Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[Adrian-x]

well i didn't know that, that makes it all better....

If a bank with more than 20billions dollar in assets adopting Ripple can't make you rethink about the Ripple network then I have to say you are probably close minded.

Lol, this just makes it easier to buy Bitcoin From a Bank that's all.

But glad to have you back mah87, I was concerned you were drinking your own koolaid   just before the last ripple crash.

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[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[Walsoraj]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=785256.0

Nagle has declared Bitstamp's annual statement to be worthless. Send your USD to Stamp's ripple gateway and get out before it's too late.

[adamstgBit]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=785256.0

Nagle has declared Bitstamp's annual statement to be worthless. Send your USD to Stamp's ripple gateway and get out before it's too late.

fudster...

[mah87]

well i didn't know that, that makes it all better....

If a bank with more than 20billions dollar in assets adopting Ripple can't make you rethink about the Ripple network then I have to say you are probably close minded.

Lol, this just makes it easier to buy Bitcoin From a Bank that's all.

But glad to have you back mah87, I was concerned you were drinking your own koolaid   just before the last ripple crash.

well ripple will make bitcoin pretty useless in less than 2years probably...

[raid_n]

Not really.  I[t] is *supposed* to halve now and then.  I suspect it will fork at the next halving however.  Too much hardware plant in mining now.

They will be mining worthless tokens if they attempt any such thing (if I'm understanding your post correctly).

It's definitely a much more disruptive event now that the mining is concentrated in large industrial plants.  Last time, the network was vastly less centralized.  Next time, it would take 2 pools or maybe even just one, to decide to run without halving, and it wouldn't matter how much you wanted to avoid personal dilution.

Well it would mean releasing a fork of bitcoin-qt and bitcoind that is modified and any code that follows the official protocol.
Miners would need the backing of at least half the community.

Oh, and lets not forget the honest miners that do not agree to the fork. Effectively you'd more than halve the difficulty if you decide to fork.
This then becomes a game of byzantine generals

[adamstgBit]

CUT YOUR LOOSES~!

[adamstgBit]

[fonzie]

Buy orders@ Bitstamp are up. Bullish manipulator is in the house    



Edit: and they´re gone

Edit2: and they´re up

Edit3: and they´re gone

Edit4: and they´re up

Edit5: and they´re gone

[JayJuanGee]

ok i quit this forum, again. for the 100th time.

Such upset, so wow.

you cannot quit because you are our leader.   

[esse83]

$10k before christmas  I have all my money tied up in bitcoin so if it crashes u guys can find me in a van down by the river.

[adamstgBit]

its going to be brutal....

[oda.krell]

Not really.  I[t] is *supposed* to halve now and then.  I suspect it will fork at the next halving however.  Too much hardware plant in mining now.

They will be mining worthless tokens if they attempt any such thing (if I'm understanding your post correctly).

It's definitely a much more disruptive event now that the mining is concentrated in large industrial plants.  Last time, the network was vastly less centralized.  Next time, it would take 2 pools or maybe even just one, to decide to run without halving, and it wouldn't matter how much you wanted to avoid personal dilution.

Hashpower majority will follow economic majority (it's individually rational of each miner/pool to do so, so it's not even potentially a ToC scenario.). Economic majority would need to be fully aligned with mining majority for that to happen, but that is extremely unlikely: old BTC hands + new high net investors (say, Winklevii) + 2013 and later venture capital + exchange operators are a lot more likely to constitute an economic majority together, and they have nothing to gain from a fork motivated by disgruntled miners.

EDIT: but I enjoy the odd devil's advocate style scenario, so i'm not complaining you brought that one up.

[X7]

$10k before christmas  I have all my money tied up in bitcoin so if it crashes u guys can find me in a van down by the river.

Psshh... I was all in 5 months ago... im about that life...

[X7]

[riiiiising]

Damn, how many times I got to tell you guys?

The only reason price is still down at this level is because wall street is manipulating the market in one last ditch effort to buy cheap coins. Once they've had enough, they will allow natural organic growth to $1,000 and probably much higher.

Yes.  This.  

The same people that want to keep the price low will eventually want to pump it up.  I am just surprised how patient they are and how long they have kept the price low.  

They know that the longer they keep the price low, the more "weak hands" they can shake and get the price even lower. I'm optimistic, but in the short term I suspect we'll go lower still. Really, it's in the hands of our Wall Street overlords.  

When they want it to go up again, it will be epic.

[esse83]

Damn, how many times I got to tell you guys?

The only reason price is still down at this level is because wall street is manipulating the market in one last ditch effort to buy cheap coins. Once they've had enough, they will allow natural organic growth to $1,000 and probably much higher.

Yes.  This.  

The same people that want to keep the price low will eventually want to pump it up.  I am just surprised how patient they are and how long they have kept the price low.  

They know that the longer they keep the price low, the more "weak hands" they can shake and get the price even lower. I'm optimistic, but in the short term I suspect we'll go lower still. Really, it's in the hands of our Wall Street overlords.  

When they want it to go up again, it will be epic.

Wall Street doesn't give a fuck about btc, over there it is a joke and looked down upon. If u even mention bitcoin they all laugh and point at you. Dogecoin they respect though, Warren buffet loves memecoins.  

[mmitech]

stop with "manipulators" conspiracy, not every single trade that effect the price is manipulation, we are 200$ (from 650) in 2 months and you are still talking about bubbles and manipulators!!!  the truth is that the price might fall down further, I am surprised it held this long. 

[riiiiising]

stop with "manipulators" conspiracy, not every single trade that effect the price is manipulation, we are 200$ (from 650) in 2 months and you are still talking about bubbles and manipulators!!!  the truth is that the price might fall down further, I am surprised it held this long. 

My friend, every time people start to give up on a bubble, that means another is coming soon We only had to shake the weak hands first. Is this manipulation? Not completely. Some is, and some is just some people falling victim to the bear FUD in here and reddit. Some people honestly want out. But given the infrastructure and the fundamentals haven't changed, we should be well over $2,000 USD a coin now.

Just remember that, if the fundamentals haven't changed, then we are still good.

[adamstgBit]

of course there is manipulators

bitcoin is manipulator heaven.... or hell, idk i'm not a manipulator...