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September 15, 2014, 04:02:18 PM

today we go above 480 never to return again.

and the monday morning dumps are right on Q

sometimes i think poeple come here, wait for me to say some random bullish prediction, and then dump. lol
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September 15, 2014, 04:07:38 PM

today we go above 480 never to return again.

and the monday morning dumps are right on Q

sometimes i think poeple come here, wait for me to say some random bullish prediction, and then dump. lol

Maybe stop making such predictions for a while and see the results? Wink
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September 15, 2014, 04:09:51 PM

I want a backdoor on stamp&co computers

Make a nice graph about who dump and when, where the coin come from etc...


Did the NSA ask a degree when you apply ?
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September 15, 2014, 04:12:01 PM

600 dump on Stamp, 500 on Finex and tried to push down the price on Huobi, same old story every other day. Whale buyer is still on Finex, supporting the price and no one seems to be following the dumpers on other exchanges. Huobi determined not to let the price cross 2,920. Rinse and repeat really, going nowhere fast and some mysterious dumper having a seemingly never ending supply of coins.

CONTINUED TRANSFER OF WEALTH   Wink


Maybe that is the million bitcoin question......?   


 Transferred from who to whom?
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September 15, 2014, 04:13:41 PM

600 dump on Stamp, 500 on Finex and tried to push down the price on Huobi, same old story every other day. Whale buyer is still on Finex, supporting the price and no one seems to be following the dumpers on other exchanges. Huobi determined not to let the price cross 2,920. Rinse and repeat really, going nowhere fast and some mysterious dumper having a seemingly never ending supply of coins.

CONTINUED TRANSFER OF WEALTH   Wink


Maybe that is the million bitcoin question......?   


 Transferred from who to whom?

The new world order aka the new wealthy elite. Maybe it's time for that thread again? Wink
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September 15, 2014, 04:16:31 PM

This is offtopic, but if you'd like to read more about this kind of thing look up mrmoneymustaches blog or early retirement extreme

I believe that these kinds of topics can be fairly relevant to the interests of people who invest in BTC; however, as you suggest, you may NOT want to place all of your plans in BTC appreciation b/c you need to have your investment portfolio to be sufficiently diversified in order to more or less count on such appreciation and that your estimations are reasonable and even conservative.

 More or less, I believe what you are saying and I am very familiar with investment plans that prescribe living well within your means and saving considerable amounts in order to be able to live off of passive income.  Additionally, I believe that it is possible to have such plans (b/c more or less I have such a plan and I am already living under it); however, some of my inquisition into your plan(s) was b/c I perceived that there just seemed to be a few contradictory aspects in your stated plan.. .and maybe even a bit of appeared waffling - however, some of those appearances of such may be that you cannot be completely sure about the future and about how well your investment portfolio will perform. 

Also, sometimes, it can be good to build a bit of an extra cushion in your nest egg, as you seem to be planning, in order to have some assurances and security that you are going to be safe with your plan, once you stop working.

Not sure what was contradictory. I was a little vague about my circumstances because I don't want to put too much on this forum.

If you PM me I'd be glad to talk more specifically
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September 15, 2014, 04:24:19 PM


i saw one that worked with an android phone, the card was like holding private keys, communicated with the phone to prompt the user & sign the TX, seem pretty secure way of spending coin on your phone, I wouldn't get rid of the paper wallet just yet, but it sure can beef up security for the spending wallet.

Doesn't really offer too much over a good password protected phone based wallet in that case though. It has its place but it's kind-of between two camps.

The design I was thinking of would have been a Trezor type USB device but with the wallet stored on a smartcard like this wallet kinda is. This would allow multiple wallets and an additional level of security. It's good to see several types of device out there though.
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September 15, 2014, 04:28:35 PM


Did the NSA ask a degree when you apply ?

Dude, NSA doesn't need to ask *anything* when you apply. You possibly don't even need to apply if you've discussed the idea with someone recently.
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Did the NSA ask a degree when you apply ?

Dude, NSA doesn't need to ask *anything* when you apply. You possibly don't even need to apply if you've discussed the idea with someone recently.

So the above post is probably sufficient. They will call you when they are interested in your services.
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September 15, 2014, 04:33:48 PM

600 dump on Stamp, 500 on Finex and tried to push down the price on Huobi, same old story every other day. Whale buyer is still on Finex, supporting the price and no one seems to be following the dumpers on other exchanges. Huobi determined not to let the price cross 2,920. Rinse and repeat really, going nowhere fast and some mysterious dumper having a seemingly never ending supply of coins.

CONTINUED TRANSFER OF WEALTH   Wink


Maybe that is the million bitcoin question......?  


 Transferred from who to whom?


From Hal Finney to anybody that wants to buy.


He could have a hundreds of thousands.
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September 15, 2014, 04:44:13 PM

I think the one manipulator will come soon, hammering the final nail in the coffin.

Yes the dumping is looking pretty weak at the moment.
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September 15, 2014, 04:47:30 PM

600 dump on Stamp, 500 on Finex and tried to push down the price on Huobi, same old story every other day. Whale buyer is still on Finex, supporting the price and no one seems to be following the dumpers on other exchanges. Huobi determined not to let the price cross 2,920. Rinse and repeat really, going nowhere fast and some mysterious dumper having a seemingly never ending supply of coins.

CONTINUED TRANSFER OF WEALTH   Wink


Maybe that is the million bitcoin question......?  


 Transferred from who to whom?


From Hal Finney to anybody that wants to buy.


He could have a hundreds of thousands.
I think I had read he said he was not a whale but I am not sure....
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September 15, 2014, 04:48:49 PM

"BitYes (Huobi's USA offering) puts USA in the same camp as Iran, Cuba, North Korea"

http://imgur.com/NrTEZdl

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September 15, 2014, 04:49:51 PM

Bitfinex just released a new trading pair.

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We are pleased to offer mining contracts as trading product on the Bitfinex platform. We have worked for some time to develop what we believe is a superior approach to “cloud mining” that is smartly packaged to offer simplicity and transparency. While we are very excited about this offering, please note that we consider this a “live beta” as we continue to tweak the product to meet the need of our traders. Because it is a beta phase product, the first “tranche” is purposely small and short-dated. As we gain experience in administering this product, assess demand, and incorporate feedback from our traders, we will introduced larger and longer dated tranches. The contract specifications follow:
•   Trading Pair: TH1BTC
•   Tranche Size: 100 THS (terahashes per second)
•   Expiration: 3 Months
•   Pool: TH1 is part of a larger pool (~3,500 THS total). Statistics regarding this pool will be posted regularly along with blockchain transaction id’s will be posted and frequently updated.
•   Pool Fee: 3%
•   Hosting: All hosting, power and maintenance cost for the duration of the contract is included in the price per TH.
•   Margin: TH1 can be borrowed and sold short. We will start out with a 25% Initial Margin Requirement, but we see that going as low as 12.5% in the near future.
•   Dividends: The blockchain time stamp on block rewards will be used to determine “holders of record” at the time that the block was mined. Positions will be aggregated between balances in the Exchange Wallet and trading position in the trading wallet to determine a “net position”. Dividends will be computed as the pro rata share of the block reward less the pool fee. Longs will get paid dividends in their default wallet. Shorts will pay dividends from the Trading Wallet only. Longs who provide TH1 swap liquidity will still receive dividends.
The product is designed as a “depleting asset”, whose value will continue to go down all the way to zero at expiration. Coupled with the fact that all hosting and maintenance is already included, we expect fair value analysis to be much easier for the average trader and cloud miner. TH1 will also be the first shortable mining contract (that we are aware of) further enhancing efficient price discovery. Trading will commence at 9 AM EDT on Monday September 15, 2014. We welcome your feedback and, as always, we thank you for your business and continued support.
Regards,
The Bitfinex Team
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Bitfinex just released a new trading pair.

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We are pleased to offer mining contracts as trading product on the Bitfinex platform. We have worked for some time to develop what we believe is a superior approach to “cloud mining” that is smartly packaged to offer simplicity and transparency. While we are very excited about this offering, please note that we consider this a “live beta” as we continue to tweak the product to meet the need of our traders. Because it is a beta phase product, the first “tranche” is purposely small and short-dated. As we gain experience in administering this product, assess demand, and incorporate feedback from our traders, we will introduced larger and longer dated tranches. The contract specifications follow:
•   Trading Pair: TH1BTC
•   Tranche Size: 100 THS (terahashes per second)
•   Expiration: 3 Months
•   Pool: TH1 is part of a larger pool (~3,500 THS total). Statistics regarding this pool will be posted regularly along with blockchain transaction id’s will be posted and frequently updated.
•   Pool Fee: 3%
•   Hosting: All hosting, power and maintenance cost for the duration of the contract is included in the price per TH.
•   Margin: TH1 can be borrowed and sold short. We will start out with a 25% Initial Margin Requirement, but we see that going as low as 12.5% in the near future.
•   Dividends: The blockchain time stamp on block rewards will be used to determine “holders of record” at the time that the block was mined. Positions will be aggregated between balances in the Exchange Wallet and trading position in the trading wallet to determine a “net position”. Dividends will be computed as the pro rata share of the block reward less the pool fee. Longs will get paid dividends in their default wallet. Shorts will pay dividends from the Trading Wallet only. Longs who provide TH1 swap liquidity will still receive dividends.
The product is designed as a “depleting asset”, whose value will continue to go down all the way to zero at expiration. Coupled with the fact that all hosting and maintenance is already included, we expect fair value analysis to be much easier for the average trader and cloud miner. TH1 will also be the first shortable mining contract (that we are aware of) further enhancing efficient price discovery. Trading will commence at 9 AM EDT on Monday September 15, 2014. We welcome your feedback and, as always, we thank you for your business and continued support.
Regards,
The Bitfinex Team

Was posting the same thing. You beat me to it :-)
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September 15, 2014, 04:51:52 PM

...and price pops back up, leaving a long wick on the candle.

Always bouncing back...

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September 15, 2014, 04:56:56 PM

The bitcoin market right now (and since Dec '13) is so shit, so limp, so sucky, so everything bad that a proper shit market should be.   In the same time period, other stocks have been flying or steadily moving upward.  Bitcoin, nothing but down/sideways/more down. 

Makes complete sense that I'm involved at all.  FML.
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September 15, 2014, 05:01:37 PM

So... weekend is over, bitfinex offer 3 months mining contracts that you can short, litecoin has taken a dump, Silk Road 2.0 is under attack.
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