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Question: How much of your corn do you plan on cashing out in the next massive bull run?
None - 21 (18.8%)
1-10% - 15 (13.4%)
11-20% - 13 (11.6%)
21-30% - 16 (14.3%)
31-40% - 4 (3.6%)
41-50% - 12 (10.7%)
51-60% - 8 (7.1%)
61-70% - 5 (4.5%)
71-80% - 3 (2.7%)
81-90% - 2 (1.8%)
91-99% - 3 (2.7%)
100% - 10 (8.9%)
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July 10, 2019, 01:39:40 AM

is it "halving" or "halvening"?
enquiring minds need to know....

I think it's a Shrodinger's cat thing, so both simultaneously.
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July 10, 2019, 01:43:33 AM

I must not chase gap ups.

Said the guy who didn't buy at $290 after the run from $210. He was right too - for awhile.

Huh?  You talking to me?
unless he got his quotes wrong...it happens.



You tell me, mr legendary.

I wouldn't be asking if I knew, Mr Member.
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July 10, 2019, 01:46:37 AM

The next halving has had no effect on the price - how could it since it hasn't happened yet? its a year away, so an argument can't even be made that its speculation effect of increased halving price.

Arguments can be made; they are made all the time, including an argument that efficient markets "price in" future known events, so since the halvening is a known event, the question becomes a matter of how much it is priced in rather than whether it is priced in.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Let's face it. Bright/Dumb/Clueless/Newbie...at this point of adoption of Bitcoin we are just kinda 'winging it', as they say.

There might be a certain amount of inability to know, but we are not flying blindly.

We are investing in an asset class that has an asymmetric probability of return, so even if matters do not play out exactly as we hope or as much as we wished, we are facing an issue in which we are likely to become rich as fuck, even if the matter is not guaranteed.


Some of us have already gotten rich as fuck off of this matter, and even though the continued getting rich as fuck is not guaranteed, those of us who stay into bitcoin and continue to accumulate and hodl btc are likely taking advantage of an imbalance of information, and the gullibility of the stupid ass fence sitters who are scared to get in or the no coiners who refuse to get in.  Of course, there still are a decent number of folks who are not sufficiently educated about bitcoin and who will come around to investing into bitcoin, and as early adopters, we are likely to be advantaged by their late entrances, too.


Just not enough info.

I think that there has been enough information for a while, but some people have not been sufficiently introduced.  Other people are confused by the misinformation, yet good information is available for anyone ready, willing and able to engage in due diligent research into the matter and hopefully don't get too distracted by bad information in the process.


Most of us I think are running on what info we think we may glean from all this and our 'gut' feelings on Bitcoin and such.

I doubt that you are fairly characterizing people in this space, even though you might be attempting to characterizing your own sentiments about it and then projecting those sentiments onto the rest of us.

Chump or Champ.

We will be the first to know I guess.

I will grant you that there are some people who are more on the frontline than  others, and surely these are still early days, but again, I doubt that the level of uncertainty is anything near what you are expressing.  You seem to be stuck in 2011 (or you are talking that way), and a lot of questions have been answered and a lot of infrastructure has been built and a lot of networking effects have advanced since 2011.


Maybe you are in a time warp, searing?  Snap out of it!!!!!!!!!



Searing.  I must say that it was for your own good, and someone had to do it.


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July 10, 2019, 01:47:26 AM

The next halving has had no effect on the price - how could it since it hasn't happened yet? its a year away, so an argument can't even be made that its speculation effect of increased halving price.

Arguments can be made; they are made all the time, including an argument that efficient markets "price in" future known events, so since the halvening is a known event, the question becomes a matter of how much it is priced in rather than whether it is priced in.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

is it "halving" or "halvening"?
enquiring minds need to know....


halving-from an old english word (Middle english, possibly the proper way to write/say it)
halvening-sounds cool (like 'quickening')
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July 10, 2019, 01:48:42 AM

The next halving has had no effect on the price - how could it since it hasn't happened yet? its a year away, so an argument can't even be made that its speculation effect of increased halving price.

Arguments can be made; they are made all the time, including an argument that efficient markets "price in" future known events, so since the halvening is a known event, the question becomes a matter of how much it is priced in rather than whether it is priced in.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

is it "halving" or "halvening"?
enquiring minds need to know....


Either one... we all know what is being referred to, no?

is it "halving" or "halvening"?
enquiring minds need to know....

I think it's a Shrodinger's cat thing, so both simultaneously.

Better yet..... in other words, exactamente, yefi!!!!
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July 10, 2019, 01:50:45 AM

I must not chase gap ups.

Said the guy who didn't buy at $290 after the run from $210. He was right too - for awhile.

Huh?  You talking to me?
unless he got his quotes wrong...it happens.



You tell me, mr legendary.

I wouldn't be asking if I knew, Mr Member

Ok, you got me. My answer is both mean the same thing when talking about bitcoin. Happy?
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July 10, 2019, 01:52:49 AM

Suddenly, we are approaching almost a 2/3 share of ALL cryptoassets.

maybe.. "We are back, we are baaaack, we are baaaaack"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgnlzesChRc

Don't get distracted by that watered down referent... Yeah, they can put all kinds of coins into it, but the reality of the matter is that bitcoin is king, even if they put a bunch of other crap in there that even could cause BTC to shrink to some minor percentage of the total... They will probably put libra and the dollar in there some day too.  So who the fuck cares regarding the exact number?
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Ok, you got me. My answer is both mean the same thing when talking about bitcoin. Happy?

dude... it wasn't meant as a put down. I honestly wanted to know.
But I can't say I blame you if you thought I was being snarky... cuz I usually am.
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I must not chase gap ups.

Said the guy who didn't buy at $290 after the run from $210. He was right too - for awhile.

Huh?  You talking to me?
unless he got his quotes wrong...it happens.



You tell me, mr legendary.

I wouldn't be asking if I knew, Mr Member

Ok, you got me. My answer is both mean the same thing when talking about bitcoin. Happy?

dude... it wasn't meant as a put down. I honestly wanted to know.
But I can't say I blame you if you thought I was being snarky... cuz I usually am.

  There can be only one.


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  There can be only one.




ok, thank phuck we got that sorted....
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is it "halving" or "halvening"?
enquiring minds need to know....


It's halfling.
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July 10, 2019, 02:09:51 AM

Later wo bros... Gonna go fly my drone now and spy on the neighbors.
....2nd thought, I'd better not.
Drinking and drone flying not a good combo....
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July 10, 2019, 02:14:36 AM

nothing to see here

$1x,xxx bitcoin, same old ordinary boring ass shit. 

Totally normal.
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The Bitcoin and Egretia whales are colluding.You heard it here first....

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July 10, 2019, 02:40:45 AM

I envy those that can actually trade the short term waves with enough consistent certainty to make a better long term profit than just holding. I'm not sure I've ever actually met one of those mythical traders, they might be unicorns. Grin

If aiming realistically and conservatively, it doesn't take a unicorn to do that. I guess more than a few such people are reading and writing these very pages. It doesn't even take a WO peep (well, just as a brainwasher maybe). Case in point: JJG's mom could do that almost in her sleep, but decided not to be bothered cause she prefers to enjoy life.
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Something really strange happened today. I came home from work, hit the treadmill, then collapsed on the couch, exhausted and dizzy. I fell into a strange trancelike state. Suddenly, the sunlight coming in my windows turned bright red, and I heard a booming, almost deafening voice:

BEHOLD! I AM KARHU!

Me: WTF is going on...

SILENCE! YOU WILL LISTEN AND OBEY.

Me: Okay...

THE BLOOD OF THE BULLS HAS SATIATED MY HUNGER. I HAVE RETURNED, AND WITH MORE POWER THAN EVER BEFORE!

AFTER YEARS OF PAIN AND DARKNESS, I WILL NOW REWARD MY FOLLOWERS WITH ALL MY GLORY AND WONDER!

BUT FIRST, YOU SHALL BEAR WITNESS TO THE THREE SIGNS:

1. AFTER HIS LONG REIGN IN THIS WORLD, THE FEROCIOUS BEAR SPIRIT SHALL SHOW HIMSELF TO YOU IN HIS LLAMA FORM ONCE AGAIN. THIS IS THE OMEN OF HIS PASSING.

Me: A bear llama?

2. A GREAT MAYOR SHALL RETURN TO HIS PEOPLE. ONLY THEN WILL YOU BE PREPARED FOR WHAT'S TO COME.

3. WHEN THE VALUE OF THE MOONCOIN REACHES TEN THOUSAND SCORE, YOU WILL MAKE A FINAL SACRIFICE TO ME.

Me: You want us to sell our bitcoin at $100,000?

NO! KARHU NOW DEMANDS BEAR BLOOD.

Me: So you want us to buy more bitcoin at $100,000? That's crazy!

YOU MUST PROVE YOUR FAITH TO KARHU. ONLY THE MOST FAITHFUL AND RIGHTEOUS COINERS WILL BE REWARDED.

DO AS I COMMAND, AND I WILL BRING MY GLORIOUS BITCOIN KINGDOM UNTO YOU! EVERY FAITHFUL COINER SHALL RECEIVE 72 NASTY, FILTHY SLUTS. FOR EVERY RIGHTEOUS COINER, THE LAMBOS AND BLOW WILL FLOW LIKE WATER.

Me: That doesn't even make any sense.

SILENCE! NOW GO FORTH, AND DELIVER MY MESSAGE TO YOUR FELLOW WALL OBSERVERS!

At that point, I must've passed out. My wife found me asleep on the couch. I'm still trying to make sense of all this...

And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Hodler: that whosoever believeth in Bitcoin should not perish, but have eternal life.


He that believeth in Bitcoin is not condemned; but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only Coin.

And this is the condemnation, that light has come into the world, and men loved Fiat rather than Bitcoin, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the Bitcoin, neither cometh to the Bitcoin, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the Bitcoin, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in Lambos.
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I envy those that can actually trade the short term waves with enough consistent certainty to make a better long term profit than just holding. I'm not sure I've ever actually met one of those mythical traders, they might be unicorns. Grin

If aiming realistically and conservatively, it doesn't take a unicorn to do that. I guess more than a few such people are reading and writing these very pages. It doesn't even take a WO peep (well, just as a brainwasher maybe). Case in point: JJG's mom could do that almost in her sleep, but decided not to be bothered cause she prefers to enjoy life.

If you can learn the difference between a bear market and a bull market (hint: we are in a bull market) then you can trade for a profit.  Dollar cost average in in a bull market. Dollar cost average out in a bear market.

If you can’t tell the difference, then sit on your hands.

This is the opposite of JJGs advice because you buy on the way up and sell on the way down.  The difference is JJGs system doesn’t require you to make a judgment call. Mine does.
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I envy those that can actually trade the short term waves with enough consistent certainty to make a better long term profit than just holding. I'm not sure I've ever actually met one of those mythical traders, they might be unicorns. Grin

If aiming realistically and conservatively, it doesn't take a unicorn to do that. I guess more than a few such people are reading and writing these very pages. It doesn't even take a WO peep (well, just as a brainwasher maybe). Case in point: JJG's mom could do that almost in her sleep, but decided not to be bothered cause she prefers to enjoy life.

Gotta admit to the humor, which caused me to wonder, what I had said, exactly. 

I thought that I had said that my mom gave up on BTC trading in around 2015 or 2016 after making a few failed attempts, and decided not to follow my system, to mostly HODL and she kind of became inspired by my mostly HODLing BTC, as well... but she decided to shave off some profits from her BTC after the price began to drop from $19,666 and she made her most profitable sale in around the $14k arena in late 2017. 

I would conclude that she seemed to have made a lot of money by a kind of "winging it" whereby she sold a decent amount of coins at nearly 30x the cost of her initial investment.. She did not sell all of her BTC investment, but instead she sold about 1/6th of her then holdings... or something like that.  I would hardly call that BTC trading. 

Could have been a fluke, but surely such a willingness to HODL situation becomes a lot easier, when the BTC prices had gone shooting up in 2017 and her actual HODL had lasted long enough for her to realize a decent sell spot for a portion of her BTC, even though she carried it out after BTC's December 2017 price peak.

Seems like I tell so many partial renditions of this story that even I get confused about which parts of the story I may have missed.  I had been thinking that up until now in total she had sold nearly 30% of her total BTC stash, but I am not really sure.  But I am pretty sure that the most profitable portion of her BTC sales was the one that she sold 1/6th of her BTC holdings at around $14k in late 2017.

There was also a kind of repeated harping theme from me towards my mom in the past 9 months or so in which I was reminding my mom that she was becoming more and more elderly and she better figure out some kind of a BTC cashing out plan to start to sell her BTC at a rate of about 1% per quarter.  She did not completely listen to me, because she delayed and tried to time the market because she did not want to sell any BTC in the sub $6k territory, if she could avoid it, but I think that my suggestion that she should liquidate some BTC had helped her to shave off about 3-4% of her stash around $11k since she had not sold any BTC during the whole of 2018 until just in the past few weeks or so when BTC reached $11k the first time this year.
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Just staggered in  Cool

3g of blow with my younger bro!

13k Mother Fucker - So fucked up right now  Cool
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