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June 13, 2013, 12:44:07 PM |
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I never purchased or sold anything on SR. I did make an account once to see what the fuss was about.
I think most bitcoiners have at one point looked to see what it's all about. We are Dutch, so nothing special for us. |
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TheKoziTwo
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June 13, 2013, 12:44:46 PM |
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And once again I disagree  Why? |
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June 13, 2013, 12:45:30 PM |
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You don't disagree, I don't believe in any moral need to follow laws that are unjust either. But if the statist are going to name you a criminal for doing what's right, then be proud to be a criminal.
No, I do disagree  They aren't crimes. Some ignorant people (governments mainly) may label them as crimes, but this doesn't make it so. Stop being silly. Governments are not ignorant, we only wish them to be. People who break [government] laws are criminals, by definition. |
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June 13, 2013, 12:45:34 PM |
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Sure sounds like there's a lot of SR vendors on this thread, trying to morally justify they are just that  Maybe bitcoin economy is mostly SR afterall... You are wrong. I never dealt on SR, ever. Don't take it so seriously, I was just poring oil on the fire |
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June 13, 2013, 12:46:53 PM |
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Sure sounds like there's a lot of SR vendors on this thread, trying to morally justify they are just that Maybe bitcoin economy is mostly SR afterall... You are wrong. I never dealt on SR, ever. Don't take it so seriously, I was just poring oil on the fire That being said, I don't have any moral issues with SR and may very well start dealing there one day. Just don't know what to deal. |
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June 13, 2013, 12:48:35 PM |
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And once again I disagree Why? You say I should take their definition because I don't have power over them. That's nonsense. |
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June 13, 2013, 12:50:26 PM |
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Sure sounds like there's a lot of SR vendors on this thread, trying to morally justify they are just that Maybe bitcoin economy is mostly SR afterall... Bitcoin economy = SR + asic companies to mine bitcoins |
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June 13, 2013, 12:54:17 PM |
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Sure sounds like there's a lot of SR vendors on this thread, trying to morally justify they are just that Maybe bitcoin economy is mostly SR afterall... Bitcoin economy = SR + asic companies to mine bitcoins You forget that 99% is pure speculation - like in fiat economy. Or just compare Forex daily turnover ($3.98 trillion) with any other business in the world. Speculation drives economy in the capitalist system. That's it. |
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June 13, 2013, 12:54:39 PM |
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In other news: guys, time to sell. Really.
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June 13, 2013, 12:57:30 PM |
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In other news: guys, time to sell. Really.
How about no... you crazy Dutch bastard! Buy in with all that green in your wallet! |
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June 13, 2013, 12:57:50 PM |
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In other news: guys, time to sell. Really.
What? Has it reached $300k/m BTC already? |
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TheKoziTwo
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June 13, 2013, 12:57:54 PM |
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And once again I disagree Why? You say I should take their definition because I don't have power over them. That's nonsense. It makes it very difficult to communicate with someone if their definitions differentiates from the majority. It doesn't have to do with surrendering anything. |
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June 13, 2013, 12:59:33 PM |
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And once again I disagree Why? You say I should take their definition because I don't have power over them. That's nonsense. It makes it very difficult to communicate with someone if their definitions differentiates from the majority. It doesn't have to do with surrendering anything. I cannot and will not accept a definition that's internally inconsistent. Even if all others in the world do accept it. You're right this may impede communication. |
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lucas.sev
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June 13, 2013, 01:00:05 PM |
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Sure sounds like there's a lot of SR vendors on this thread, trying to morally justify they are just that Maybe bitcoin economy is mostly SR afterall... Bitcoin economy = SR + asic companies to mine bitcoins You forget that 99% is pure speculation - like in fiat economy. Or just compare Forex daily turnover ($3.98 trillion) with any other business in the world. Speculation drives economy in the capitalist system. That's it. I don't forget that. I'm saying that once speculation is gone all that's left is SR and ASIC companies  |
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June 13, 2013, 01:00:41 PM |
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In other news: guys, time to sell. Really.
What? Has it reached $300k/m BTC already? Almost - anyhow, I'm just trolling. You guys know i'm a long term perma-bull  |
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lucas.sev
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June 13, 2013, 01:04:30 PM |
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In other news: guys, time to sell. Really.
What? Has it reached $300k/m BTC already? Almost - anyhow, I'm just trolling. You guys know i'm a long term perma-bull Is there anyone who is not? |
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June 13, 2013, 01:07:59 PM |
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And once again I disagree Why? You say I should take their definition because I don't have power over them. That's nonsense. It makes it very difficult to communicate with someone if their definitions differentiates from the majority. It doesn't have to do with surrendering anything. I cannot and will not accept a definition that's internally inconsistent. Even if all others in the world do accept it. You're right this may impede communication. I don't know you're political believes. But capitalism is an example of a word, that now, by the majority means a "government regulated marked / corporatism" and not a free market. Because of this, I do not use the word "capitalism " anymore, instead I use voluntaryism, anarcho-capitalism etc. Even "laissez-faire" has been somewhat diluted lately to define a regulated market. In your opinion I would be better off sticking with "capitalism" even though majority will misinterpret it. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree |
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TheKoziTwo
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June 13, 2013, 01:10:00 PM |
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In other news: guys, time to sell. Really.
What? Has it reached $300k/m BTC already? Almost - anyhow, I'm just trolling. You guys know i'm a long term perma-bull Is there anyone who is not? Those who held 100% fiat and waited for the price to drop to $2 one more time, back in 2011. Ooops |
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June 13, 2013, 01:14:45 PM |
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I don't know you're political believes. But capitalism is an example of a word, that now, by the majority means a "government regulated marked / corporatism" and not a free market. Because of this, I do not use the word "capitalism " anymore, instead I use voluntaryism, anarcho-capitalism etc. Even "laissez-faire" has been somewhat diluted lately to define a regulated market. In your opinion I would be better of sticking with "capitalism" even though majority will misinterpret it. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree Indeed I guess we do, because in the above examples I would choose to use the words as they are intended. If during the discussion we find out (usually quickly) that people use it incorrectly I will try to correct them. We do share a political preference it seems (Anarcho-Capitalism) BTW: How can laissez-faire ("let it be", "let it go") be diluted? These are two very common french words and merely translating them leads to the correct definition: no government involvement in the market! No exceptions. |
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lucas.sev
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June 13, 2013, 01:17:32 PM |
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In other news: guys, time to sell. Really.
What? Has it reached $300k/m BTC already? Almost - anyhow, I'm just trolling. You guys know i'm a long term perma-bull Is there anyone who is not? Those who held 100% fiat and waited for the price to drop to $2 one more time, back in 2011. Ooops I suppose they had their entry points at which they decided the bear market is over, just like me. I think we will drop to 30's but if we get through certain point above current price I will enter. |
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