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September 27, 2019, 07:19:31 PM

I found the article on the global electricity network the Chinese want to build.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/energy/china-unveils-proposal-50-trillion-global-electricity-network-n548376

Western politicians need to get off their ass and stop fighting about coal before the Chinese build the global network and dominate the global energy industry.

It is shameful that China is already the global leader in clean energy.
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September 27, 2019, 07:30:04 PM
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CME Bitcoin Futures calendar.  Current contract settles on Monday.  

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September 27, 2019, 07:35:26 PM

CME Bitcoin Futures calendar. Trades don’t settle until Monday unfortunately so I don’t expect any rallies until after Monday. 



Is there actual evidence for this correlation? A genuine question.
At the moment, let me be doubtful.
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Funny.  I edited my post while you were responding, because I decided I did not have evidence for it.  You were quite right to challenge this point.

I will go away and research it because I would like an answer too.  I will let you know what I find, if anything.
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CME Bitcoin Futures calendar. Trades don’t settle until Monday unfortunately so I don’t expect any rallies until after Monday. 



Is there actual evidence for this correlation? A genuine question.
At the moment, let me be doubtful.



the evidence is empirical..

https://www.trustnodes.com/2019/09/22/its-expiry-friday-will-bitcoins-price-fall-once-more  (sorry to repost it)

https://kryptografen.com/news/are-institutional-investors-manipulating-the-bitcoin-price/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2019/09/25/striking-bitcoin-research-points-to-price-manipulation/#4d295c425c2b
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September 27, 2019, 07:57:38 PM

I found the article on the global electricity network the Chinese want to build.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/energy/china-unveils-proposal-50-trillion-global-electricity-network-n548376

Western politicians need to get off their ass and stop fighting about coal before the Chinese build the global network and dominate the global energy industry.

It is shameful that China is already the global leader in clean energy.

Very good project that will connect all the green resources in the world, the southern sun and the north winds. but domination is scary, very scary when it comes to energy.
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September 27, 2019, 08:02:55 PM



That could be the coolest picture I have seen.
Trump could be thinking about changing his position about climate change.
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September 27, 2019, 08:30:44 PM

Greta should know what she is talking about then.

Edit although apparently the above claim is a bit misleading as the father is “distantly related”.  Many Swedes are likely “distantly related” to each other. 

https://heavy.com/news/2019/09/greta-thunbergs-family-parents/

Here childhood has been stolen? nha..



that must be the dumbest pic I've seen in a long while

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September 27, 2019, 08:39:12 PM
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Targeting a bounce within next 5 days to hit underside of triangle @ $9500 - $9600.  

But hang onto your hats if we blow through the bottom side of the triangle, cause we might blow through the topside too.  

This is the relief rally post-Bakkt now that everyone has realized the world is not ending.

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September 27, 2019, 09:11:53 PM

I found the article on the global electricity network the Chinese want to build.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/energy/china-unveils-proposal-50-trillion-global-electricity-network-n548376

Western politicians need to get off their ass and stop fighting about coal before the Chinese build the global network and dominate the global energy industry.

It is shameful that China is already the global leader in clean energy.

Really? "China is the largest producer and consumer of coal in the world and is the largest user of coal-derived electricity."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_China
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China’s use of coal is absolutely horrific.  

But you can be the world’s worst coal offender and world’s clean energy leader at the same time....

China is a big, complex place.  It does a lot of contradictory things.
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September 27, 2019, 09:17:53 PM

LOL, Friday 21:00 UTC markets closed in NY and Chicago and Bitcoin is going up.  Grin Grin
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September 27, 2019, 09:19:07 PM

Looking to challenge local top at $8,121

C’mon baby pump it.  

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Local top broken. Observing $8,140.  

Cmon baby bounce.

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Greta should know what she is talking about then.

Edit although apparently the above claim is a bit misleading as the father is “distantly related”.  Many Swedes are likely “distantly related” to each other. 

https://heavy.com/news/2019/09/greta-thunbergs-family-parents/

Here childhood has been stolen? nha..



This pic tells it all (Time is the best as always!):  Wink

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Greta should know what she is talking about then.

Edit although apparently the above claim is a bit misleading as the father is “distantly related”.  Many Swedes are likely “distantly related” to each other.  

https://heavy.com/news/2019/09/greta-thunbergs-family-parents/

Here childhood has been stolen? nha..



that must be the dumbest pic I've seen in a long while

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Ask yourselves this: Why is she popular and who benefits from using her as a political tool? Another useful idiot, as Yuri Bezmenov would say... In Germany we already have talks of an upcoming CO2 tax...
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Why Greta Thunberg triggers the troglodytes among us

The internet has it in for Greta Thunberg, or at least it seems that way sometimes. In spending any time probing the blather of bottom-feeders though, there's a danger of amplifying it. A risk of implying that it's common, ubiquitous even. It isn't. The teardowns and tirades aren't everywhere: in my feed they certainly don't outweigh all the love and praise, the admiration and all the go you good things.But there's an underbelly. A cruel and creepy world where it's apparently perfectly fine — nay, encouraged — for adults, generally (but not exclusively) male adults, to shred a 16-year-old to pieces. Greta ticks all the boxes. She triggers the troglodytes among us in some wholly predictable ways.

The voice of a generation?

Greta Thunberg inspired a global movement for climate action, but some haven't welcomed her message. She's a girl. To say our culture hates girls is, of course, an overstatement. Afterall, we enjoy looking at girls and having them sing and shimmy for us. We quite like it, say, when they swim fast enough to earn "us" a gold medal.We especially like them consuming our products and chiming about them on social media. But we largely abhor girl culture. Things that girls like, things that girls are interested in, are routinely devalued and considered as trivial. If a book, a band, a film, a foodstuff has a disproportionate teen-girl following — think Twilight, think Taylor Swift, think Billie Eilish — it's rendered culturally unimportant at best and as vacuous crap at worst.

The moment girls scream and cry over something is the moment our culture has decided it's wholly unimportant. She's not just a girl — she's a girl with Asperger's. She's not just a girl though. We like certain 16-year-olds. Ideally, ones that look like they're on the cusp of blossoming womanhood. Barely legal in porn parlance. The spotlight for girls in our culture shines on the ones that are a tad salacious. This won't go unpunished though. Let's not pretend being sexual doesn't come at a cost; let's not pretend that double standards don't abound — but it's the mandate. If we're going to pay her any attention, the least she can do is offer us something enticing to look at. To smile for us. To not be too strident. To play nice.

Greta Thunberg isn't a 16-year-old doing sexiness for us. She's not performing femininity, she's not exchanging eroticism for a platform to talk about the environment. She's a soft-spoken girl with bare skin and pigtails. And because this packaging is so unfamiliar on the world stage — because we have no real track record of paying attention to girls who look like this — it's acceptable to ignore her.  She's not performing adult womanliness in the way we expect, so we downplay her as just a child. And we don't consider children as sources of authority, of expertise. They're naive, and their words — their wants, their hopes — get discounted.

But she's not just a girl. She's a girl with Asperger's. And Asperger's is commonly perceived as a disability. And the disability frame means she's not neurodiverse. Her differences aren't what make her different — make her amazing, rather. She's rejected as fanatical. As a single-minded obsessive. As someone who keeps banging on about the same thing over and over again after everyone else has left the room.  This enables Greta to be brushed-off as not comprehending nuance, of not "getting" social cues. As failing to understand how the world really works.  As being not only naive, but as a bit "broken". Certainly too broken — according to haters on the internet — to be listened to about policy matters.  Greta is the ghost of a very dismal Christmas future

But she's not just a girl with Asperger's. She's a Swedish girl with Asperger's.  In lots of ways, we quite like the Swedes.

'Being different is a superpower'

Swedish climate change activist Greta Thunberg has hit out at critics, describing her Asperger's diagnosis as a "superpower" that she has never tried to "hide behind".  We like their noir novels and their flat-pack furniture. Their ABBA, their Lykke Li. Their cosy cocoa-and-cake culture. And we often find appeal in much of their public policy. Appeal right up until the point where we have to ponder paying for it.  Then, abruptly, Sweden is slammed as a socialist dystopia.  When a girl from Sweden tells the world all the ways that they are failing the planet, all the toil we're neglecting to do for the earth, she's dismissed as a meddler.   She's a person — and not just a person, but a mere girl — who's looking down at us, who's judging us.

If we can work out ways to disregard her — to use her age and accent and Asperger's against her — then her scowling and judgment doesn't matter.

In considering the source as less than, we can rationalise not paying proper attention. Afterall, the judgment of our inferiors matters little.  But she's not just a girl, with Asperger's, who's Swedish. For the kicker, she's a girl, with Asperger's, who's Swedish and who's asking us to do more than just separate our rubbish.  And this is what it's really about. The pigtails and soft voice takes a backseat to the true problem with Greta Thunberg: she reminds us of the litany of our collective failings.  
Not just about how we don't care enough, but that we're not doing enough. That we're not outspoken enough. That we're not sacrificing.

That even if we acknowledge that there's a climate calamity, we're not forgoing anything for it.  Just as we hate vegans because they remind us that there's a dark cost — paid by animals every bit as sentient as our fawned-over puppies — to that burger, Greta is the ghost of a very dismal Christmas future.  It's equal parts predictable and reprehensible that a girl gets targeted because she's saying and doing what we're too — variously — lazy, complacent and greedy to do ourselves.

But the reasons she bristles, the reasons that a soft-spoken 16-year-old Swede has the capacity to stir such defensiveness and prompt such venom, is testimony to the fact that she's doing an awful lot right.

https://abc.net.au/news/2019-09-28/unpacking-twitter-tirades-why-are-we-triggered-by-greta-thunberg/11545952
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I have a 6kWh Solar panel system going in next Wednesday. So I am doing my part Smiley

Long way to go though. From August 2019, which I posted before.

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Why Greta Thunberg triggers the troglodytes among us

The internet has it in for Greta Thunberg, or at least it seems that way sometimes.
In spending any time probing the blather of bottom-feeders though, there's a danger of amplifying it. A risk of implying that it's common, ubiquitous even. It isn't.

The teardowns and tirades aren't everywhere: in my feed they certainly don't outweigh all the love and praise, the admiration and all the go you good things.But there's an underbelly. A cruel and creepy world where it's apparently perfectly fine — nay, encouraged — for adults, generally (but not exclusively) male adults, to shred a 16-year-old to pieces.

Greta ticks all the boxes. She triggers the troglodytes among us in some wholly predictable ways.

The voice of a generation?

Greta Thunberg inspired a global movement for climate action, but some haven't welcomed her message.
She's a girl. To say our culture hates girls is, of course, an overstatement. Afterall, we enjoy looking at girls and having them sing and shimmy for us.

We quite like it, say, when they swim fast enough to earn "us" a gold medal.We especially like them consuming our products and chiming about them on social media. But we largely abhor girl culture.
Things that girls like, things that girls are interested in, are routinely devalued and considered as trivial.
If a book, a band, a film, a foodstuff has a disproportionate teen-girl following — think Twilight, think Taylor Swift, think Billie Eilish — it's rendered culturally unimportant at best and as vacuous crap at worst.

The moment girls scream and cry over something is the moment our culture has decided it's wholly unimportant.
She's not just a girl — she's a girl with Asperger's. She's not just a girl though.

We like certain 16-year-olds. Ideally, ones that look like they're on the cusp of blossoming womanhood. Barely legal in porn parlance. The spotlight for girls in our culture shines on the ones that are a tad salacious.

This won't go unpunished though. Let's not pretend being sexual doesn't come at a cost; let's not pretend that double standards don't abound — but it's the mandate. If we're going to pay her any attention, the least she can do is offer us something enticing to look at. To smile for us. To not be too strident. To play nice.

Greta Thunberg isn't a 16-year-old doing sexiness for us. She's not performing femininity, she's not exchanging eroticism for a platform to talk about the environment.

She's a soft-spoken girl with bare skin and pigtails. And because this packaging is so unfamiliar on the world stage — because we have no real track record of paying attention to girls who look like this — it's acceptable to ignore her.

She's not performing adult womanliness in the way we expect, so we downplay her as just a child. And we don't consider children as sources of authority, of expertise.

They're naive, and their words — their wants, their hopes — get discounted.

But she's not just a girl. She's a girl with Asperger's. And Asperger's is commonly perceived as a disability.

And the disability frame means she's not neurodiverse. Her differences aren't what make her different — make her amazing, rather.

She's rejected as fanatical. As a single-minded obsessive. As someone who keeps banging on about the same thing over and over again after everyone else has left the room.

This enables Greta to be brushed-off as not comprehending nuance, of not "getting" social cues. As failing to understand how the world really works.

As being not only naive, but as a bit "broken". Certainly too broken — according to haters on the internet — to be listened to about policy matters.

Greta is the ghost of a very dismal Christmas future

But she's not just a girl with Asperger's. She's a Swedish girl with Asperger's.

In lots of ways, we quite like the Swedes.

'Being different is a superpower'

Swedish climate change activist Greta Thunberg has hit out at critics, describing her Asperger's diagnosis as a "superpower" that she has never tried to "hide behind".
We like their noir novels and their flat-pack furniture. Their ABBA, their Lykke Li. Their cosy cocoa-and-cake culture.

And we often find appeal in much of their public policy. Appeal right up until the point where we have to ponder paying for it.

Then, abruptly, Sweden is slammed as a socialist dystopia.

When a girl from Sweden tells the world all the ways that they are failing the planet, all the toil we're neglecting to do for the earth, she's dismissed as a meddler.

She's a person — and not just a person, but a mere girl — who's looking down at us, who's judging us.

If we can work out ways to disregard her — to use her age and accent and Asperger's against her — then her scowling and judgment doesn't matter.

In considering the source as less than, we can rationalise not paying proper attention. Afterall, the judgment of our inferiors matters little.

But she's not just a girl, with Asperger's, who's Swedish. For the kicker, she's a girl, with Asperger's, who's Swedish and who's asking us to do more than just separate our rubbish.

And this is what it's really about. The pigtails and soft voice takes a backseat to the true problem with Greta Thunberg: she reminds us of the litany of our collective failings.

Not just about how we don't care enough, but that we're not doing enough. That we're not outspoken enough. That we're not sacrificing.

That even if we acknowledge that there's a climate calamity, we're not forgoing anything for it.

Just as we hate vegans because they remind us that there's a dark cost — paid by animals every bit as sentient as our fawned-over puppies — to that burger, Greta is the ghost of a very dismal Christmas future.

It's equal parts predictable and reprehensible that a girl gets targeted because she's saying and doing what we're too — variously — lazy, complacent and greedy to do ourselves.

But the reasons she bristles, the reasons that a soft-spoken 16-year-old Swede has the capacity to stir such defensiveness and prompt such venom, is testimony to the fact that she's doing an awful lot right.

https://abc.net.au/news/2019-09-28/unpacking-twitter-tirades-why-are-we-triggered-by-greta-thunberg/11545952

The fossil fuel lobby + misogyny...   The force is strong in this formula.

But meh - fossil fuels are so last century.   Like Canute and the tide the deniers will just end up with wet feet.  Maybe people should listen to the logic of arguments sometimes rather than viscerally attack the mirror which simply reflects the flaws in their entrenched philosophy
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September 27, 2019, 09:45:39 PM

And while I am in - I love the TA Hairy.  I was concerned about this support line going back to 2018.  I think it is where the bears were aiming.  Now the RSI is picking up, seems you were spot on.

The line meant around the $7K mark...  +/- $100
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