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Nah ... Greeks love tourism. Greek islands are peaceful places. Sure, I would avoid large cities and public places (tho even that might be being too cautious), but I doubt there will be much other than gratitiude for tourists in the islands. They NEED that income and all small islands are like mafias ... crime breaks out that affects business, it will be nipped in the bud. Sure, I would expect a little more crime there if everyone is carrying cash, but the islands are one of their greatest assets and they know it.

Stand with the Greeks, take extra money and spend it all, they need it  Smiley

I'm half expecting a massive street party once they are released from the tyranny of the EU, if that happens. Sure, lots of hard work ahead, but no more boot stamping on the face ...

macgsa, interested to hear your view ... btw, I am not implying that greek islanders are only friendly to tourists for the money  Wink

Greek islands are a place of Heaven that escaped on Earth. The current problem is that WE (the Greeks) cannot withdraw more than 60Eur per person, a day. That doesn't apply to a tourist coming to Greece. They have the ability to take infinite amounts. If you check the posts from tourists that are now on Greek islands, you see how the world is rolling here.

Personally, I don't anymore expect a Grexit. I don't expect a nice deal for us either, but I do expect a HEAVY debt reduction by the institutions. Similar to the one that occurred to Germany's debt in 1953 with the London treaty. Call me a fool, but that's what -I think- is the reason Greece has not already been on Drachma or something similar.

We look forward. We're strong and grateful that we live here. Money don't matter. People do...


You are probably right, now Germany has agreed Greece needs debt restructuring. Germany stubbornly refusing to consider restructuring was the biggest impediment to a deal. Now its changed its mind a deal might go through this weekend that prevents a Grexit.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/09/us-eurozone-greece-idUSKBN0P40EO20150709

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Germany conceded on Thursday that Greece would need some debt restructuring as part of any new loan program to make its economy viable as the Greek cabinet raced to finalize reform proposals to avert an imminent economic meltdown.

The admission by German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble came hours before a midnight deadline for Athens to submit a reform plan meant to convince European partners to give it another loan to save it from a possible exit from the euro.
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is there any possibility to rise the tx-fees on Multibit?
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I am waiting for my transaction for over 4hours now and still no confirmation... Payed the regular fees...

Jesus.. we need bigger blocks yesterday.

84k unconf tx in mempool https://tradeblock.com/blockchain/  Undecided
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Nah ... Greeks love tourism. Greek islands are peaceful places. Sure, I would avoid large cities and public places (tho even that might be being too cautious), but I doubt there will be much other than gratitiude for tourists in the islands. They NEED that income and all small islands are like mafias ... crime breaks out that affects business, it will be nipped in the bud. Sure, I would expect a little more crime there if everyone is carrying cash, but the islands are one of their greatest assets and they know it.

Stand with the Greeks, take extra money and spend it all, they need it  Smiley

I'm half expecting a massive street party once they are released from the tyranny of the EU, if that happens. Sure, lots of hard work ahead, but no more boot stamping on the face ...

macgsa, interested to hear your view ... btw, I am not implying that greek islanders are only friendly to tourists for the money  Wink

Greek islands are a place of Heaven that escaped on Earth. The current problem is that WE (the Greeks) cannot withdraw more than 60Eur per person, a day. That doesn't apply to a tourist coming to Greece. They have the ability to take infinite amounts. If you check the posts from tourists that are now on Greek islands, you see how the world is rolling here.

Personally, I don't anymore expect a Grexit. I don't expect a nice deal for us either, but I do expect a HEAVY debt reduction by the institutions. Similar to the one that occurred to Germany's debt in 1953 with the London treaty. Call me a fool, but that's what -I think- is the reason Greece has not already been on Drachma or something similar.

We look forward. We're strong and grateful that we live here. Money don't matter. People do...




YIAMAS!!!!!

Yiamas! Greece is a beautiful country.
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2 hours,

Will I look foolish?
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July 09, 2015, 08:27:46 PM

I am waiting for my transaction for over 4hours now and still no confirmation... Payed the regular fees...

Jesus.. we need bigger blocks yesterday.


pay .0002 and it will fly through within minutes... np.
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Greek islands are a place of Heaven that escaped on Earth. The current problem is that WE (the Greeks) cannot withdraw more than 60Eur per person, a day. That doesn't apply to a tourist coming to Greece. They have the ability to take infinite amounts. If you check the posts from tourists that are now on Greek islands, you see how the world is rolling here.

Personally, I don't anymore expect a Grexit. I don't expect a nice deal for us either, but I do expect a HEAVY debt reduction by the institutions. Similar to the one that occurred to Germany's debt in 1953 with the London treaty. Call me a fool, but that's what -I think- is the reason Greece has not already been on Drachma or something similar.

We look forward. We're strong and grateful that we live here. Money don't matter. People do...
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YIAMAS!!!!!

Yeh, this is what I am expecting too, a tough deal, but one that that gives Greeks a chance ...
It will hopefully have a snowball effect in other countries that are currently being stomped on too

Thank you for adding the personal touch Smiley

YIAMAS!  Cheesy

@criptix ... yeh, I kinda thought Tsipras looked like that too, but regardless of his (hugely biased) recommendations, Farage spoke a lot of truth there
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July 09, 2015, 08:30:24 PM


You do already and have been for 46 hours.


Regarding Greece story, don't you think that if Greece gets debt reduction all other countries in trouble wants it as well?
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July 09, 2015, 08:30:32 PM

I am waiting for my transaction for over 4hours now and still no confirmation... Payed the regular fees...

Jesus.. we need bigger blocks yesterday.


pay .0002 and it will fly through within minutes... np.

I had the same issue with a few transactions a few days back, i think it's because of all these chain issues, it took 12+ hours to confirm.
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July 09, 2015, 08:32:42 PM

I am waiting for my transaction for over 4hours now and still no confirmation... Payed the regular fees...

Jesus.. we need bigger blocks yesterday.


pay .0002 and it will fly through within minutes... np.

I transferred a few bits and bobs around a couple of days ago. Can't say I noticed any delays and didn't adjust any fees. Maybe Satoshi is smiling down upon me.
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July 09, 2015, 08:33:38 PM


Not more than the rest of us.

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ALERT: LTC FOMO FOMO FOMO

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when the LTC fomo gets the strongest it's time to jump out.
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July 09, 2015, 08:48:26 PM

I am waiting for my transaction for over 4hours now and still no confirmation... Payed the regular fees...

Jesus.. we need bigger blocks yesterday.


pay .0002 and it will fly through within minutes... np.

I transferred a few bits and bobs around a couple of days ago. Can't say I noticed any delays and didn't adjust any fees. Maybe Satoshi is smiling down upon me.
Same here. pulled BTC out of pools and into my wallet, then sent some up to coinbase. Everything seemed normal. That was 2 days ago now.
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July 09, 2015, 08:51:21 PM

Fucking Litecoin's stealing our thunder
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July 09, 2015, 08:52:32 PM

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I tried shorting litecoin, but not lately. Every time I exited with a tiny loss, just before a pump.
So I think it's still risky, I will only short it if I get the timing right, before the huge red dildo (that will surely happen).
yes, it's a risky business but somebody still has to do it.
I dont mind if others arent at it, that means just more money for me.

I wonder what happened with tarmi's litecoin shorting, in the 4 days since he posted this the price doubled.
While I did pull a few hairs for missing out on this incredible pump, I sure didn't try to short the chickun. Cheesy
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July 09, 2015, 08:53:59 PM

Fucking Litecoin's stealing our thunder

Waiiit for iiiiiit.....
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July 09, 2015, 08:54:08 PM

crypto market completely off. chinese copy cat coin with no fundamentals mooning. ppc crap coin in top 10. btc barely doing anything.

penny stocks are a sane investment compared to this. no way fresh blood will enter this mess.
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July 09, 2015, 08:56:04 PM


Regarding Greece story, don't you think that if Greece gets debt reduction all other countries in trouble wants it as well?

Yup, and eventually they will get it, instead of crippling 'austerity' and asset stripping.
Greece has struck a huge blow against financial tyranny here, and the aftershocks will be felt for years, whatever the outcome.

Shame of it is that the cost primarily will be borne by ordinary taxpayers rather than the banks that originally made loans *knowing* they could never be paid back. They have already taken their profits, with the CB's holding the majority of this debt now, having taken it at face value from the banks as collateral for fresh loans, or bought it outright in the marketplace through 'QE'.
The whole thing is a sham, and hopefully in time the true extent of it will come to light and people will understand what has really been going on for the last 5 years - a shift of toxic debt from big banks to the general public, most of which will eventually have to be written off.
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