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Question: Dec. 14 Closing Price:
<$6,000 - 10 (10.4%)
$6,000-$6,500 - 5 (5.2%)
$6,500-$7,000 - 11 (11.5%)
$7,000-$7,500 - 16 (16.7%)
$7,500-$8,000 - 18 (18.8%)
$8,000-$8,500 - 12 (12.5%)
$8,500-$9,000 - 4 (4.2%)
>$9,000 - 20 (20.8%)
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November 11, 2019, 02:54:18 PM

Someone will burn himself.... ending up with much less as they previous owned....

Let them play, let us HODL, let us all enjoy and be happy Smiley
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November 11, 2019, 03:04:47 PM

Someone will burn himself.... ending up with much less as they previous owned....

Let them play, let us HODL, let us all enjoy and be happy Smiley

Likely HODL enjoyable time if have reserved few USD already trend just looking.
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November 11, 2019, 03:33:48 PM

Someone will burn himself.... ending up with much less as they previous owned....

Let them play, let us HODL, let us all enjoy and be happy Smiley

That’s exactly what will happen mic.

It’s great when it’s working for them, selling high, buying low, increasing their stashes......until there’s a massive unexpected pump which turns into a FOMO rally & then they end up screwed Wink
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November 11, 2019, 03:42:22 PM

Someone will burn himself.... ending up with much less as they previous owned....

Let them play, let us HODL, let us all enjoy and be happy Smiley

That’s exactly what will happen mic.

It’s great when it’s working for them, selling high, buying low, increasing their stashes......until there’s a massive unexpected pump which turns into a FOMO rally & then they end up screwed Wink


Don't be mind please LFC_Bitcoin,
Honestly true it probably  buying low & selling high, i thing Very few people can do this because it is very difficult to get news in advance In most cases, they follow the signal from pumping group.
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November 11, 2019, 03:50:51 PM

Someone will burn himself.... ending up with much less as they previous owned....

Let them play, let us HODL, let us all enjoy and be happy Smiley

That’s exactly what will happen mic.

It’s great when it’s working for them, selling high, buying low, increasing their stashes......until there’s a massive unexpected pump which turns into a FOMO rally & then they end up screwed Wink

Lol Its the only way to truly learn this lesson as I have on more than one occasion.  GREED
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November 11, 2019, 03:57:42 PM

Of all the days for Bitcoin to die, why today?  Cry


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November 11, 2019, 04:08:02 PM
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Someone will burn himself.... ending up with much less as they previous owned....

Let them play, let us HODL, let us all enjoy and be happy Smiley

That’s exactly what will happen mic.

It’s great when it’s working for them, selling high, buying low, increasing their stashes......until there’s a massive unexpected pump which turns into a FOMO rally & then they end up screwed Wink

I agree completely! This is the truth! There were many chances in 2018 and 2019 to increase the stash by trading. If someone used them - cudos! But most of us didn't dare to try such a thing and increased their stash only by buying. With the coming of the next halving these chances will be very limited if any at all. Look at the last crash - it was 5% but from a temporary pump, so it is effectively 1% below the steady line around 8800 from the last week. Recently we've had a 42% pump out of nowhere and Bakkt's volume is getting higher and higher. At the beginning it was 10-70 BTC, whereas now is over 1000 BTC every day. All this shows that clever investors are buying while the small fish are selling with lame 1% profit (or worse, stop loss).  

As for the bad actors on the market, there are 2 types:
1st type - The miners with huge farms with the new s17s asic miners. They would want to suppress the price so that old s11 (which are still the vast the majority of miners) are shut down because of the loss. And this break-even price is around 9K even for those with 4-5 cents per kWh. The recent drop in the difficulty shows this might be the case.
2nd type - Manipulators with bitcoins dumping on Bearstamp with the hope of bigger percentage profit on the unregulated derivative exchanges like Bitmex.

Having said that, I don't think we should despair because there is a cure for both groups.
1st type - It is better to hedge the newly mined bitcoins on bakkt rather than dumping with the hope of the difficulty drop. This is very hazardous and may bring dissapointment resulting in a bear market. Also, the halving is coming soon, and such a move can be an own goal, because if the current price is kept after the halving, even the s17's won't be on profit.
2nd type - What is the point in shorting with 1% profit when some surpise 40%+ pump erases almost half of your manipulation ability?

And finally, as hodlers, let be rational and not emotional no matter what happens! 1% drop, 40% crash, who cares! Buy moar, hodl if needed 5 years, and enjoy the fruits of your perseverance!
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November 11, 2019, 04:14:19 PM

It's dead. People aren't buying. If they do get a tiny bit, the price shoots up because there's no liquidity. They also aren't even selling. Nobody can be bothered. Why sell now? It'll pump anon surely with the halving coming. If it doesn't then things are really bearish, then sell. For now, nothing doing. It's a long hold, it's about keeping your stash together now, not gambling it away so you can 'feel like a trader' or an alt-expert, but adding here and there. Come back in a year or two for six weeks of adrenalin. Meanwhile RIP for the nth time.

Aren't you already losing a bet?? With a call of lower prices.... the BULL might come faster as we thought yihaaa  Kiss
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November 11, 2019, 04:57:57 PM

If we drop significantly below $8.2k USD/BTC, I'll start to be "concerned" (think we're establishing a new bottom RN), but as noted previously, I honestly believe honey badger dun gone hibernatin' for the winter and just don' give a fuck, until it exits torpor in the spring.
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November 11, 2019, 05:08:02 PM

If we drop significantly below $8.2k USD/BTC, I'll start to be "concerned" (think we're establishing a new bottom RN), but as noted previously, I honestly believe honey badger dun gone hibernatin' for the winter and just don' give a fuck, until it exits torpor in the spring.


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Meh, I prefer this one, I think most of us WO could appreciate this kind of dildo actions
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November 11, 2019, 05:10:30 PM

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Actually I would like it more whiteout any interruptions in the green dildo  Grin
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November 11, 2019, 05:10:58 PM

edit: watching charts since 2013. it was pretty much all mtgox by then. i can only tell you that karpeles did a better job hiding the "manipulation" than all the exchanges today combined.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Yep, there was some actual organic movement back then in 2013-2015, but now just about every movement whether up or down is completely artificial like watching Comex gold markets.  Having said that, unlike gold, 90% of the time the manipulation is to the upside, then 10% fast, dramatic implosions.  Bitcoin now trades like absolutely nothing else beyond an artificial pump and dump scam.
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November 11, 2019, 05:14:08 PM

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r0ach, I could take you more serious with that retarded dog avatar...... change it I command you..... !!!  Kiss
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November 11, 2019, 05:20:06 PM

Nice reading.

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Technology continues to improve rapidly and Bitcoin is no different.
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November 11, 2019, 05:29:30 PM

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r0ach, I could take you more serious with that retarded dog avatar...... change it I command you..... !!!  Kiss

@Mic brother  r0ach want may be  sayed long line story of country and politics .
By the WO road r0ach agree with @mic chage avata. 
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November 11, 2019, 05:49:59 PM

Maybe btc did not died today, but I can perfectly understand why nobody here seems to be satisfied with this price...

When btc was 3k-ish we were all expecting btc to find the bottom and skyrocket again. Btc indeed DID that, but now seems to lack the propeller to stay high, even if the actual price seems very low.

In this fragile situation and with low volumes, we all know that some issues (mainly tether and mtgox coins) are still pending on btc price, and a shit-ton of FUD can be released anytime with a bogdanoff's call.

I will hodl till the end and will not sell anything before a new ATH (except maybe a beer or two if it happens, but I see still very few markets), despite that I am not comfortable with the current situation.

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November 11, 2019, 06:28:54 PM

Seems like
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November 11, 2019, 06:29:25 PM

Maybe btc did not died today, but I can perfectly understand why nobody here seems to be satisfied with this price...

When btc was 3k-ish we were all expecting btc to find the bottom and skyrocket again. Btc indeed DID that, but now seems to lack the propeller to stay high, even if the actual price seems very low.

In this fragile situation and with low volumes, we all know that some issues (mainly tether and mtgox coins) are still pending on btc price, and a shit-ton of FUD can be released anytime with a bogdanoff's call.

I will hodl till the end and will not sell anything before a new ATH (except maybe a beer or two if it happens, but I see still very few markets), despite that I am not comfortable with the current situation.

Most people made their calculations/plans according to a future price of $50k+ (possibly 70-100k) probably and bought enough coins to dump when the time comes. (me pretty much included) This was the same when btc was 1k or below. People make their plans to aim a higher number. Nothing has changed.

Maybe the other theory, "wider bowl with every cycle" is the one true theory.
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November 11, 2019, 06:41:28 PM

https://cointelegraph.com/news/her-majesty-the-queen-rules-out-crypto-as-currency
some kind of tax blahblah for British folk who go and sell their coin, or mine some, and so forth
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