't use the $300 ones on the L3++s

Yes. $50 for each.

[madmartyk]

Anyone have 4 $200 coupons they would like to get rid off?  Can't use the $300 ones on the L3++s

Yes. $50 for each.

I paid that for a $400 coupon. 

[tw0rak]

Anyone have 4 $200 coupons they would like to get rid off?  Can't use the $300 ones on the L3++s

Yes. $50 for each.

I paid that for a $400 coupon. 

Well OK, no problem for me.
200usd are now interesting coupons cos higher are not usable for L3

[madmartyk]

Anyone have 4 $200 coupons they would like to get rid off?  Can't use the $300 ones on the L3++s

Yes. $50 for each.

I paid that for a $400 coupon.  

Well OK, no problem for me.
200usd are now interesting coupons cos higher are not usable for L3

I don't know for sure the $200 ones work.  I know the $125s do, but don't have any $200s to try with.  I know $300s don't work.