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[Torque]

On a side note. roger/wu must have a shitload of bcash built up from their mining operations at this stage which they obviously are not selling as they seek to increase the price

Yes... and he collects more every rally. Imagine how he and his cronies can collude together, and with a coordinated effort they can short & dump all those coins like crazy right after they pump to the moon. They make money from their own supporters' misery.

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[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

On a side note. roger/wu must have a shitload of bcash built up from their mining operations at this stage which they obviously are not selling as they seek to increase the price

Yes... and he collects more every rally. Imagine how he and his cronies can collude together, and with a coordinated effort they can short & dump all those coins like crazy right after they pump to the moon. They make money from their own supporters' misery.

Whoever chooses to support those goons deserves getting it all the way up their Morty.

[sirazimuth]

Not sure why everybody moans about BCH, it’s obviously not going to make it long term but it’s free money & some of us are/were very happy Roger & Jihan have pumped it.

I’m not happy because I already sold it all !  It’s ok I still have all my Bgold and it’s coming along nicely. Not even thinking about Bdiamond.  

It has to say something about Bitcoin that on top of its astronomical rising value, a spin off, that was
given away for free,just for holding Bitcoin,can now sell for around $1500 .
(not to mention all the other smaller shitcoins players I wont mention)

And now the latest giveaway, airdrop, fork (wtf ya wanna call it) tokens, coins ,crypto (wtf you wanna call em)
are going for around $400 a pop. Now another two in the wings... (not to be named) WTF??
Its one thing to say this is  getting ridiculous,scam, yada yada, and who wouldnt agree?
But  these things are trading for real money, ferchrissakes! baffling I say..just baffling....
  
Can you imagine what would happen if Joe Public knew (or even believed FTM)
about all this free money sloshing around in the Bitcoin theater?  

Me  neither.....

jayzus, I love my BTCitcoin!!!

[gembitz]

Not sure why everybody moans about BCH, it’s obviously not going to make it long term but it’s free money & some of us are/were very happy Roger & Jihan have pumped it.

I’m not happy because I already sold it all !  It’s ok I still have all my Bgold and it’s coming along nicely. Not even thinking about Bdiamond.  

It has to say something about Bitcoin that on top of its astronomical rising value, a spin off, that was
given away for free,just for holding Bitcoin,can now sell for around $1500 .
(not to mention all the other smaller shitcoins players I wont mention)

And now the latest giveaway, airdrop, fork (wtf ya wanna call it) tokens, coins ,crypto (wtf you wanna call em)
are going for around $400 a pop. Now another two in the wings... (not to be named) WTF??
Its one thing to say this is  getting ridiculous,scam, yada yada, and who wouldnt agree?
But  these things are trading for real money, ferchrissakes! baffling I say..just baffling....
  
Can you imagine what would happen if Joe Public knew (or even believed FTM)
about all this free money sloshing around in the Bitcoin theater?  

Me  neither.....

jayzus, I love my BTCitcoin!!!

welcome to my world >.> now will greed or justice prevail stay chuuned

[Spaceman_Spiff_Original]

Not sure why everybody moans about BCH, it’s obviously not going to make it long term but it’s free money & some of us are/were very happy Roger & Jihan have pumped it.

I’m not happy because I already sold it all !  It’s ok I still have all my Bgold and it’s coming along nicely. Not even thinking about Bdiamond.  

It has to say something about Bitcoin that on top of its astronomical rising value, a spin off, that was
given away for free,just for holding Bitcoin,can now sell for around $1500 .
(not to mention all the other smaller shitcoins players I wont mention)

And now the latest giveaway, airdrop, fork (wtf ya wanna call it) tokens, coins ,crypto (wtf you wanna call em)
are going for around $400 a pop. Now another two in the wings... (not to be named) WTF??
Its one thing to say this is  getting ridiculous,scam, yada yada, and who wouldnt agree?
But  these things are trading for real money, ferchrissakes! baffling I say..just baffling....
  
Can you imagine what would happen if Joe Public knew (or even believed FTM)
about all this free money sloshing around in the Bitcoin theater?  

Me  neither.....

jayzus, I love my BTCitcoin!!!

Son of a b'tch I sold my BTG way too early/cheaply.

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Not sure why everybody moans about BCH, it’s obviously not going to make it long term but it’s free money & some of us are/were very happy Roger & Jihan have pumped it.

I’m not happy because I already sold it all !  It’s ok I still have all my Bgold and it’s coming along nicely. Not even thinking about Bdiamond.  

It has to say something about Bitcoin that on top of its astronomical rising value, a spin off, that was
given away for free,just for holding Bitcoin,can now sell for around $1500 .
(not to mention all the other smaller shitcoins players I wont mention)

And now the latest giveaway, airdrop, fork (wtf ya wanna call it) tokens, coins ,crypto (wtf you wanna call em)
are going for around $400 a pop. Now another two in the wings... (not to be named) WTF??
Its one thing to say this is  getting ridiculous,scam, yada yada, and who wouldnt agree?
But  these things are trading for real money, ferchrissakes! baffling I say..just baffling....
  
Can you imagine what would happen if Joe Public knew (or even believed FTM)
about all this free money sloshing around in the Bitcoin theater?  

Me  neither.....

jayzus, I love my BTCitcoin!!!

welcome to my world >.> now will greed or justice prevail stay chuuned

On an individual level, I'd go with justice. Money is too easy to make to bother with shit like BCash.

But given the flood of clowns on the internet that keep shilling even the most obvious scams, who knows. Probably greed, but it seems like Bitcoin will be the winner regardless in that scenario.

[GHCoins45]

what's up with the ETH? why this pump?

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

what's up with the ETH? why this pump?

Why not? It's been well below it's ATH for quite a while. Would be nice if it continued so I could dump some GPUs.

[BitcoinNewsMagazine]

what's up with the ETH? why this pump?

Traders may just have decided it is time to pump ETH. OTOH since many alts are going up I rather think it is diversification: people who own more bitcoin than they feel comfortable holding through a bear market are moving some to alts.

[sirazimuth]

what's up with the ETH? why this pump?

wrong thread dude....

[Torque]

what's up with the ETH? why this pump?

"Because tens/hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of smart contracts are being created by mega corporations and elite financial institutions all across the world using Ethereum's exclusive, bleeding edge smart contract technology!"

-said no one ever

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

what's up with the ETH? why this pump?

"Because tens/hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of smart contracts are being created by mega corporations and elite financial institutions all across the world using Ethereum's exclusive, bleeding edge smart contract technology!"

-said no one ever

To be fair, I don't think Ethereum ever targeted mega corporations or elite financial institutions with those.

[Torque]

what's up with the ETH? why this pump?

"Because tens/hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of smart contracts are being created by mega corporations and elite financial institutions all across the world using Ethereum's exclusive, bleeding edge smart contract technology!"

-said no one ever

To be fair, I don't think Ethereum ever targeted mega corporations or elite financial institutions with those.

Even worse. Smart contracts from Average Joe's mom's basement then?

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

what's up with the ETH? why this pump?

"Because tens/hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of smart contracts are being created by mega corporations and elite financial institutions all across the world using Ethereum's exclusive, bleeding edge smart contract technology!"

-said no one ever

To be fair, I don't think Ethereum ever targeted mega corporations or elite financial institutions with those.

Even worse. Smart contracts from Average Joe's mom's basement then?

Small to mid sized businesses I would guess.

[gembitz]

what's up with the ETH? why this pump?

Why not? It's been well below it's ATH for quite a while. Would be nice if it continued so I could dump some GPUs.

ETC under $20 vs. fake / hacked / censored ETH over $400? easy choice<<<

[gembitz]

what's up with the ETH? why this pump?

"Because tens/hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of smart contracts are being created by mega corporations and elite financial institutions all across the world using Ethereum's exclusive, bleeding edge smart contract technology!"

-said no one ever

To be fair, I don't think Ethereum ever targeted mega corporations or elite financial institutions with those.

Even worse. Smart contracts from Average Joe's mom's basement then?

drug markets..keep it real :-D weeee

[sirazimuth]

so anyway,

I love when checking BTC price on CCM and seeing price is WAY down...
until I hit refresh button... and then I'm like "oh thats better! "

works both ways though....


ok back to eth.... oh wait, nm....

[Torque]

what's up with the ETH? why this pump?

"Because tens/hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of smart contracts are being created by mega corporations and elite financial institutions all across the world using Ethereum's exclusive, bleeding edge smart contract technology!"

-said no one ever

To be fair, I don't think Ethereum ever targeted mega corporations or elite financial institutions with those.

Even worse. Smart contracts from Average Joe's mom's basement then?

Small to mid sized businesses I would guess.

So let's go down this rabbit hole. Reality and truth are buried deep somewhere down there.

How many small businesses? 10? 20?

And for what specific use case? A smart contract that did what exactly? Give example.

And for what benefit would this have for the small business to do this outside of the legal system?

Would this smart contract even be legally defensible in court in such case of a dispute? What if there is no legal recourse? Who would take that risk if it wasn't?

And what ROI benefit would there be that would justify buying ETH at $400+ to make this smart contract happen?

People that want to believe the ETH hype really need to walk through a few "theoretical use cases" of ETH smart contracts to even see if any of it makes any sense whatsoever, from a legal perspective, risk perspective, ROI perspective, etc., etc.

And it's not clear that the Ethereum blockchain or its tokens (as ETH traded on the exchanges) is even needed for 'smart contracts' functionality.

[Paashaas]

I laugh at all those (to fat) Americans running over each other, stealing, fighting for those ''Black Friday" deals, maxing out there 4th credit card 

Hordes of sheeple in action, enjoy!

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

what's up with the ETH? why this pump?

"Because tens/hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of smart contracts are being created by mega corporations and elite financial institutions all across the world using Ethereum's exclusive, bleeding edge smart contract technology!"

-said no one ever

To be fair, I don't think Ethereum ever targeted mega corporations or elite financial institutions with those.

Even worse. Smart contracts from Average Joe's mom's basement then?

Small to mid sized businesses I would guess.

So let's go down this rabbit hole. Reality and truth are buried deep somewhere down there.

How many small businesses? 10? 20?

And for what specific use case? A smart contract that did what exactly? Give example.

And for what benefit would this have outside of the legal system?

Would this smart contract even be legally defensible in court in such case of a dispute? What if there is no legal recourse? Who would take that risk if it wasn't?

And what ROI benefit would there be that would justify buying ETH at $400+ to make this smart contract happen?

People that want to believe the ETH hype really need to walk through a few "theoretical use cases" of ETH smart contracts to even see if any of it makes any sense whatsoever, from a legal perspective, risk perspective, ROI perspective, etc., etc.

And it's not clear that the Ethereum blockchain or its tokens (as ETH traded on the exchanges) is even needed for 'smart contracts' functionality.

It's actually clear that Ethereum is not needed for that type of functionality.

However, creating your own equivalent is something that wouldn't make sense unless you were already a large corporation and had the funds to solve that problem yourself in a more customized and efficient way.

Meanwhile, the main benefit of Ethereum over Bitcoin (as I see it at least for now), is that it allows much simpler and more efficient collection of funds and allocation of tokens.

And while there's probably hundreds of absolute garbage and/or outright scam tokens around on the market right now, the basic principle still applies.

It will probably still take some time, but I can see some serious companies being birthed from the utility side of platforms like Ethereum that would've had a very hard time to even be conceived without those.


As far as the law is concerned, I don't see why a clearly defined contract should not hold in law depending on what the application of it is. But I'm not a lawyer so that's not something that I can even speculate about given how absurd some of the loopholes over there are.