[CLOSED] Avalon ASIC chip distribution

[niner]

myself - i want the batch 3 delivered - since i've already paid for burnin assembly, and i'm loosing 50% of the money if this batch will be refunded.
also i have some small orders in other batches - those can be refunded if the delivery will take too long.

Zefir, btw can you ask Yifu what is the real situation about the chips that you've ordered - does he have them ready or not?

Burnin is still committed to assembling boards for those who do not ask for a refund.
Refunds are "on request" not "all or none", right?

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[madmax_ger]

Would it be possible to get a new estimate from Avalon as to when the batches might be delivered?
Are we looking at 9 to 10 more weeks or are we looking at days?
Thanks!
 

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[2weiX]

FYI

I don't want a refund at this stage. I already ordered and paid for the assembly. I rather have my hardware and hash or sell it, instead of getting a refund from yifu which will likely take ages. I don't want next-gen chips from yifu, because I saw the lack of skills, trust and anything else on yifu's side. Best would be partial refund/compensation I think. Getting my btc back simply doesnt do it anymore at this stage for me.

I would:
ask for the chips asap and demand a compensation. If no compensation or chips - sue his ass!

#2


gimme the chips plus a 33% refund, you cheecky bastard.

[Ente]

FYI

I don't want a refund at this stage. I already ordered and paid for the assembly. I rather have my hardware and hash or sell it, instead of getting a refund from yifu which will likely take ages. I don't want next-gen chips from yifu, because I saw the lack of skills, trust and anything else on yifu's side. Best would be partial refund/compensation I think. Getting my btc back simply doesnt do it anymore at this stage for me.

I would:
ask for the chips asap and demand a compensation. If no compensation or chips - sue his ass!

#2


gimme the chips plus a 33% refund, you cheecky bastard.

Nope. Yifu wrote he'll refund the chips in full and later offers the chips at a discount.
In your case, that may translate to "75% refund now, receive chips in 2 months 2 weeks™"

Ente

[niner]

myself - i want the batch 3 delivered - since i've already paid for burnin assembly, and i'm loosing 50% of the money if this batch will be refunded.
also i have some small orders in other batches - those can be refunded if the delivery will take too long.

Zefir, btw can you ask Yifu what is the real situation about the chips that you've ordered - does he have them ready or not?

I have 2 orders (w/Burnin) for sale.  One of which includes Zefir Batch 2 chips.
See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=284193.msg3041059

[HeRetiK]

Those demanding their chips plus some compensation for the delay should follow the proposed approach: get a refund now and order chips later when they are in stock and cheaper.

@Zefir: I assume ordering chips later again, once they are in stock and cheaper, would involve yet another group buy? Also if that's the case would you be going through all the group buy hassle again or are you done with it?

[Ente]

Those demanding their chips plus some compensation for the delay should follow the proposed approach: get a refund now and order chips later when they are in stock and cheaper.

@Zefir: I assume ordering chips later again, once they are in stock and cheaper, would involve yet another group buy? Also if that's the case would you be going through all the group buy hassle again or are you done with it?

I would avoid asking those questions just now.
At least I would strictly avoid it when face-to-face ;-)

Ente

[2weiX]

FYI

I don't want a refund at this stage. I already ordered and paid for the assembly. I rather have my hardware and hash or sell it, instead of getting a refund from yifu which will likely take ages. I don't want next-gen chips from yifu, because I saw the lack of skills, trust and anything else on yifu's side. Best would be partial refund/compensation I think. Getting my btc back simply doesnt do it anymore at this stage for me.

I would:
ask for the chips asap and demand a compensation. If no compensation or chips - sue his ass!

#2


gimme the chips plus a 33% refund, you cheecky bastard.

Nope. Yifu wrote he'll refund the chips in full and later offers the chips at a discount.
In your case, that may translate to "75% refund now, receive chips in 2 months 2 weeks™"

Ente

I already threw 3000€ a burnin.
I just want to be reimbursed to the point that running the miners might make SOME sense a year into it.

[zefir]

Notification: Chips delivered with B1 and B2

Sorry folks, this is overdue, but due to the recent happenings I found no time to prepare the data in time. This is the list of chips that has been distributed from batches 1 and 2:

Code:

Batch	Chips	Address					Destination
1	1760	13BQocSpK6Ny8xubRGSXvdw5r4aTVBkrNp	marto74
1	240	13BQocSpK6Ny8xubRGSXvdw5r4aTVBkrNp	strombom
1	100	15BEMHdT27kP2K6Yca2rEGwChRuzuHub8s	own
1	10	1G88KbjZi39ZA3BMXDwfmzidVDf2y2BKSp	burnin
1	10	1Pv44QYXwC3FMiNZgXcpZRKyuXXueyVRrd	burnin
1	390	1DDBpNCBHARLzk8wDpB3oHozm5aovxeCk6	own
1	10	1JwSSubhmg6iPtRjtyqhUYYH7bZg3Lfy1T	burnin
1	12	1MarbLezGShArudGnm7o1Z7K9iQQ9CdKU4	own
1	10	14o3Xk5cbDMnYeBRW6pVgMuMJfC2gEhFpr	burnin
1	320	1B8HcvE1Ag2eUR5fJZU29r7wgV9A7Rn91U	strombom
1	280	1B8HcvE1Ag2eUR5fJZU29r7wgV9A7Rn91U	ryepdx
1	40	13p3UtJyfHYDA6L4MAHmnHYGQ3qKs2Dc5T	burnin
1	20	1EFrzG2hfUdhAzAHiFgZ3DEg6wHa7JFEg9	own
1	30	1QHyDiUvu1GpmNQfYAJpw67XSuEZfDNgeC	burnin
1	10	1E26zhEHQq1AgkjnxchuRs1stwVH9X8Gni	own
1	8	1MarbLezGShArudGnm7o1Z7K9iQQ9CdKU4	own
1	50	13FdjGU6P6q6ypqWVQ2fJpF93ikTKTH2yS	burnin
1	70	16LtRGhh6wV65rntyvYPvnUNT3Lgv7xhDH	ryepdx
1	50	1JVfngaFgaqa3BqBeP7ftFdPwr2sD514y3	strombom
1	100	16cdEgS1LfoAXC1uJhVaoSsYaDeoT2oDyo	own
1	500	15AkZM1u2jXhetHEKLnQ5ScM6bvjGePYHd	burnin
1	100	1JLzgdt3JhnSxQEgWv8Zd828M2eawGRuZA	own
1	10	1LfDCbF7A1eegFymzCwYiWXuYsgPtgX8SL	burnin
1	10	1ND1i4rcY7RJkJv9JvpizY51RjUYnhpJVQ	burnin
1	50	1P7NGKHZBtpcUbqfRa4WX4fQnVNM7rRoyX	own
1	110	1GhNkFnaXgcEBuJwgJhXHLjXZJrqLNFKbV	burnin
1	30	1KqaXegcLn72rMYAerZLq3PiHz7WScjXvM	burnin
1	500	1Kfsuv5xnVZHjkw7jdFyhAMWdRzoRQH8ks	own
1	100	12HMTWSXTX9aQCBU6kRAZU5MwgNmGr8HjS	burnin
1	20	1Pv44QYXwC3FMiNZgXcpZRKyuXXueyVRrd	burnin
1	50	1JPtkDdgbbNxJgWjYtwMfWsLhAHdWR6TeQ	burnin
1	200	15BEMHdT27kP2K6Yca2rEGwChRuzuHub8s	own
1	10	1LnYQiE7Zt2o1AydhDXTSvoqys8BSJQKNC	own
1	200	1pDimB6dXL5Cbqs1XDY8onkFj9deHmn7h	burnin
1	50	1LFuHESA9K2AY9Ncpy3wGMpaB6zpTF8U78	own
1	100	16xaGH9D2AwG7yooFeo8qDXvgtPDRRfkDh	burnin
1	60	12DNdacCtUZ99qcP74FwchaCPzeDL9Voff	marto74
1	10	1LFuHESA9K2AY9Ncpy3wGMpaB6zpTF8U78	own
1	100	1Kfsuv5xnVZHjkw7jdFyhAMWdRzoRQH8ks	own
1	120	16xaGH9D2AwG7yooFeo8qDXvgtPDRRfkDh	burnin
1	10	17bytFkbVfpr4re3t8RdJgzLVm6XPtZLXo	own
1	100	1pDstJv8t2MNm8ipTwg68P1u8nEYxP9tk	own
1	30	1LFuHESA9K2AY9Ncpy3wGMpaB6zpTF8U78	own
2	380	1Bgu2w4vBTXDDkpWkjAeomVnRRYASnCaJV	burnin
2	10	14aDJ3ciTmMpkW3etG6bNMN1oQQLhJmPMt	burnin
2	700	19mhMrsLVg6dnaskWWoyY92GuSFBk6mvqQ	burnin
2	400	1JbxcwwAy3ozAriSQ1Vexhz7AH6a6kNrpX	burnin
2	120	1F7aPwhDyAJ8qFeLhVywg6pL1Wr7BpnCJb	burnin
2	300	1JRp6vWi4dMUbaiSGxnnZ1Lo31mEnXK9Yo	burnin
2	10	13r3a2wPR2ZiQbmN9XiQjcKWutnike6H6f	burnin
2	500	17zBXRqsibwYriEALvmVgaKizhvXrGLPJA	strombom
2	10	14ueYQdkjAoFhrfQumZEwzQ3Zg6fALraM8	burnin
2	80	16Mszwah7Czzgs1ULEuj5ZUfWvkYbMgZG6	burnin
2	10	1PVPGVQGfT8xiUYTNFkBxH7yRBQdUtNrvX	own
2	100	1EcMQxq7XBGsim5BpGune56wZpthcEFQN9	burnin
2	700	1MSoqSFoyaPfpm8UiH1KRzWYx3ECcdWCPu	burnin
2	10	198S1UfpVvLXJoLWYBJNsZnVQoyHFv5jku	burnin
2	650	12knpx2FZaG22k1KCwhMviNZfTwYDjPCeg	burnin
2	500	1Y7nz26nC4nrWADcj3jZSVSsH7KRZTsKZ	burnin
2	30	19n18f4D1cSRHJH5cMVxBV5LobmJk64hqX	burnin
2	320	15Y5NPeCU2zSmrwscBnSi8uybhVEqpE7bi	strombom
2	100	16xaGH9D2AwG7yooFeo8qDXvgtPDRRfkDh	burnin
2	360	16q2XVdzjaKbiBVwzMaaHqsG1iGN3FHaFV	Terrahash
2	30	1FhKGnAtr6s8gbj7HmzA4H7mytSCQUfvo4	burnin
2	50	15xGnu9mqDuU6JXv5zfcDTTnKdLD8sdmvZ	own
2	1000	13nS35LWaCbwgKd6kLitdxdLJfEs21p6s8	burnin

Those chips are in production now and obviously can't be refunded any more.


Did not her back from Avalon about clarifications for refunds, ETA, or price discount estimates. Will post as soon as I know more.

[SebastianJu]

Did not her back from Avalon about clarifications for refunds, ETA, or price discount estimates. Will post as soon as I know more.

I believe Yifu stated he wants to prepare a refund form after he spoke about chip batches. So i think thats what he does now.

[-Redacted-]

Did not her back from Avalon about clarifications for refunds, ETA, or price discount estimates. Will post as soon as I know more.

I believe Yifu stated he wants to prepare a refund form after he spoke about chip batches. So i think thats what he does now.

And preparing the form will take how many weeks?  This is work that should take minutes and it has already been several days...

[Bitcoinorama]

Did not her back from Avalon about clarifications for refunds, ETA, or price discount estimates. Will post as soon as I know more.

I believe Yifu stated he wants to prepare a refund form after he spoke about chip batches. So i think thats what he does now.

And preparing the form will take how many weeks?  This is work that should take minutes and it has already been several days...

His exact words were; 'straight away'.

[jspielberg]

Maybe he has finished it, but there was a bug in the form which prevents it from working.  In a few months someone will somehow get in touch with him and he will fix it an apologize.... nah... that would never happen.

[lenny_]

I vote for:
"b) compensation in BTC: deliver chips, compensate XX% of the initial price"
I have chips with batch #3. Please push Bitsyncom with refund, they need to do it.

[HeRetiK]

I vote for:
"b) compensation in BTC: deliver chips, compensate XX% of the initial price"
I have chips with batch #3. Please push Bitsyncom with refund, they need to do it.

see here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177827.msg3038356#msg3038356

[pazor]

i pay for the chips -> i pay for the miner assembly -> so i want the chips + compensation

[kernel_panic]

I vote for full and immediate refund.

[rage1337]

Update:

Chips Delivery Update, September Edition

Due to events outside of our control, the delivery of chips have been delayed so far. While the situation are improving and chips are shipping, we have ultimately decided to revert our policy on no refunds and offer the option for customers to request a full refund(in bitcoin) if so desired.

The link to the request form is below, please note this only applies to orders made earlier than June 1st.

In other news, for those who decided to wait or wish to know more about delivery schedule will be glad to note we are receiving a batch of 400,000+ chips on Wednesday, with that we expect to be in good shape for meeting the upcoming deadlines of chip deliveries for orders made in June and later.

In addition, we hope to wrap up generation one, finish shipping the chips, construct the modules and build the 2 module Avalon mini, put this pre-order mess behind us in general and switch gear into 55nm production, tape out generation 3, and start work on improving chip design for generation 4. Only sell what we can produce in a day on the assembly line, and only what's in stock.

Refund

[CMMPro]

Seems fair....they broke their policy on "no bs" so I would guess they can also break their policy on "no refunds".

[f.baasch75]

Update:

Chips Delivery Update, September Edition

Due to events outside of our control, the delivery of chips have been delayed so far. While the situation are improving and chips are shipping, we have ultimately decided to revert our policy on no refunds and offer the option for customers to request a full refund(in bitcoin) if so desired.

The link to the request form is below, please note this only applies to orders made earlier than June 1st.

In other news, for those who decided to wait or wish to know more about delivery schedule will be glad to note we are receiving a batch of 400,000+ chips on Wednesday, with that we expect to be in good shape for meeting the upcoming deadlines of chip deliveries for orders made in June and later.

In addition, we hope to wrap up generation one, finish shipping the chips, construct the modules and build the 2 module Avalon mini, put this pre-order mess behind us in general and switch gear into 55nm production, tape out generation 3, and start work on improving chip design for generation 4. Only sell what we can produce in a day on the assembly line, and only what's in stock.

Refund

I don't think I understand this, there are 400000 chips coming, but NOT for orders from April but for orders made in June or later?