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April 21, 2014, 04:33:26 PM


OKCoin instead created a "recharge code"system, that, as I understand, allows a client A (a "broker") to transfer CNY from his OKCoin internal account to that of another client B.  For that, B has to negotiate with A and pay him in CNY outside the OKCoin system and their bank account.  A couple of days ago, it seems that they had only one such broker and he set a minimum of 10,000 CNY per transfer.


As I understand, recharge code system is still a kind of third party system, but pboc does not allow "third party" to connect exchanges. If pboc wishes, he can stop recharge code system at any time, obviously.

But pboc will probably not ban recharge code system.  Why? I read pboc as follows.

Pboc has little interest in bitcoin/exchanges. If bitcoin is blocked from commerce, everything is ok for them. Their full attention has been on the "third party payment processor" and "internet P2P loans", who are eating bank's cake, quickly and greatly.

The so called No. 10 Notice from PBOC( reported by media on Sat.) tells that pboc's current major aim is on third party payment processors, not bitcoin. To limit the daily and per transaction volume, to double authenticate clients accounts, to share full transaction information with banks, all these steps are aiming to weaken payment processors.

These payment processors are already very strong and play important role in Chinese commerce. Further, some strong ones  like Alipay  also have supports from political powers. This is a great challenge and headache for pboc.

Bitcoin and the exchanges are peanuts. Pboc has little interest and  not much time to consider that it could become more competitive than payment processors. But bitcoin is in the category of " Internet finance" ( same as payment processor), pboc's policy towards bitcoin/exchanges is included in the polices towards payment processors.

So, we need to follow pboc's movements towards payment processors, not bitcoin itself.  PBoc can not ban payment processors, can not block them prom commerce, the only thing they are trying hard to do is to weaken them. Difficult but have to though.

Coming to bitcoin, PBOC is much more tougher, as they can do so while they can not with payment processors. It doesn't mean they have more interest. They have banned bitcoin from commerce, they have banned bitcoin from banks, they have banned bitcoin from third party payment processors. What else they have not banned?

Yes, They have not banned bitcoin from recharge code system, which is also a kind of third party payment. BUT remember, such third party payment is different from which pboc aims at  - strong payment processor like Alipay.

I predict boldly if I may, bad news from China has come to an end, though good news should not be expected in anyway, in any foreseen future.
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April 21, 2014, 04:37:20 PM

Huobi has a dip and everybody follows like lovesick puppies. Everybody is still following China and I don't see a sustainable reversal until that is no longer the case. The Chinese are broke and they just don't know it yet. Their banking system is a mess.
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And vampires, of course. and gypsies. Sexiest girl I ever met online was a German speaking chick from Romania.

BillyJoe, sind Sie das? Ich bin so froh, dass Sie unsere Gespräche genossen!
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And vampires, of course. and gypsies. Sexiest girl I ever met online was a German speaking chick from Romania.

BillyJoe, sind Sie das? Ich bin so froh, dass Sie unsere Gespräche genossen!

I've known her for years, Dude. Gimme a little credit.
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And vampires, of course. and gypsies. Sexiest girl I ever met online was a German speaking chick from Romania.

BillyJoe, sind Sie das? Ich bin so froh, dass Sie unsere Gespräche genossen!

I've known her for years, Dude. Gimme a little credit.

..Bilder oder nicht passiert.

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..Bilder oder nicht passiert.

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April 21, 2014, 05:20:38 PM

we have a little bit of buying to do today to get us back to the $500 levels..
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April 21, 2014, 05:40:47 PM

The problem ist to prove that you have the coins more than a year. Thats what people in germany discuss in other boards.

It's not a problem. There are different ways to do this (without using the blockchain) that work well enough in many cases.



I might have to move to Germany at some point (free travel within the EU anyway) but I'm not sure when the one year will commence then. From when I bought it or from when I moved country?

I'm pretty sure the time you bought it. It doesn't matter where you sell it (or against which currency) either. The gains from my selling BTC on gox back in the days for USD, for example, also counted. I think (except for US citizens), individuals usually pay their income tax in the country they live in, no matter where in the world the income happened. But I'm not entirely sure on that stuff, maybe someone else can chip in?
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The globe in economic crisis. Revolutionary programmable money on the rise. Full planes disappearing without a trace. Landslides. Ukraine on the verge of war. Tsunamis. Somali pirates taking ships. Legalization of pot in U.S.

Top stories on CNN?
"American wins American foot race"
"Teen stowaway in landing gear"
"Royals visit zoo"
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..Bilder oder nicht passiert.

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April 21, 2014, 05:53:20 PM

The globe in economic crisis. Revolutionary programmable money on the rise. Full planes disappearing without a trace. Landslides. Ukraine on the verge of war. Tsunamis. Somali pirates taking ships. Legalization of pot in U.S.

Top stories on CNN?
"American wins American foot race"
"Royals visit zoo"

The problems isn't that Americans don't care about the world. The problem is that TV news is for idiots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee_uujKuJMI
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The globe in economic crisis. Revolutionary programmable money on the rise. Full planes disappearing without a trace. Landslides. Ukraine on the verge of war. Tsunamis. Somali pirates taking ships. Legalization of pot in U.S.

Top stories on CNN?
"American wins American foot race"
"Royals visit zoo"

The problems isn't that Americans don't care about the world. The problem is that TV news is for idiots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee_uujKuJMI

Love me some Green Day but I am concerned their video is bearish for Bitcoin. Their speakers form a wall which gush a green liquid in a downward motion. This can only symbolize one thing: a green USD wall which pushes BTC price down. I'm selling all BTC immediately if not sooner.
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April 21, 2014, 06:44:05 PM

we have a little bit of buying to do today to get us back to the $500 levels..

Why bother. Someone will dump to make sure we go down again. It happened like 5 times now. You'd be crazy to buy at this point.
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April 21, 2014, 07:35:06 PM

we have a little bit of buying to do today to get us back to the $500 levels..

Why bother. Someone will dump to make sure we go down again. It happened like 5 times now. You'd be crazy to buy at this point.

Crazy to buy at $500?  Many people bought higher than this.  I bought some higher than this.  I think it is crazy not to buy when considering where Bitcoin will be later this year or even this month!  Also, there have been times where it seems like Bitcoin is going nowhere then shoots up to a new ATH within just a few weeks. 
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April 21, 2014, 07:45:55 PM

we have a little bit of buying to do today to get us back to the $500 levels..

Why bother. Someone will dump to make sure we go down again. It happened like 5 times now. You'd be crazy to buy at this point.

Crazy to buy at $500?  Many people bought higher than this.  I bought some higher than this.  I think it is crazy not to buy when considering where Bitcoin will be later this year or even this month!  Also, there have been times where it seems like Bitcoin is going nowhere then shoots up to a new ATH within just a few weeks. 

Calm down. I'm talking about this specific moment. As soon as we go up either someone starts dumping or Chinese fud appears. I would wait this out if i was a trader or i guess a long term buyer. We can easily go to 450 or lower again. If we break 520ish without someone stopping it i'd say it's buying time.
The current situation is pure manipulation by a small group of people if you'd ask me.
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April 21, 2014, 07:55:54 PM

we have a little bit of buying to do today to get us back to the $500 levels..

Why bother. Someone will dump to make sure we go down again. It happened like 5 times now. You'd be crazy to buy at this point.

Crazy to buy at $500?  Many people bought higher than this.  I bought some higher than this.  I think it is crazy not to buy when considering where Bitcoin will be later this year or even this month!  Also, there have been times where it seems like Bitcoin is going nowhere then shoots up to a new ATH within just a few weeks. 

Calm down. I'm talking about this specific moment. As soon as we go up either someone starts dumping or Chinese fud appears. I would wait this out if i was a trader or i guess a long term buyer. We can easily go to 450 or lower again. If we break 520ish without someone stopping it i'd say it's buying time.
The current situation is pure manipulation by a small group of people if you'd ask me.

I am guessing that group is getting tapped out pretty soon. This has been going on for 2 weeks. I'm sure those idiots will be out of coins soon enough.
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April 21, 2014, 07:57:59 PM

we have a little bit of buying to do today to get us back to the $500 levels..

Why bother. Someone will dump to make sure we go down again. It happened like 5 times now. You'd be crazy to buy at this point.

Crazy to buy at $500?  Many people bought higher than this.  I bought some higher than this.  I think it is crazy not to buy when considering where Bitcoin will be later this year or even this month!  Also, there have been times where it seems like Bitcoin is going nowhere then shoots up to a new ATH within just a few weeks. 

Calm down. I'm talking about this specific moment. As soon as we go up either someone starts dumping or Chinese fud appears. I would wait this out if i was a trader or i guess a long term buyer. We can easily go to 450 or lower again. If we break 520ish without someone stopping it i'd say it's buying time.
The current situation is pure manipulation by a small group of people if you'd ask me.

I am guessing that group is getting tapped out pretty soon. This has been going on for 2 weeks. I'm sure those idiots will be out of coins soon enough.

Not if they keep buying back the cheaper coins Wink
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