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March 14, 2020, 12:06:17 AM

Although it is in this stage of extreme fear, it can be seen as a great opportunity to buy cheap, in fact even Snowden is interested in buying Bitcoin.

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is that a record?

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March 14, 2020, 12:08:44 AM

Mmmm... any American around? You guys have a (very) nice guy in the Oval Office! Make sure to keep him in the office for another 4 years. Smiley

https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1238609502192238592

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March 14, 2020, 12:17:32 AM

Some day I will buy a baseball bat and start punching everyone that repeats that same old shit about one BTC being still one BTC.

Same here but with folks saying "I'm long-term bullish". And "long-term" tends to mean an even longer period of time. Last year such peeps mentioned 2022. This year I saw 2024 even 2030. F*ck I'd punch them straight in the face IRL.   Cool  And what is pissing you off?   Grin

Wut? We are all going to die and you ask me that??!?

Nah, I am not really pissed. I just decided it was about time to say what I thought about that statement after many years of suffering it in silence.

The long term thing is different... first everyone have different considerations of long term and also price expectations change over time depending on circumstances... But... 1BTC being equal to 1BTC? Gimme a break......
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March 14, 2020, 12:34:37 AM

But if I take my fiat and convert it to cash get it back from the bank that borrowed it from me, I can use it as toilet paper.

ftfy   Cool
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March 14, 2020, 12:36:10 AM

Honestly, it's a 4 year cycle, right.

2013 - 2017 - 2021.

Expecting moon in 2020 was always just hopium.  

This is fine.

As long as i can expect the bottom in 2020 everything is golden.

Post corona real estate gonna be cheap as fuck too, if the governments will fail to contain corona.


Btw. Corona is NOT about lethality - it is about the high infection rate combined with the high amount of severe cases (up to 20% depending on what source you take).

If containment fails, we will have up to 20% of 3/4 of the population needing a bed in hospital which will collapse our healthcare system.

People will not only die from corona but also from everything else.
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I'm printing paper wallets on toilet paper now.

It's the virus times version of Casascius coins

But that only works if you have toilet paper on hand. If you're fresh out and you call around and find the nearest tissue paper is at a store hundreds or thousands of miles away, you can simply drive to a closer ATM and get several sheets to wipe. Here in the US, that may be 20 bucks per wipe, but you do what you got to do.


Guys look at the master races who dont use toilet paper at all but a so called bidet Wink
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1 BTC being still equal to 1 BTC? I can give two shits about that.

Really I never understood what's the point of repeating that all the time.

Btw, 1 USD = 1 USD. So what?



1 USD= 1USD
sure.
Do you know the meme of the emptying cart, this well explain that even if 1 USD has always been equal to 1 USD, the true value (something similar to purchasing power) has been going down since inception (or 1971 at least).

So once again,
saying 1BTC=1BTC you are implying your numera ire, your basic unit of account,  is the BTC, not the dollar.

Your numeraire, your store of wealth, is the BTC, not the USD.
You are not investing USD in BTC (and price is going up).
You are investing BTC in USD (and price is going down, hence, don't hold in USD more than you are willing to lose).

When you increase your Bitcoin account you are not buying  BTC! You are selling USD!

This is, to me, the true meaning of this sentence.


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I'm printing paper wallets on toilet paper now.

It's the virus times version of Casascius coins

But that only works if you have toilet paper on hand. If you're fresh out and you call around and find the nearest tissue paper is at a store hundreds or thousands of miles away, you can simply drive to a closer ATM and get several sheets to wipe. Here in the US, that may be 20 bucks per wipe, but you do what you got to do.


Guys look at the master races who dont use toilet paper at all but a so called bidet Wink

How do you get your arse dry afterwards? Do they have an arse dryer like a hot air hand dryer?
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Btw, 1 USD = 1 USD. So what?
1 USD =/= 1 USD due to money printing.
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March 14, 2020, 12:55:36 AM


1 BTC being still equal to 1 BTC? I can give two shits about that.

Really I never understood what's the point of repeating that all the time.

Btw, 1 USD = 1 USD. So what?



1 USD= 1USD
sure.
Do you know the meme of the emptying cart, this well explain that even if 1 USD has always been equal to 1 USD, the true value (something similar to purchasing power) has been going down since inception (or 1971 at least).

So once again,
saying 1BTC=1BTC you are implying your numera ire, your basic unit of account,  is the BTC, not the dollar.

Your numeraire, your store of wealth, is the BTC, not the USD.
You are not investing USD in BTC (and price is going up).
You are investing BTC in USD (and price is going down, hence, don't hold in USD more than you are willing to lose).

When you increase your Bitcoin account you are not buying  BTC! You are selling USD!

This is, to me, the true meaning of this sentence.




I do understand what they think they mean... it is just that it is nonsense.

You now say 1 USD = 1 USD (because that's not arguable) but also say, as if it was a differential advantage of BTC, that the "true value" of USD has been going down. Great... because that's exactly what I mean when also BTC "true" value has come down... as in past days dump. In both cases, it doesn't mean anything if 1USD=1USD or 1BTC=1BTC. Also, something that obvious (it's a fucking equal not even a function) doesn't need to be repeated as if it were gonna change anytime soon. It won't. I know 1BTC will always be 1BTC.... no matter what that implies.

Also, when I do increase my BTC count 1BTC=1BTC... but look, when i do sell my BTC... 1 BTC still is equal to 1BTC! Wow! Magic!

The supermarket cart, OTOH, is a *GREAT* example/moto to use. 1BTC=1BTC is lame.

I guess we can agree to disagree on this one. I will never think it is a good slogan/moto to use when talking about BTC... much less during a dump. It sounds like the typical loser statement to me. As in... "the important thing is to participate, not to win"... Yeah, right.

Anyways... wake me up when 1BTC != 1BTC. That will be really interesting.
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March 14, 2020, 12:57:04 AM

Btw, 1 USD = 1 USD. So what?
1 USD =/= 1 USD due to money printing.

Wrong. You are talking about relative value here. If so, then 1BTC != 1BTC too.

And that not even considering forks and some other shit........
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Anyways... wake me up when 1BTC != 1BTC. That will be really interesting.


Slightly off topic:

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Solve carefully!
     230 - 220 x 0.5 =

You probably won't believe it, but the answer is 5!

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*SPOILER ALERT*
https://twitter.com/3j0hn/status/913447235534315520
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Anyways... wake me up when 1BTC != 1BTC. That will be really interesting.


Slightly off topic:

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A math meme that is funny rather than stupid:
Solve carefully!
     230 - 220 x 0.5 =

You probably won't believe it, but the answer is 5!

Source:

*SPOILER ALERT*
https://twitter.com/3j0hn/status/913447235534315520


It is 120 for me but maybe they changed the conventions about the order of the operations or it is different depending on the country or it is using a different base?

But yeah, I get your point... even an equal sign (as in 1BTC=1BTC) might mean whatever someone wants it to mean... even if according to their very own "rules".
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Anyways... wake me up when 1BTC != 1BTC. That will be really interesting.


Slightly off topic:

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A math meme that is funny rather than stupid:
Solve carefully!
     230 - 220 x 0.5 =

You probably won't believe it, but the answer is 5!

Source:

*SPOILER ALERT*
https://twitter.com/3j0hn/status/913447235534315520


we are fucking doomed
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Anyways... wake me up when 1BTC != 1BTC. That will be really interesting.


Slightly off topic:

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A math meme that is funny rather than stupid:
Solve carefully!
     230 - 220 x 0.5 =

You probably won't believe it, but the answer is 5!

Source:

*SPOILER ALERT*
https://twitter.com/3j0hn/status/913447235534315520


It is 120 for me
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Correct!
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March 14, 2020, 01:35:10 AM

Btw, 1 USD = 1 USD. So what?
1 USD =/= 1 USD due to money printing.

Wrong. You are talking about relative value here. If so, then 1BTC != 1BTC too.

And that not even considering forks and some other shit........
Relative value comes from supply and demand. Central banks are not just devaluing currency with the printing press, they are functionally changing and corroding it.

It's as if they had the power to make your computer worse just by printing some more, which is obviously not the case for computers. Yes, the relative value of computers changes if you shit out a lot of them, due to basic supply and demand.

They do however retain the same absolute functionality no matter how many there are.

This is not the case with fiat currency. If you print too much of it fiat loses all of its functionality as money and this happens on a gradient, e.g. the more you print the more useless your currency becomes.

If you create an infinite amount of computers the only thing that will happen is that everybody will be able to have a pretty nice tool.
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Solve carefully!
     230 - 220 x 0.5 =

You probably won't believe it, but the answer is 5!

Maths iz hard.

Nope, I don't believe it.
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March 14, 2020, 01:52:17 AM

Consider the halving.

Some people always throw out the idea that if the miners start getting paid half of their reward then mining will end. Well, the scenario they pose is that enough miners stop mining that the few remaining miners cannot mine a block for weeks.

The miners are now getting half of the value they were just last week.
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March 14, 2020, 01:54:32 AM

Holding is so f**k hard.

don't want to scared WOers, just an alert.

https://twitter.com/Austen/status/1238614012205494277
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Much faster, nowhere near as severe yet.

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