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[BitPirate]

... at least we're still able to make money from weak hands.   

[micalith]

The fact that the dumper picked the slowest time of the week for bitcoin, screams manipulation.  All the bulls that want to hold up the price, but are still looking for cheap coins, aren't around right now, which is why the slow rebound.

The weekend dip is back, meaning manipulation is overpowering users/speculators.

So you reckon there will be a rally/rebound when the US wakes up? I'm increasingly pessimistic about worthwhile rebounds happening. It's my impression that since the consensus has become more overwhelming that it will drop allot farther, rebounds are getting smaller, even when the US is awake.

I don't know about a rebound. This seems like self fulfilling prophecy to me. I almost sold last week, just some of mine, but decided just to hold and buy more if we dip down to the 50 range. That, to me, is the absolute bottom, but anything can happen with Bitcoin. Good news can come out on the fall down (e.g. - pay pal becomes a BTC exchange) and we continue the ascent upwards. Not saying that will happen though!

It is kind of a weird realization, that you only "lose" when you sell. I have a loose plan to accrue so many coins and I could have been there had I traded in and out, but I didn't want to risk missing a move. Well, it will cost me more in the end, yes, but if I still end up with what I want (a very very small amount btw), what is the difference? (I guess I will have less money for vacation.     )

Anyway, I think as the infrastructure is built for BTC, we will see transparent adoption AND "hoarding" as a savings account of sorts. We already saw some of the second and once that first part starts happening as well, then that is the acceptance part that we need, as hey, we are right now an internet thing.

Oh well. I bought at 93 and sold around bitstamp's rebound top of 95.2, and am now kicking myself

[Its About Sharing]

Congratulations on being what you are. It does feel good, doesn't it?  

It feels great, when logic and rational thinking trump, the ideological ignorance, that dominates this forum.  It feels great to shove it in your face and everyone on this board who's had something stupid to say, repeating the same BS, that defied common sense and reason.  I relish this moment.  Will any of you wake up and accept you're living in a dream world of delusions?  Probably not.  But at least you and I know...man to man...your ideology and your rhetoric is crap.

My job is done here.

What about heart? I guess if you are just in it for the money, you don't care about that. I put heart first, which is why I honesty tried giving you the benefit of the doubt. And what did you do? You accused me of being what you are and then attacked me when I asked a question...

You don't even reply to what I asked you about XRP, you just attacked me. You just again didn't reply to my points, you just attacked me.
You are trying to win these "war of words" on the forum and all the while are missing the bigger picture.
I'm not here to win arguments, not even really to make money, but to be a part of something special.
I can see that is the farthest thing from you mind, along with heart.  

[MoreFun]

The fact that the dumper picked the slowest time of the week for bitcoin, screams manipulation.  All the bulls that want to hold up the price, but are still looking for cheap coins, aren't around right now, which is why the slow rebound.

The weekend dip is back, meaning manipulation is overpowering users/speculators.

So you reckon there will be a rally/rebound when the US wakes up? I'm increasingly pessimistic about worthwhile rebounds happening. It's my impression that since the consensus has become more overwhelming that it will drop allot farther, rebounds are getting smaller, even when the US is awake.

I don't know about a rebound. This seems like self fulfilling prophecy to me. I almost sold last week, just some of mine, but decided just to hold and buy more if we dip down to the 50 range. That, to me, is the absolute bottom, but anything can happen with Bitcoin. Good news can come out on the fall down (e.g. - pay pal becomes a BTC exchange) and we continue the ascent upwards. Not saying that will happen though!

It is kind of a weird realization, that you only "lose" when you sell. I have a loose plan to accrue so many coins and I could have been there had I traded in and out, but I didn't want to risk missing a move. Well, it will cost me more in the end, yes, but if I still end up with what I want (a very very small amount btw), what is the difference? (I guess I will have less money for vacation.     )

Anyway, I think as the infrastructure is built for BTC, we will see transparent adoption AND "hoarding" as a savings account of sorts. We already saw some of the second and once that first part starts happening as well, then that is the acceptance part that we need, as hey, we are right now an internet thing.

Oh well. I bought at 93 and sold around bitstamp's rebound top of 95.2, and am now kicking myself

It is difficult to predict tops and bottoms so you might feel happy in few minutes. Should remove feelings from trading.

[Coinseeker]

At the end of the day there are those of us who are invested in Bitcoin -- not only in terms of money, but also time and effort. Then there are people along for the free ride. But the sort with no hope are people like coinseeker, who really just seem to be here to troll. He must value his time the least of any of us.

Ride's not free, successful speculating/investing over the long term takes hard work, time and discipline. And most importantly, balls.

Amen!  Couldn't have said it better.

[Its About Sharing]

I see a couple smart ones are dumping BTC for XRP while they can.  Markets havent had a chance to react.   This night just keeps getting better.  

EDIT:  Bitpirate, don't cry.  It's embarrassing.    Take it like a man.  

Uh oh, the alter ego is back! LOL
How can you seriously even mention BTC with a float of 11 million being traded into XRP with a float of how many billions? And on is owned by us the people, and the other by a company mostly. Seriously, that is crazy.
The only way I could imagine that being remotely possible is if someone didn't want to pay capital gains and put it into XRP to hold and then roll back into BTC. But that would be taking a HUGE chance.

The fact you even have the gall to talk to me after witnessing my guarantee unfold in your face, shows your delusions run far deeper than your intellect.  Did you think I forgot?  Did you think your buddy, buddy routine was not transparent as glass, as the inevitable was on the horizon?  You have no credibility left.  This is the remaining fig leave that clears up, I am mostly right and you are mostly wrong.  Please stop trying to educate people.  You're hurting humanity.

Well, I guess it goes to show you where you heart is. I honestly was trying to be open to you - I don't hold grudges. I was keeping an eye on you yes, as I didn't trust you due to how you talk to people. Which, you are once again showing right now. I don't get that form of communication. The world doesn't need "I told you so" people, it needs people from the heart.

You think this is about "I'm right" to me? IF there is one thing you should have noticed about me, is that I'm not in it for the money (foremost), I'm in it cause I believe in Bitcoin. That is why you can't talk about "in your face" with me. It is all a reflection of how you see me, not how I see you. It is a reflection of how you see others on the forum. You have been guaranteeing down, almost non stop except for the alter ego 3 week or so period lately, so please, stop with the self aggrandizement.

So, in the future if and when bitcoin is at a high valuation, perhaps you will be rich from trading in and out. Congratulations to you in advance. You go and buy yourself what you desire, I will use a large part of my profits to roll back into things that help mankind and not just "things" for me. I'd still help you out if I could as I don't hold grudges, but I now I (we here) see we just can't trust you to be a human being and that is not being strong worded, that is being observational.

Congratulations on being what you are. It does feel good, doesn't it?  



Lots of love...

At the end of the day there are those of us who are invested in Bitcoin -- not only in terms of money, but also time and effort. Then there are people along for the free ride. But the sort with no hope are people like coinseeker, who really just seem to be here to troll. He must value his time the least of any of us.

Well said, I don't want to come down on the guy though, I meant what I said. But thanks for your words, they ring true.

I just wonder how a person like coinseeker is in the real world. You know, they see the planet as a resource and people as competition to their ends.
Lots of work ahead...

[Coinseeker]

Congratulations on being what you are. It does feel good, doesn't it?  

It feels great, when logic and rational thinking trump, the ideological ignorance, that dominates this forum.  It feels great to shove it in your face and everyone on this board who's had something stupid to say, repeating the same BS, that defied common sense and reason.  I relish this moment.  Will any of you wake up and accept you're living in a dream world of delusions?  Probably not.  But at least you and I know...man to man...your ideology and your rhetoric is crap.

My job is done here.

What about heart? I guess if you are just in it for the money, you don't care about that. I put heart first, which is why I honesty tried giving you the benefit of the doubt. And what did you do? You accused me of being what you are and then attacked me when I asked a question...

You don't even reply to what I asked you about XRP, you just attacked me. You just again didn't reply to my points, you just attacked me.
You are trying to win these "war of words" on the forum and all the while are missing the bigger picture.
I'm not here to win arguments, not even really to make money, but to be a part of something special.
I can see that is the farthest thing from you mind, along with heart.  

Awww, now you want me to play a violin for you?  Get for real.  Take it like a man.  You've been dishing it out.  Now it's blown up in your face and you wanna be my friend?    Ok friend, I said my piece.  I was right and you were wrong.  It's a speculation forum and that's that.  Actions speak louder than words.  We'll see what happens from here.  But don't preach your ideological rhetoric at me anymore...because it's bogus and worth exactly spit, to accurate speculating.

[gandhibt]

Bottom hit?


( chart from: http://bitcoin.stoto.net/ )

Good site, but the price should be showed at the right side.

[sarc]

Bottom hit?


( chart from: http://bitcoin.stoto.net/ )

Good site, but the price should be showed at the right side.

interesting point to focus on...

[kickinyou]

Bottom hit?


( chart from: http://bitcoin.stoto.net/ )

Good site, but the price should be showed at the right side.

From this im only see more down ?
What is making it stop here ?

No only more down for now :p

[Its About Sharing]

Congratulations on being what you are. It does feel good, doesn't it?  

It feels great, when logic and rational thinking trump, the ideological ignorance, that dominates this forum.  It feels great to shove it in your face and everyone on this board who's had something stupid to say, repeating the same BS, that defied common sense and reason.  I relish this moment.  Will any of you wake up and accept you're living in a dream world of delusions?  Probably not.  But at least you and I know...man to man...your ideology and your rhetoric is crap.

My job is done here.

What about heart? I guess if you are just in it for the money, you don't care about that. I put heart first, which is why I honesty tried giving you the benefit of the doubt. And what did you do? You accused me of being what you are and then attacked me when I asked a question...

You don't even reply to what I asked you about XRP, you just attacked me. You just again didn't reply to my points, you just attacked me.
You are trying to win these "war of words" on the forum and all the while are missing the bigger picture.
I'm not here to win arguments, not even really to make money, but to be a part of something special.
I can see that is the farthest thing from you mind, along with heart.  

Awww, now you want me to play a violin for you?  Get for real.  Take it like a man.  You've been dishing it out.  Now it's blown up in your face and you wanna be my friend?    Ok friend, I said my piece.  I was right and you were wrong.  It's a speculation forum and that's that.  Actions speak louder than words.  We'll see what happens from here.  But don't preach your ideological rhetoric at me anymore...because it's bogus and worth exactly spit, to accurate speculating.

Um, what blew up in my face? I am in this for the long haul, I never said otherwise. You keep projecting your goals on others it seems.

I'm not preaching, I'm honestly sharing what I am.

"Take it like a man." - You know, that saying has cost mankind more than perhaps any other. Teaching boys that feelings and crying are wrong, etc. Where has it gotten us?

Good luck to you, really, we are in this together in the end...

[micalith]

Congratulations on being what you are. It does feel good, doesn't it?  

It feels great, when logic and rational thinking trump, the ideological ignorance, that dominates this forum.  It feels great to shove it in your face and everyone on this board who's had something stupid to say, repeating the same BS, that defied common sense and reason.  I relish this moment.  Will any of you wake up and accept you're living in a dream world of delusions?  Probably not.  But at least you and I know...man to man...your ideology and your rhetoric is crap.

My job is done here.

What about heart? I guess if you are just in it for the money, you don't care about that. I put heart first, which is why I honesty tried giving you the benefit of the doubt. And what did you do? You accused me of being what you are and then attacked me when I asked a question...

You don't even reply to what I asked you about XRP, you just attacked me. You just again didn't reply to my points, you just attacked me.
You are trying to win these "war of words" on the forum and all the while are missing the bigger picture.
I'm not here to win arguments, not even really to make money, but to be a part of something special.
I can see that is the farthest thing from you mind, along with heart.  

Awww, now you want me to play a violin for you?  Get for real.  Take it like a man.  You've been dishing it out.  Now it's blown up in your face and you wanna be my friend?    Ok friend, I said my piece.  I was right and you were wrong.  It's a speculation forum and that's that.  Actions speak louder than words.  We'll see what happens from here.  But don't preach your ideological rhetoric at me anymore...because it's bogus and worth exactly spit, to accurate speculating.

Um, what blew up in my face? I am in this for the long haul, I never said otherwise. You keep projecting your goals on others it seems.

I'm not preaching, I'm honestly sharing what I am.

"Take it like a man." - You know, that saying has cost mankind more than perhaps any other. Teaching boys that feelings and crying are wrong, etc. Where has it gotten us?

Good luck to you, really, we are in this together in the end...

Let him go dude. I've had him on ignore for a long time now. He's clearly made a life choice to be emotionally retarded, and won't change unless he decides to on his own.

[Coinseeker]

Good luck to you, really, we are in this together in the end...

That is something we can agree on, and that's a start.    

[Le Happy Merchant]

It feels great, when logic and rational thinking trump, the ideological ignorance, that dominates this forum.  It feels great to shove it in your face and everyone on this board who's had something stupid to say, repeating the same BS, that defied common sense and reason.  I relish this moment.  Will any of you wake up and accept you're living in a dream world of delusions?  Probably not.  But at least you and I know...man to man...your ideology and your rhetoric is crap.

My job is done here.

Just thought you should know, your ignore button is almost as dark as Matthew N. Wright. I think I am one of the few people who hasn't ignored you yet. I don't mind opposing positions to mine, but it turns out you're just a jerk. Congrats on alienating the community, and don't worry, I don't think people will rub your face in the rebound.

[ElectricMucus]

It feels great, when logic and rational thinking trump, the ideological ignorance, that dominates this forum.  It feels great to shove it in your face and everyone on this board who's had something stupid to say, repeating the same BS, that defied common sense and reason.  I relish this moment.  Will any of you wake up and accept you're living in a dream world of delusions?  Probably not.  But at least you and I know...man to man...your ideology and your rhetoric is crap.

My job is done here.

Just thought you should know, your ignore button is almost as dark as Matthew N. Wright. I think I am one of the few people who hasn't ignored you yet. I don't mind opposing positions to mine, but it turns out you're just a jerk. Congrats on alienating the community, and don't worry, I don't think people will rub your face in the rebound.

Yeah Coinseeker pretty much took over from me in the job as the "scapebear", does a pretty good job.

[samson]

And we touched $89.00 - more lows to come

[N12]

And we touched $89.00 - more lows to come

Should 79 break, the technical picture will be completely damaged.

[klee]

And we touched $89.00 - more lows to come

Should 79 break, the technical picture will be completely damaged.

We will hit 50$ and stabilize around 70-75$ I predict

[lucas.sev]

And we touched $89.00 - more lows to come

Should 79 break, the technical picture will be completely damaged.

We will hit 50$ and stabilize around 70-75$ I predict

timeframe, timeframe

[zemario]

Looks like that logarithmic chart was a good prediction.

Price is going down... what is left of the hype/bubble is being scrapped. A part of me regrets i didn't make a quick buck during the bubble. Oh well.