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Question: Dec. 14 Closing Price:
<$6,000 - 7 (11.9%)
$6,000-$6,500 - 3 (5.1%)
$6,500-$7,000 - 5 (8.5%)
$7,000-$7,500 - 7 (11.9%)
$7,500-$8,000 - 12 (20.3%)
$8,000-$8,500 - 10 (16.9%)
$8,500-$9,000 - 3 (5.1%)
>$9,000 - 12 (20.3%)
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UP is the menu what am I gonna take ??

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I think you will have to go with the boring old "Sex on the Beach"


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This might be talking ..... Kiss

Knew it! :Tongue

And... are those two drinks on the sides Margaritas? Hard to tell for sure with that lighting, but could perfectly be.
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November 17, 2019, 02:07:03 AM

Moon when?

When we get to the yellow bit on this chart.

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November 17, 2019, 02:46:11 AM
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Moon when?
You know better than everyone else causes you are "Legendary", I still think it's later this month not 100% accurate There is a possibility.

Everyone's question is whether the halving has been priced in already or not.

Yeah same to me a lot of time discussion BTC price and halving a lot of people said that bitcoin pumped and movement near "halving" but not sure  people just idea, that so bitcoin is the real main pairs so opinion going more and more so that we have conception "Moon soon" before halving.

A halving doesn't get priced in. It might get temporarily pumped by whales beforehand to screw over the noobs, but, that's it. The halving is purely a supply and demand thing. Over the long term, the reduced supply will absolutely increase the price, provided demand remains the same or increases. I've said it before, mathematically bitcoin is designed to always increase in price, just as fiat money is designed to reduce in price.

The reduction in supply can't be priced in before hand, because there is too much supply to maintain a priced in (higher) price. Same as any commodity.
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November 17, 2019, 03:01:18 AM

so, welease wobber?

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November 17, 2019, 03:06:05 AM

The definition of "hearsay" isn't something that "is not true"; its something that isn't adequately substantiated. I provided you a chain of links with substantiating evidence, but if that's not adequate for you, again, that's out of my control.

Where do you get the idea that I think the definition of hearsay is something that is not true? You accused the person of nefarious behavior, with zero evidence to that effect.

I can't make you understand that hearsay is only bad when applied to court room trials.

Absolutely. Because it is not true. You accused a person of nefarious behavior without evidence of such. Kicking s person when they are down is playground bully behavior, and should be discouraged. Period.

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"Zero evidence." OK boomer.
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Unfortunately our fates are intertwined with them so the prophecy can be fulfilled.
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Everyone's question is whether the halving has been priced in already or not.

No its still retracting from the last wave, people jumping the gun and getting fingers muzzle burnt.


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We already have unlimited blocks and built-in pruning in physical silver.



Confirmation is reliable but a little too slow for the modern world, you already know silver is not compact enough to be used by itself.   Silver and gold are going to be more used then now for sure but so will many things beyond FIAT.
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“Stick to rounding up everyone who should be rounded up,” it said. “If they’re there, round them up.”
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/16/world/asia/china-xinjiang-documents.html

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Secret teams of investigators traveled across the region identifying those who were not doing enough. In 2017, the party opened more than 12,000 investigations into party members in Xinjiang for infractions in the “fight against separatism,” more than 20 times the figure in the previous year, according to official statistics.

Mr. Wang may have gone further than any other official.

Quietly, he ordered the release of more than 7,000 camp inmates — an act of defiance for which he would be detained, stripped of power and prosecuted.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/16/world/asia/china-detention-directive.html
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November 17, 2019, 03:52:47 AM

Sorry to distract ya'll from an apparent dick measuring contest...

What's your take on perpetual trusts?
Here is Guardian's:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/14/the-great-american-tax-haven-why-the-super-rich-love-south-dakota-trust-laws

I think that this would be relevant to bitcoin later on.
There are lots of "golden nuggets" in this article.
The main conclusion is that we might be changing the society by allowing perpetual trusts (details in the article).


This golden nugget is relevant to some US bitcoiners right now. How many will be moving to South Dakota before cashing out to avoid capital gains tax?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/14/the-great-american-tax-haven-why-the-super-rich-love-south-dakota-trust-laws

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South Dakota has no income tax, no inheritance tax and no capital gains tax

The perpetual trusts thing seems a massive deal, and probably will be relevant to Bitcoin later on.

Well, hold your horses, there are still federal taxes, including capital gains tax. It's not written very clearly.
The only no cap gains tax for US citizens is the Puerto-Rico deal, but it is only until 2035 and only on cap gains AFTER you domesticated/moved your assets there.
Plus, you HAVE to reside there 183 days/year.


That explains why nobody has already suggested South Dakota.

I read about the pros and cons of the Puerto-Rico deal here. Like you say, it's complicated.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/are-tax-moves-to-puerto-rico-worth-it-for-crypto-holders

I thought there was a tax in Puerto Rico has a 10.5% sales tax https://www.avalara.com/taxrates/en/state-rates/puerto-rico.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Puerto_Rico

Still confused about if/how or if you pay any Commenwealth Taxes or Provencial Taxes on top of the above.



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Sorry to distract ya'll from an apparent dick measuring contest...

What's your take on perpetual trusts?
Here is Guardian's:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/14/the-great-american-tax-haven-why-the-super-rich-love-south-dakota-trust-laws

I think that this would be relevant to bitcoin later on.
There are lots of "golden nuggets" in this article.
The main conclusion is that we might be changing the society by allowing perpetual trusts (details in the article).


This golden nugget is relevant to some US bitcoiners right now. How many will be moving to South Dakota before cashing out to avoid capital gains tax?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/14/the-great-american-tax-haven-why-the-super-rich-love-south-dakota-trust-laws

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South Dakota has no income tax, no inheritance tax and no capital gains tax

The perpetual trusts thing seems a massive deal, and probably will be relevant to Bitcoin later on.

Well, hold your horses, there are still federal taxes, including capital gains tax. It's not written very clearly.
The only no cap gains tax for US citizens is the Puerto-Rico deal, but it is only until 2035 and only on cap gains AFTER you domesticated/moved your assets there.
Plus, you HAVE to reside there 183 days/year.


That explains why nobody has already suggested South Dakota.

I read about the pros and cons of the Puerto-Rico deal here. Like you say, it's complicated.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/are-tax-moves-to-puerto-rico-worth-it-for-crypto-holders

I thought there was a tax in Puerto Rico has a 10.5% sales tax https://www.avalara.com/taxrates/en/state-rates/puerto-rico.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Puerto_Rico

Still confused about if/how or if you pay any Commenwealth Taxes or Provencial Taxes on top of the above.


That's a very confusing article.
Maybe read this one instead:
https://prbusinesslink.com/act-22/

Personally, I am too lazy and set in my ways to uproot myself, but there are a bunch of youtube videos that describe the experience.
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November 17, 2019, 06:40:20 AM

Sell, wait for 3200 and then buy bitcoins. In altcoins there is no sense at all, bitcoin will screw everything if necessary: masternodes and instantsend from DASH, side chains and DEX from Komodo, a large block from BSV, smart contracts from BCH, etc. Altcoins are only needed for testing new technologies
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November 17, 2019, 07:19:46 AM

this sucks
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November 17, 2019, 07:23:10 AM

Hello WO gang!
Observing 8,471@stamp
All is good, 1BTC =1BTC

Look who entered the art contest!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5193860.msg53096814#msg53096814
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Hello WO gang!
Observing 8,471@stamp
All is good, 1BTC =1BTC

Look who entered the art contest!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5193860.msg53096814#msg53096814


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November 17, 2019, 08:20:08 AM

this sucks

meh... massive support around 8400 - 8450 it would appear. quite a bounce here, hopefully a springboard for a new takeoff.
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November 17, 2019, 08:54:15 AM

Whats up Cryptotourist.

Can we have the old Lambie back now?

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~ and have lived to regret cashing them all out, way too soon. Grin

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(not that I sell any BTC from the hoard, but still as a spectator sport your BTC hoard vs USD worth it sucks) Smiley

Assuming you are referring to my stack, it does suck.
Not much fiat available to convert to BTC before the halving unfortunately.

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finally there is some volume. big pump incoming.
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November 17, 2019, 09:01:42 AM

this sucks

nuh. this is fine.
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https://twitter.com/CryptoHornHairs/status/1195723177957167104

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I still remember the exact moments of each of these stop runs on $BTC during 2017. Each turned out to be a turning point and end of a corrective period in the larger bull run.

I can't help but think we saw the exact same thing happen recently, just on the weekly chart.

We can continue like this +/- 8,500 and stay here until the end of the year or we can take off at any time, I prefer to think that we will take off soon.

The example of 2017 can happen again.

Hodl.

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