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Question: How far will this leg take us?
$110K - 9 (8.3%)
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August 02, 2019, 06:08:02 AM
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And back from my beach holiday  Wink It is so refreshing to see that we are well above 10K again! During the holiday I tried to look at the price as little as possible, but I couldn't resist. Yeah, I saw that dumbass whale dumping from 10200 to 9500. Another super duper clever shorter on Bitmex, I guess. Anyway,  July is traditionally a weak month for the price. So, staying above 9K and even better above 10K is a strong bull sing for the coming months. With the support slowly but steadily building up, the chances for a plunge below 9K are getting slimmer with each day. Recalling that earlier this year we were hovering on the rim of 3100, this price development is simply amazing. To be honest, I was thinking that reaching and staying above 10K would be possible sometime around the halving or even later. Now I am thinking that breaking the ATH in the worst case scenario is due to arrive around the halving. But most probably, Bitcoin will surprise me again with an earlier ATH (may be this is the beginning of the bull run for it).  Wink
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https://twitter.com/ChartsBtc/status/1156934579040559104

We are always complaining about the price ..., we are like children, there is no reason to complain, we are doing well. Wink

Good morning, WO,s

We can't satisfy ourself,we look for more and more even if we already doing better than before.

I guess we need to start practicing yoga in WO itself. Cheesy
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August 02, 2019, 06:48:01 AM

Hmm...

I wonder what will happen in August?!  Roll Eyes

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I dont agree we are 2017, I dont see why that should be.   Halvening is next year, I'd rather place it next to a dollar index chart but I know 2017 had a very steady decline in DXY and not so much this year though I'am bearish on it, nothing big to move this year.   Theres other reasons for BTC maybe its tariffs and sanctions.
Gosh.. never ceases to amaze me how some members can become so damned bored based on a little bit of BTC consolidation.

The rises in price can only really be built after consolidation and the sponge wringing of loose hands that each sell causes.   Consolidation is bullish really, just going sideways in the thousands whichever thousand that might be this month I find quite bullish.   Not that the price has to go up but all these prices are high to me so staying in this area is not believable to many who doubted or wrote off Bitcoin many years ago.


Guess what happens when the gold price spikes - there is a flood of new supply. As I have been repeatedly saying over the past 5 years, there are a ton of gold mines on care and maintenance waiting for this exact moment.


Yep of course, every commodity will open up new supply when its price rises.  I saw the failed gold trend in 2011 and then failed to act or retract investment enough, an expensive lesson for me.   A mine I know of with costs over $1,500 did not evaporate but fell into Chinese hands and I have no doubts they will reopen that mine and may even be producing at a loss to sell to the state reserves in the command economy as only China can.    I still have shares in the failed enterprise, I really doubt they ever pay me a penny but they are obligated to send me accounts every two years so I got that for my money I guess :p I'll know when China goes nuclear on gold production at these high costs.

   A properly adjusted market will bring on more supply always, oil has the Canada oil sands just waiting and so much available at higher costs.   Bitcoin dynamic is really not the same with its fixed supply.   Its far more prone to these accelerated rises that will not back off, its made worse by shorts trying to guess future pricing.   BTC can also fall alot as its subject to so much speculation but an expansion in its base supply is not one of its problems.

Gold especially is prone to efficiency concerns.   Theres a big link to oil prices in Gold production also as alot of gold fields are available (especially as permafrost retreats in higher global temperate shifts) if enough dirt can be moved and sifted through water sluicing and various means to retrieve and refine raw dirt.     Theres good reasons for gold to have links to the economy long term it seems, loose money produces an incentive to invest in many things but gold would be one of them.  
Giganatic reserves of gold suddenly becoming available isnt a giant concern except where central banks flush their reserves into the main market, but this is like trying to turn the tide; even with a bulldozer you cannot change fundamentals.   Bank of England flushed their reserves, Italy might do it in future and far future I've always expected the Fort knox gold to be released at some pressure point though its hard to estimate.
France has too much respect for de Gaulle's leadership and rhetoric involving gold post war, its likely kept as security afaik.   China and Russia are the worlds largest buyers of gold for ten years now, China also now the worlds largest producer.
   Germany still bares the scars of loose money from the 1920's and even at the centre of the EURO I doubt they sell or their nations population allows politics to do so plus being one of the worlds largest exporters makes it an unlikely requirement.   The Swiss dont need to sell gold for similar reasons and again their population is quite close to wanting gold backing to currency last I read.
  Asia is positive on gold on average afaik, cant think of many other big holders who would or could sell to alter or drop prices but gold is bullish for decades forward afaik.  
 Gold imo is inverse to Bond expansion over 30 years
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August 02, 2019, 07:25:44 AM
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Just gonna leave this here

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August 02, 2019, 07:26:00 AM

decentralization does not exist, bitcoin manages by Bitmain, and all three types

https://twitter.com/Aleksan00743929/status/1157182235667292160
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August 02, 2019, 07:45:27 AM

JayJuanGee has been identified as the #1 terror threat facing America for believing the conspiracy theory that the government, media, and banks are not controlled by the evil cult of Judaism:

https://nypost.com/2019/08/01/fbi-conspiracy-theory-extremists-are-a-terror-threat/

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August 02, 2019, 07:53:28 AM

Just gonna leave this here


Unexpected things happens at unexpected time. Wink

But now expecting it.
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August 02, 2019, 07:58:49 AM
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I don't know what I love more: puppies, rainbows, or knowing that all humans are created equal and all life on earth should be cherished as the divine gift that it is.

Puppies are quite cute roach, I definitely agree with you there. Also, you are right in that there is nothing as stunning as a beautiful, fully-formed rainbow, the kind that looks like it illuminates half the sky, and if one were to stare intently at it, they could almost see the pot of gold where the rainbow appears to touch down. Rainbows in a way are metaphorical of life itself, as they magically come into existence under the right circumstances, create wonderment for all to see, and are ultimately only temporary.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-01/berkeley-couple-support-their-children-aged-4-8-transition

Clown world.  Some horrifically obese woman has a fat 8 year old daughter and the daughter decides that because it's not an attractive girl, it wants to be a 'transgender boy' instead.  This reminds me of the fish world where in some species of fish, if the females reach a certain size they literally change sex into a male and then start attacking other males and trying to claim the females as their territory.  

In other words, tolerating fat women at all is nothing but trouble.  Just don't marry or reproduce with giant, hog looking women and we won't have these problems.  They will fail to spread their fat genes and no longer exist to drag down the species.  No hog women like this exist in places like Japan or China because they refused to marry them.
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August 02, 2019, 08:26:53 AM
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I could only say this is reality and that thing have changes a lot.

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August 02, 2019, 08:40:49 AM

Good morning WO!
Five figures continued...
Observing @ $10,520
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Guess what happens when the gold price spikes - there is a flood of new supply. As I have been repeatedly saying over the past 5 years, there are a ton of gold mines on care and maintenance waiting for this exact moment.

That's not really how it works.  A lot of people just mined only the high grade areas they control when price dropped, essentially cannibalizing their business.  That means the price has to rise even higher to make it worthwhile reopening an entirely low grade site.  Or maybe it's not worthwhile reopening at all unless the price went completely astronomical.  The oil industry probably has the same problems.

I've always expected the Fort knox gold to be released at some pressure point though its hard to estimate.

What planet do you live on?  Looking at charts of outflows over time, I estimate the amount of gold America holds is between 0 to 2000 tons max.  There is no giant horde of US gold unless they've managed to repo it back from whatever Jews stole it, or unless they stole some large amounts from countries like Libya and others.
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August 02, 2019, 09:00:15 AM
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You don't have to play the whole stock market, and to increase leverage, you can use puts/calls.
Bitcoin itself trades more like an option (on a new financial system, I guess).



Trading options on stocks/indices is a 90% sure fire loser over the long term. It was similar even 30 years ago when the market was human traded (mostly), but it is far more so now.

The reason is that options have an expiry date. The 'market' will always conspire to extract the greatest amount from holders of options at expiry. The vast majority of traders still hold to expiry, and always will. For instruments with no expiry date, the market imposes a time holding cost (above and beyond the price of initial purchase).

There would be no market at all if this were not the case, because the expiries and holding costs are what fund the costs and profits of the market makers/whole financial machine/industry.


BTC (like gold ) could be called an option , but it is without expiry date and holding cost.
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August 02, 2019, 09:06:20 AM

Alita the Battle Angel.

I thought it was funny how they got a Mestizo girl to act the part and changed her into a CG white girl for the movie.  It was like another shoah.  Or maybe they used a cartoonification form of generalized 'beauty' and it just so happens the universal standard of that is symmetrical and white.  Because what purpose would an ugly superhero have?  A superhero is supposed to exemplify the best genes.
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August 02, 2019, 09:13:56 AM

Good morning WO!
Five figures continued...
Observing @ $10,520
I lost $200USD Observing....
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August 02, 2019, 09:37:17 AM

I lost $200USD Observing....
What do you mean?
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I lost $200USD Observing....
What do you mean?
I was a bit harmed for my wrong decision I was financially hurt because thought it was wrong.

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I was a bit harmed for my wrong decision I was financially hurt because thought it was wrong.
If you are talking about swing trading that that's not a huge lose at all.
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I was a bit harmed for my wrong decision I was financially hurt because thought it was wrong.
If you are talking about swing trading that that's not a huge lose at all.

I thought maybe he would go down further because he had changed his course and made the wrong decision Although one such as the other common loss!
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