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Question: Dec. 16 Bitcoin Price:
<$10,000 - 24 (11.7%)
$10,000-$12,000 - 7 (3.4%)
$12,000-$14,000 - 10 (4.9%)
$14,000-$16,000 - 16 (7.8%)
$16,000-$18,000 - 28 (13.7%)
$18,000-$20,000 - 37 (18%)
$20,000-$22,000 - 28 (13.7%)
$24,000-$26,000 - 14 (6.8%)
$26,000-$28,000 - 3 (1.5%)
$28,000-$30,000 - 7 (3.4%)
>$30,000 - 31 (15.1%)
Total Voters: 205

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November 13, 2017, 01:47:18 AM


Falkvinge has some 'interesting' ideas on a lot of things .... three-reasons-child-porn-must-be-re-legalized ... maybe if small block camp had said it was promoting kiddie-sized blocks he would have been okay with it?
Do you think it's too late to rebrand?
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November 13, 2017, 01:52:32 AM


Falkvinge has some 'interesting' ideas on a lot of things .... three-reasons-child-porn-must-be-re-legalized ... maybe if small block camp had said it was promoting kiddie-sized blocks he would have been okay with it?
Do you think it's too late to rebrand?

... as has become abundantly clear since August and over the last weekend, it was never about the blocksize. Rebranding is not going to help, even for the most suggestable of the lost idiots amongst the wanderers from the path. It was always about control.

End. Of. Story.
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November 13, 2017, 01:58:16 AM

BCH difficulty is 4X now, so hash power will move to BTC.
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November 13, 2017, 02:01:18 AM

If Monday comes and we're still bleeding down like Peter R. imagines we will be, I'm going to start daytarding. Simple as that.
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November 13, 2017, 02:08:12 AM


Why do you weee on all of your comments?  Seems a bit self-defeating.  Grin

because the moons of jupiter are coming soon :-D weeee

Oh, geez, get out my brown pants!
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Drama Drama Drama... Always the same with Bitcoin...
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November 13, 2017, 02:16:15 AM


Falkvinge has some 'interesting' ideas on a lot of things .... three-reasons-child-porn-must-be-re-legalized ... maybe if small block camp had said it was promoting kiddie-sized blocks he would have been okay with it?
Do you think it's too late to rebrand?

... as has become abundantly clear since August and over the last weekend, it was never about the blocksize. Rebranding is not going to help, even for the most suggestable of the lost idiots amongst the wanderers from the path. It was always about control.

End. Of. Story.
I was just extending the joke. I fully agree and think it was pretty clear that this was never about the blocksize to begin with. Anyone who didn't realize in August should've realized once Bitmain stopped accepting Bitcoin for its miners.
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November 13, 2017, 02:22:15 AM


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November 13, 2017, 02:32:33 AM

Who thinks they're going to pump BCH again tonight?
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November 13, 2017, 02:43:32 AM

Who thinks they're going to pump dump BCH again tonight?
I do, it's dying. It will be agony.
Get your Bitcoins while they're hot.
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November 13, 2017, 02:46:31 AM


LOL  Shocked Shocked

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Rickster looks like he a villain from some old james bond flick :-D muuhahah

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November 13, 2017, 02:57:25 AM

"And their reasons aren’t going to be “decentralization”, “censorship resistance”, “non-aggression money”, or any other nice theoretical construct. Their three reasons for joining Bitcoin Cash, in 99.999% of cases, are going to be profit, profit, and more profit, in that order."
CEO Rick

Why does he think Bitcoin would be worth anything without these things? I'm trying to understand.

He didn't say that Bitcoin would be worth anything without these things. He said that the reason people will swarm to it is profit.

Sure - we know that decentralization, censorship resistance, and non-aggression qualities enhance its ability to render profit. But the masses don't need to know this -- at least at first involvement -- and furthermore likely do not care. Profit is profit. Most of the populace spends a huge portion of their waking hours seeking profit. So the potential for profit is what will first bring them to Bitcoin.

It need not be the latter at the exclusion of the former.





So this guy is utterly convinced that scaling is impossible without centralisation.

Exactly where in that video did you see Falkvinge make this statement?



How about nodes? Does BCH actually have any that aren't Bitmain?

I cannot speak definitively. There's mine. I ain't Bitmain. I assume that many others -- who I know to believe in the direction Bitcoin Cash has set for Bitcoin's future -- likewise run nodes.



"Bitcoin is a worldwide cryptocurrency and digital payment system called the first decentralized digital currency, as the system works without a central repository or single administrator."

Perhaps if you could make a cogent case showing how Bitcoin Segwit is in any way more decentralized than Bitcoin Cash, you might have a point. But so far, all I've seen from you or others is mere hand waving.

Actually he has very good point. What you call Bitcoin Segwit can do ALL the things so called Bitcoin Cash can do and a lot more. This is why BCH is dead. It was born dead.


Notice how jbreher the troll doesn't acknowledge that Bitcoin Cash is the ULTIMATE in a 98%+ centralized mining operation, nor ever gives any evidence to the contrary. He doesn't even care that it's a problem. He just deflects, hand-waves, and tries to turn the argument back on the other person.  Roll Eyes He's fkn done this for years, it's his MO.

The set of Bitcoin Cash miners is pretty much identical to the set of Bitcoin Segwit miners.

Though I see you have not yet provided any sort of response to my post. To wit:

Perhaps if you could make a cogent case showing how Bitcoin Segwit is in any way more decentralized than Bitcoin Cash, you might have a point. But so far, all I've seen from you or others is mere hand waving.
And you have not provided any sort of response to my post. The latest one, as well as in general. Let's try again.

Do you have anything other than ideology to back your support of clonecoin?

Well, other than the fact that this conversation was demonstrably between not you and I, but rather between Torque and myself...What post of yours are you speaking of? I can hardly respond to a post you've not made.

Yes. I have plenty to back my support of Bitcoin Cash. Which I have elucidated many times upthread. I'll trot some points out again, if you would so desire. But first, how about you actually point me to your purported earlier request.

Hell, let's up the ante. I'll posit the same challenge to you as I did to Torque - Perhaps if you could make a cogent case showing how Bitcoin Segwit is in any way more decentralized than Bitcoin Cash, you might have a point. But so far, all I've seen from you or others is mere hand waving.




The set of Bitcoin Cash miners is pretty much identical to the set of Bitcoin Segwit miners.

Though I see you have not yet provided any sort of response to my post. To wit:

Perhaps if you could make a cogent case showing how Bitcoin Segwit is in any way more decentralized than Bitcoin Cash, you might have a point. But so far, all I've seen from you or others is mere hand waving.
You serious bro?
How about a letter from the CEO (how decentralized). They carefully removed it from the website, but google cache is still helpful
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:73C-unKBSVUJ:https://www.bitcoincash.org/letter-from-the-ceo.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

Yes I am serious. Did you read the paper? Are your reading skills that abysmal? The CEO appellation was clearly tongue-in-cheek! Jeebus Cripes! From the first page thereof: The Bitcoin Cash organization has no titles other than those which we make up for fun in the spur of the moment, or to make fun of the organizations of the old world that care for titles

I can't figure out of you are that far buried up Core's crack, that deluded, that disingenuous, or just plain that thick.



Don't bother ragnar0k. JBreher will just hand-wave those ramblings of their CEO madman away as unimportant and ignore you.

Et tu, Torque? I'd never before judged you to be stupid.



They need an updated whitepaper,  "A CEO-to-Peer Electronic Cash System".

I suppose it'll be rewritten by Cobra?



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You serious bro?
How about a letter from the CEO [of BCH] (how decentralized).

Hey, jbreher!  Did you receive your official title from Bitcoin Cash yet?  Rick is CEO, Jihan is CSO, and Roger's new title is just "jesus."

They gave me the humble title of assistant GIF-maker in residence  Undecided .

Congrats!

Judging by the attitudes of some here, I must be deserving of _some_ title. When do I start getting paid?
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November 13, 2017, 03:11:52 AM


How about nodes? Does BCH actually have any that aren't Bitmain?

I cannot speak definitively. There's mine. I ain't Bitmain. I assume that many others -- who I know to believe in the direction Bitcoin Cash has set for Bitcoin's future -- likewise run nodes.


Not much of an answer, that. Sort of hand-wavey.


Perhaps if you could make a cogent case showing how Bitcoin Segwit is in any way more decentralized than Bitcoin Cash, you might have a point. But so far, all I've seen from you or others is mere hand waving.

Node count and distribution is important. Why are you pretending it's a non-issue?
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WE TRUST EACH OTHER TO FAIL WELL.
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November 13, 2017, 03:42:33 AM

This is an interesting wall on Vaultoro: lots of gold for sale for BTC near current price, but almost no BTC chasing gold at current price.



I doubt that anyone takes the effort to fake walls there, so I see it as a sign that BTC is unlikely to crash much further.
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November 13, 2017, 03:49:37 AM

And the saga goes on.

https://bitcoin2x.org

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November 13, 2017, 03:51:38 AM

And the saga goes on.

https://bitcoin2x.org

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November 13, 2017, 03:53:14 AM

This anarchy stuff sure is messy. 
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