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Question: Dec. 14 Closing Price:
<$6,000 - 10 (10.3%)
$6,000-$6,500 - 5 (5.2%)
$6,500-$7,000 - 11 (11.3%)
$7,000-$7,500 - 16 (16.5%)
$7,500-$8,000 - 19 (19.6%)
$8,000-$8,500 - 12 (12.4%)
$8,500-$9,000 - 4 (4.1%)
>$9,000 - 20 (20.6%)
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November 12, 2019, 02:53:45 PM

Latest thing I started playing with is Spectrum and RGB...colored coins for the Lightning Network. I have been trying to figure out how this can be done for quite a while, it appears someone has figured it out. So I will be delving deeply into the guts to figure it all out.

I am looking at decentralized partial ownership structures for titling seastead homes.

While there are shitcoin solutions, they will come and they will go. I would rather have something that is very likely to last at least 100 years like Bitcoin will.

That is an interesting use case scenario for LN indeed.

As a non-LN but still bitcoin solution, had you considered using Omni Layer or Counterparty? I never really messed around with Omni, but I know Counterparty works quite well. Granted if the Counterwallet server went down you would have to switch to a Counterparty-friendly wallet, but there's quite a few of them:

https://counterparty.io/wallets/

As you are probably aware, the downside is you do have to pay the full transaction fee every time you want to make an asset-related transaction, whether its putting up a bid on their DEX, creating them, moving them around or whatever. To me it seems like a more stable alternative than Lightning at the moment, but you know, times change.
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November 12, 2019, 03:14:08 PM

Latest thing I started playing with is Spectrum and RGB...colored coins for the Lightning Network. I have been trying to figure out how this can be done for quite a while, it appears someone has figured it out. So I will be delving deeply into the guts to figure it all out.
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Is this the project you are referring to?

RGB and Lightning Network

As far as I know the project is officially on hold as the repo maintainer and PM (Aleikos Filini) is busy doing other stuff @Blockstream.
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November 12, 2019, 03:21:30 PM
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Bullish volume, best that 2017..

The Bitcoin market has recently exceeded activity levels at the end of 2017, when BTC began its historic rally that prices soared to a record high above $ 19,900.

Bitcoin broke 40% above the maximum levels of 2017, much higher!
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Massive volume in Bitcoin

Guess what?

Things are not as they may seem.

Shrinking Spot market volume has been more than compensated for.

Futures have swallowed the Spot market. BTC 90 day Volume was recently 40% more than the 2017/18 peak.

This has powerful implications.

Via Twitter: https://twitter.com/caprioleio/status/1194023819276619778

The "holding" behavior by whales and new funds to attract the purchase of BTC.
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1/ Combining net $USDT & net $BTC flows

Reading chart: Left axis is net $USDT flows - net $BTC flows. So, for example, a $100M tether inflow & $100M btc outflow equals +$200M (both are bullish). In reverse, $100M tether outflow & $100M btc inflow equals -$200M (both are bearish)


Via Twitter: https://twitter.com/ceterispar1bus/status/1194014160599822337

Source: https://bitcoinist.com/bitcoin-90-day-volume-breaks-bullish-above-peak-2017-levels/

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November 12, 2019, 05:04:03 PM

Fresh hot, new strip-club hit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIYAMOb22WE

I can easily see it in many covers - in various languages - throughout strip-clubs of south-east Europe.
Although not a fan of this kind of music, I'm definitely a fan of strip-clubs. Grin

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November 12, 2019, 05:38:36 PM

You heard it here first. Wink

That you are a fan of strip clubs?
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November 12, 2019, 05:42:39 PM

I am looking at decentralized partial ownership structures for titling seastead homes.

While there are shitcoin solutions, they will come and they will go. I would rather have something that is very likely to last at least 100 years like Bitcoin will.

There is no more reliable indicator for Bitcoin imploding than when Elwar posts talking about how he's going to be rich from shitcoins and flood the entire planet with seasteads.
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November 12, 2019, 05:58:16 PM

Latest thing I started playing with is Spectrum and RGB...colored coins for the Lightning Network. I have been trying to figure out how this can be done for quite a while, it appears someone has figured it out. So I will be delving deeply into the guts to figure it all out.
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Is this the project you are referring to?

RGB and Lightning Network

As far as I know the project is officially on hold as the repo maintainer and PM (Aleikos Filini) is busy doing other stuff @Blockstream.


Looks like it. It appears that Maxim Orlovsky is moving forward with it as well as a decentralized file storage solution over LN.

If it's possible I am fine with helping to make it happen. I just need to read the specs over and over again until it all clicks. I am still a bit hazy on the details of LN outside of the big picture so I have a lot of work ahead of me.
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November 12, 2019, 05:59:21 PM

Old People Can Start Infusing Children's Blood Again

Nocoiner blood is back on the menu, boys.
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November 12, 2019, 06:04:21 PM

Old People Can Start Infusing Children's Blood Again

Nocoiner blood is back on the menu, boys.
These BS only sounds good in the vampire movies.

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November 12, 2019, 06:08:21 PM

It's what the humans call a 'typo'.

Nope. Typos don’t propagate.
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November 12, 2019, 06:11:27 PM

Poland has begun to address the Jewish problem.  Maybe in their next lives they'll figure out they're not allowed to tell white people what to do or act as eternal parasites on them:

https://dailystormer.name/poland-massive-annual-nationalist-march-is-beautiful/

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November 12, 2019, 06:20:52 PM

I haven't kept up much on chair technology, but it's very difficult finding a decent chair.

I present to you the eChair: http://carltatzdesign.com/press-releases/pr-1115-carl-tatz-has-your-back.html

Is it the best chair available? I dunno. But after living with it for a while, it is certainly better for me than (e.g.) an Aeron.
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November 12, 2019, 06:42:54 PM
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OK, back to this.

Okay. Let's examine this together, shall we? Here's your original post:


https://twitter.com/rusty_twit/status/1187995784957947904?s=20 ?
Nope, no evidence in there. Discussion and allegation, no evidence.

The only reason you are correct here is because he was analyzing the wrong set of blocks, which you didn't know until right now. The fuckup happened in a block previous to 600,000 -- read below.

IOW, NOT evidence.

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https://twitter.com/rusty_twit/status/1189678498337574912 ?
Maybe. Not dispositive, however. The total of penalty txs over the probable time interval of the event show less than 1BTC lost through penalty txs. But tell me - why is it assumed that there were penalty claims?

It is glaringly a dispositive. During the previous 10,000 block period there were exactly 6 penalty transactions totaling 0.09746883 BTC.

Haha. Glaringly obvious indeed. Even when spoon-fed, you entirely miss the implication of my clearly-stated musing (see italic above).

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[Blah blah blah (paraphrased) - irrelevant shit not in dispute. - ed]

If his counterparties were on the beneficial side of a stale closing tx, what is their incentive to issue a penalty? They stand to win more through just letting the mistaken stale tx broadcasts lie as is. Seems we need to at least consider that possibility before closing the case. As at least one scenario.

So far none of the 400 nodes connected to him reported receiving any funds.

Hmm. None of the 400 unjustly-enriched parties reported unjust enrichment. Whodathunkit?

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What is more likely is he has the funds, can't access them, and they are far fewer than 4 BTC in total.

Sez you. Sure, it's a plausible argument. But it does not invalidate the alternative scenario which I present. Which, of course, is why I ask to see the evidence. Again, everything you present falls far short of being dispositive.

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There are LN experts working pretty hard to help this guy recover his funds.

What ever does that have to do with the assertion that your last link is mere hearsay? Do you not understand the word itself?

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It seems like this guy did everything wrong on purpose. Its hard to believe someone would crash through several safeguards so recklessly if he cared at all about his BTC. My bet is when his funds are restored it will surface that the total "lost" was far less than 4 BTC.

Perhaps.

More germane, you have moved the goalposts from 'he made the whole thing up, case closed' to 'I kinda think sorta he might have exaggerated his losses'. Let us recall that this opened with an assertion made to the effect that it was all a lie, followed by me merely asking for evidence, for which you attacked me with the strawman of denial.
I don't know if you're being dishonest, or you are merely incapable of logic.
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November 12, 2019, 06:44:55 PM


It's almost as if people don't realize that Bitcoin has been capable of private messaging since genesis.
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November 12, 2019, 06:45:52 PM

Old People Can Start Infusing Children's Blood Again

Nocoiner blood is back on the menu, boys.


MMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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November 12, 2019, 07:10:09 PM

oo gay


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzfZ9V9Hb30 Lightning Junkies Episode LNJ011 - Shinobi Talking about Why Lightning Sucks
https://youtu.be/grKriJ0hpnQ Block Digest Special Edition - Vizique (Crypto Collectibles Enthusiast)
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November 12, 2019, 07:20:43 PM
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BAKKT is a necessity for the criminal syndicate of big money to control the price of bitcoin... They think they can use rehypothecated bitcoin collateral like they do with physical gold. They can't!

Well, they can't. Unless society as a whole lets them. Which is why education is so important.

Well, not BAKKT specifically, as it is physically-settled. At least as long as the customers don't simply roll their take. But most other 'tools' at of the pinstriped bandits do serve this 'need'.

Do you think the average man-on-the-street has internalized 'not your keys, not your bitcoin'? Hell, our little insular bitcoin community doesn't even practice that, at least not enough to deter partial reserve bitcoin. Tether, anyone?
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November 12, 2019, 07:31:05 PM

To be completely transparent, I'm liquidating however many BTC will be needed for me to buy a nicely specced-out Mac Pro when the new ones are released (any day now)

I'll be waiting until my SW runs on Catalina.
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November 12, 2019, 08:02:27 PM


It's almost as if people don't realize that Bitcoin has been capable of private messaging since genesis.

So many things haven t been understood and / or crippled to death or anonymity.

Sigh

Now invent new wheels again?
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