Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[itod]

Well if someone wants to send me one for an eval I'd be happy to review it and take it apart. if it's just a S7/S9 that would be easy to spot. Likewise if it's legit.

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Adam's "I have seen it" isn't good enough. Any new mining hardware needs to be hands-on tested by an independent third-party like lightfoot.

Isn't good enough for the performance figure, if something claims is 30% better then anything else that exists it has to be independently verified, but is good enough that it is not a scam. Guy has no reason to risk his reputation for something like that.

[jojo69]

mempool spam *check
bch pump *check
tether/bitfinex fud *check
WO bears active *check
bitcointalk ddos *missing

get ready for bitcoin black friday sales, I see a bigger weekend dip coming! get them while they are cheap!

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand

there's the bitcointalk DDOS

[Syke]

Isn't good enough for the performance figure, if something claims is 30% better then anything else that exists it has to be independently verified, but is good enough that it is not a scam. Guy has no reason to risk his reputation for something like that.

Bitmain, Spondoolies, etc. sent out demo units that proved they were real with real specs. If Halong Mining won't do that, I'd consider that a deal-breaker red-flag.

[d_eddie]

mempool spam *check
bch pump *check
tether/bitfinex fud *check
WO bears active *check
bitcointalk ddos *missing

get ready for bitcoin black friday sales, I see a bigger weekend dip coming! get them while they are cheap!

Ready!

[york780]

Bbbut 3k end target from Vinny Lingham?

[rolling]

Isn't good enough for the performance figure, if something claims is 30% better then anything else that exists it has to be independently verified, but is good enough that it is not a scam. Guy has no reason to risk his reputation for something like that.

Bitmain, Spondoolies, etc. sent out demo units that proved they were real with real specs. If Halong Mining won't do that, I'd consider that a deal-breaker red-flag.

Also, even if they have a working prototype, there is no guarantee that they deliver on time and within specs. They are funding the production run with the presale.

[JayJuanGee]

Me too i got burned in 2013 after gox, and now i fear for a similar   bear market to come back.
When bch attacked btc and was getting the majority of hashes i nearly shitted my pants, as i did a couple days ago for the tether news. I am scared, I think it's normal, and I don't even have a big stash of coins!
For some people, the recent surge made them overinvested in bitcoin. They should maybe sell some. But i won't sell, because like now I could buy a nice thing or two but i can't really change my life with  my few btc, and I still dream of being able to do so one day.
I don't know if I'm delusional, but bitcoin is the only asset i know that you can buy if you want to buy this particular hope.

That's about speculation.

About the fundamentals I still think they are very good, and I think core team is doing well too, and that bitcoin will become a main technology in the future and will be widely used. But i think this is only weakly related  with the current (or future) price.

Your level of nervousness seems to strongly suggest that you are a bit over-invested into bitcoin - for your own comfort-level. 

You should not feel so much stress, especially when we are essentially in a bull-market and we have already experienced a lot of price appreciation.  Furthermore,  most of us should already expect bitcoin to be volatile, and even if the odds (and cards) seem to be in favor of continued upwards price movement, manipulation and even just the unpredictableness of the price happens all of the time, so we cannot bank on any situation, especially any kind of expectation or need that the price will go up or to maintain its own.  The most likely thing that we can bank on is ongoing volatility, and that is the part that we have to learn to either take advantage of such expected ongoing volatility or at least engage in measures to ameliorate some of the negative effects of such highly likely volatility expectations.

[itod]

Isn't good enough for the performance figure, if something claims is 30% better then anything else that exists it has to be independently verified, but is good enough that it is not a scam. Guy has no reason to risk his reputation for something like that.

Bitmain, Spondoolies, etc. sent out demo units that proved they were real with real specs. If Halong Mining won't do that, I'd consider that a deal-breaker red-flag.

Also, even if they have a working prototype, there is no guarantee that they deliver on time and within specs. They are funding the production run with the presale.

They may be late with production run, and they may reach 20% instead of 30% better than Bitmain, but let us cheer a little bit because that asshole Jihan Wu will not have a monopoly on quality miners large production capacity any more. It is a good day for BTC.

[jojo69]

They are funding the production run with the presale.

So they take our money, experience "production delays" while the hashrate coincidentally skyrockets, and finally deliver once ROI dropps off.

Ive seen this show before.

[fragout]

They are funding the production run with the presale.

So they take our money, experience "production delays" while the hashrate coincidentally skyrockets, and finally deliver once ROI dropps off.

Ive seen this show before.

butterfly labs. ah the memories

[HairyMaclairy]

Ok what are predictions for this weekend’s FUD bomb?   

[julian071]

Ok what are predictions for this weekend’s FUD bomb?   

I think it's time for another quantum computig breakthrough.

[Dabs]

Looks legit: Dabs has received one to test it

I asked for one, I have not yet received one. I just noticed it today, so I sent them an email asking for one. Let's see if they give it. I'll run it for a week or a month. Then either sell it or have it hosted in the North Pole with Santa.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

It's 100% scam, the design is similar to S9/S7 he just replaced the sticker and made a fake stat

https://twitter.com/adam3us/status/933348194062360577

Au contraire?

This makes me happy.

I assume they accept BTC instead of BCash for their miners?

[Dabs]

Yes, they accept Bitcoin... (if they're not confused about which one it is.)

[OROBTC]

mempool spam *check
bch pump *check
tether/bitfinex fud *check
WO bears active *check
bitcointalk ddos *missing

get ready for bitcoin black friday sales, I see a bigger weekend dip coming! get them while they are cheap!

Ready!

NOT ready now!  Out of the country,  have to wait until we get back to Gringolandia to buy (if it goes down sharply).

[Ludwig Von]

Ok what are predictions for this weekend’s FUD bomb?   

The weekend is postponed to a later to be disclosed date... .

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

We got the triple cow indicator. How could it go down? You people really need to work on your TA skillz.

[xhomerx10]

Looks legit: Dabs has received one to test it

I asked for one, I have not yet received one. I just noticed it today, so I sent them an email asking for one. Let's see if they give it. I'll run it for a week or a month. Then either sell it or have it hosted in the North Pole with Santa.

"Shipping begins in March 2018" 

[itod]

This is starting to get an interesting turn, Slush denying he is involved:

https://twitter.com/slushcz/status/933362956393476096