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[bkbirge]

I don't know man, we treat "don't consume what you can't afford" like some kind of arcane fucking wisdom that has to be taught.

No.

This is BASIC reality, like fire is hot and water is wet.

fucks sake people

There's knowing that and there's putting it into practice. When you consider so many adults can't even do a basic budget then yes the idea of savings has to be taught in my opinion, even if only to emphasize its importance in the face of a never ending onslaught of a culture that demands us to spend. Heck we even see it on here sometimes when people over invest and get themselves in trouble because they didn't follow the mantra of not to invest what they can't lose. Just my opinion.

[OutOfMemory]

And there's a valid point to Ibian's opinion: A knife is as deadly as a bullet, but it's lighter, quicker and without any need to aim or reload.
Don't even try to start a discussion over that with me. As soon as you might read this, you're already on my ignore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DzcOCyHDqc

Classic  
Indiana Jones.
The black dressed dude has a problem: bringing a sword to a gunfight!

No, seriosly, with a gun you're in a bad position over a quick moving opponent. If you run from gunfire, do it like a rabbit, changing direction every second or two, never run in a straight line. Most gunmen are trained well for motionless targets. Like the tuareg swordman in the referenced movie scene.
Every hit with a knife, a stab, a stroke etc. will wound your opponent, most time badly. It hurts and if a main blood vessel is hit, you're likely done. Good bye.
Karate tricks against a man armed with a knife are hollywood dreams, nothing more. Active defense will get you injured. The best defense against a knife is running away AFAP. You can't lose a fight you don't engage in. That said, one should only fight when he has no other option than to kill. This is also thought in the army.

But this isn't Sword Observer, so let's end this topic here, i'm sure there is already a ton to read about on the interweb.

I missed the last dip with my last fiat money, because i was too optimistic for the price to get lower even more.
You win, JJG  

<insert meme>
...
...
You guys have gardeners?
You guys have gardens?

Better: I have a garden, mainly raised beds, and my wife is the gardener. I wish she was as dirty in bed as after gardening, but you can't have it all, you know 

[JimboToronto]

When you consider so many adults can't even do a basic budget then yes the idea of savings has to be taught in my opinion, even if only to emphasize its importance in the face of a never ending onslaught of a culture that demands us to spend.

Who's going to teach them? Schools? LOL.

People are trained by media propaganda, both the MSM and (anti-) "Social" Media.

Nobody's going to fork over the dineros to pay for "save don't spend" commercials. Sorry, retail "savings" products from banks don't count.

As for Insta-Face-Tube, stupidity and misinformation are so rampant that quality control is almost impossible. No sense trying to learn from the already brainwashed.

I guess it's inevitable. There will always be suckers, bread&circuses, and a peasant class, and there will always be a minority who can see beyond. Suckers may be born every minute but showmen much less often.

[Ibian]

"adults"

Most "adults" today are children in overgrown bodies.

Brain development is what matters, and we are living in a world both populated and run by people who are, literally, retarded. The npc meme exists for a reason. This can only continue as long as socialism does (yes your country is socialist, so is mine, there are no other kinds in the world today), and when it inevitably collapses so will they.

[bkbirge]

The lung problems are frightening...
https://news.yahoo.com/fit-healthy-33-old-recounts-183641193.html

‘’I am 33 years old, in great health, and I found myself suddenly in less than a day and a half in intensive care.’’

[Hyperjacked]

United States    101,508   Coronavirus Cases

150K by Monday night GMT

152K already...
SAD!

My home state of New York is the epicenter with 66,497 cases according to worldometers! This is no joke...
And this is just the tip of the iceberg for the United States imo
It happened because fools minimized the risk weeks ago!

[bkbirge]

When you consider so many adults can't even do a basic budget then yes the idea of savings has to be taught in my opinion, even if only to emphasize its importance in the face of a never ending onslaught of a culture that demands us to spend.

Who's going to teach them? Schools? LOL.

Well, in my household it's the parent me teaching the kid. But yeah, I do think there should be a semester on basic money management taught in public schools. And probably another semester on basic life skills that it seems many parents don't teach or don't even know themselves.  

[Elwar]

Adapt or die.

[jojo69]

Well guys

M&B II dropped to early access this morning

its about 80% inbound now

y'all won't be seeing much of me this week...I got Cossacks to cleave

[fillippone]

Well.
Being quarantined sucks.
But do you know what sucks the most?
Fascism.

First example: Orban getting full powers to "fight Coronavirus".
Who is going to strip him from those powers if/when crisis is solved?

The nationalist government in Hungary passed a law Monday granting sweeping emergency powers that Prime Minister Viktor Orban says are necessary to fight the coronavirus pandemic.

Those powers include sidelining parliament and giving Orban the power to rule by decree indefinitely. The law would punish those who spread false information about the pandemic with up to five years in prison.

"Changing our lives is now unavoidable," Orban told lawmakers last week. "Everyone has to leave their comfort zone. This law gives the government the power and means to defend Hungary."

During Monday's vote, he said: "When this emergency ends, we will give back all powers, without exception."

But critics insist that Orban is using the pandemic to grab power. "An indefinite and uncontrolled state of emergency cannot guarantee that the basic principles of democracy will be observed," Council of Europe Secretary General Marija Pejcinovic Buric wrote to Orban on March 24.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/30/823778208/new-law-gives-sweeping-powers-to-hungarys-orban-alarming-rights-advocates?t=1585593271940


Second, subtler example: we are slowly sliding toward China.
Mass control smuggled as a required Health Prevention Feature.

"We could extend the tracking through apps that have been talked about a lot in the last few weeks, and we could ask for them in these mass situations." Purpose? Understand the risk of a person who must attend the event, in order to evaluate what to do. For example, on the ticket purchased, the words ?The organization reserves the right to deny entry to those who have had risky behavior regarding the virus or dangerous symptoms?.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.corriere.it%2Feconomia%2Fconsumi%2F20_marzo_30%2Fbar-ascensori-metro-concerti-cinema-come-cambiera-nostra-vita-il-coronavirus-e7a980b0-727f-11ea-bc49-338bb9c7b205.shtml


FUCK YOU!

[xhomerx10]

Adapt or die.

 Honestly, free market healthcare capacity would be smaller.  Free capital would flee from any institution with unoccupied critical care beds for something more profitable.  Only a government could waste your money on something as frivolous unused infrastructure.

[JSRAW]

Second, subtler example: we are slowly sliding toward China.

Chinese propaganda working?

And how credible this Italian journalist "Francesca Marino" is in context of Italy politics? Why We, Italians, Are Angry With China – And Want ‘War Damages’

Her specialty is South Asia region so she regularly writes against Chinese authority. Pointing out for balanced argument

[bitserve]

Adapt or die.

If that were the case... Are you sure you would not be outbided in that scenario?

I suspect theres more old people able to pay a few tens of millions to save his life than there is available ICU beds + ventilator in the private health sector.

[OutOfMemory]

Well.
Being quarantined sucks.
But do you know what sucks the most?
Fascism.

First example: Orban getting full powers to "fight Coronavirus".
Who is going to strip him from those powers if/when crisis is solved?

The nationalist government in Hungary passed a law Monday granting sweeping emergency powers that Prime Minister Viktor Orban says are necessary to fight the coronavirus pandemic.

Those powers include sidelining parliament and giving Orban the power to rule by decree indefinitely. The law would punish those who spread false information about the pandemic with up to five years in prison.

"Changing our lives is now unavoidable," Orban told lawmakers last week. "Everyone has to leave their comfort zone. This law gives the government the power and means to defend Hungary."

During Monday's vote, he said: "When this emergency ends, we will give back all powers, without exception."

But critics insist that Orban is using the pandemic to grab power. "An indefinite and uncontrolled state of emergency cannot guarantee that the basic principles of democracy will be observed," Council of Europe Secretary General Marija Pejcinovic Buric wrote to Orban on March 24.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/30/823778208/new-law-gives-sweeping-powers-to-hungarys-orban-alarming-rights-advocates?t=1585593271940


Second, subtler example: we are slowly sliding toward China.
Mass control smuggled as a required Health Prevention Feature.

"We could extend the tracking through apps that have been talked about a lot in the last few weeks, and we could ask for them in these mass situations." Purpose? Understand the risk of a person who must attend the event, in order to evaluate what to do. For example, on the ticket purchased, the words ?The organization reserves the right to deny entry to those who have had risky behavior regarding the virus or dangerous symptoms?.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.corriere.it%2Feconomia%2Fconsumi%2F20_marzo_30%2Fbar-ascensori-metro-concerti-cinema-come-cambiera-nostra-vita-il-coronavirus-e7a980b0-727f-11ea-bc49-338bb9c7b205.shtml


FUCK YOU!

Orban is a chapter of its own, a bad example for the european union, and not the first time. This is even what drives the member countries apart, away from anything united.

It's always the same. Responsible people follow the rules, as a self explanatory community sense, but the few of us that are simple minded don't care. Because of these few, and their actions, everybody gets punished. The road to mass surveillance was paved with very small steps, like forbidding unregistered prepaid cards in the EU, one of the last changes to make global tracking possible, as well as intelligence exchange (which spy at each other AND claim to be partnering).
Just pervert. Orwell would turn nuts nowadays.

[Anastasios]

Well.
Being quarantined sucks.
But do you know what sucks the most?
Fascism.

First example: Orban getting full powers to "fight Coronavirus".
Who is going to strip him from those powers if/when crisis is solved?

The nationalist government in Hungary passed a law Monday granting sweeping emergency powers that Prime Minister Viktor Orban says are necessary to fight the coronavirus pandemic.

Those powers include sidelining parliament and giving Orban the power to rule by decree indefinitely. The law would punish those who spread false information about the pandemic with up to five years in prison.

"Changing our lives is now unavoidable," Orban told lawmakers last week. "Everyone has to leave their comfort zone. This law gives the government the power and means to defend Hungary."

During Monday's vote, he said: "When this emergency ends, we will give back all powers, without exception."

But critics insist that Orban is using the pandemic to grab power. "An indefinite and uncontrolled state of emergency cannot guarantee that the basic principles of democracy will be observed," Council of Europe Secretary General Marija Pejcinovic Buric wrote to Orban on March 24.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/30/823778208/new-law-gives-sweeping-powers-to-hungarys-orban-alarming-rights-advocates?t=1585593271940


Second, subtler example: we are slowly sliding toward China.
Mass control smuggled as a required Health Prevention Feature.

"We could extend the tracking through apps that have been talked about a lot in the last few weeks, and we could ask for them in these mass situations." Purpose? Understand the risk of a person who must attend the event, in order to evaluate what to do. For example, on the ticket purchased, the words ?The organization reserves the right to deny entry to those who have had risky behavior regarding the virus or dangerous symptoms?.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.corriere.it%2Feconomia%2Fconsumi%2F20_marzo_30%2Fbar-ascensori-metro-concerti-cinema-come-cambiera-nostra-vita-il-coronavirus-e7a980b0-727f-11ea-bc49-338bb9c7b205.shtml


FUCK YOU!

Seems like what Taiwan did
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762689

Id be very proud to be Taiwanese right now making less than half the income of Western countries like US, UK, Sweden etc at less than half the tax rates of those countries yet still having the infrastructure and legislature to not let people die in such a way. Maybe there is reason to sacrifice one thing for something bigger, if you have the capability of seeing the bigger picture that is.

Sad to see such a wonderful old thread filled with communist/socialist dogma.

[Anastasios]

Well.
Being quarantined sucks.
But do you know what sucks the most?
Fascism.

First example: Orban getting full powers to "fight Coronavirus".
Who is going to strip him from those powers if/when crisis is solved?

The nationalist government in Hungary passed a law Monday granting sweeping emergency powers that Prime Minister Viktor Orban says are necessary to fight the coronavirus pandemic.

Those powers include sidelining parliament and giving Orban the power to rule by decree indefinitely. The law would punish those who spread false information about the pandemic with up to five years in prison.

"Changing our lives is now unavoidable," Orban told lawmakers last week. "Everyone has to leave their comfort zone. This law gives the government the power and means to defend Hungary."

During Monday's vote, he said: "When this emergency ends, we will give back all powers, without exception."

But critics insist that Orban is using the pandemic to grab power. "An indefinite and uncontrolled state of emergency cannot guarantee that the basic principles of democracy will be observed," Council of Europe Secretary General Marija Pejcinovic Buric wrote to Orban on March 24.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/30/823778208/new-law-gives-sweeping-powers-to-hungarys-orban-alarming-rights-advocates?t=1585593271940


Second, subtler example: we are slowly sliding toward China.
Mass control smuggled as a required Health Prevention Feature.

"We could extend the tracking through apps that have been talked about a lot in the last few weeks, and we could ask for them in these mass situations." Purpose? Understand the risk of a person who must attend the event, in order to evaluate what to do. For example, on the ticket purchased, the words ?The organization reserves the right to deny entry to those who have had risky behavior regarding the virus or dangerous symptoms?.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.corriere.it%2Feconomia%2Fconsumi%2F20_marzo_30%2Fbar-ascensori-metro-concerti-cinema-come-cambiera-nostra-vita-il-coronavirus-e7a980b0-727f-11ea-bc49-338bb9c7b205.shtml


FUCK YOU!

Orban is a chapter of its own, a bad example for the european union, and not the first time. This is even what drives the member countries apart, away from anything united.

It's always the same. Responsible people follow the rules, as a self explanatory community sense, but the few of us that are simple minded don't care. Because of these few, and their actions, everybody gets punished. The road to mass surveillance was paved with very small steps, like forbidding unregistered prepaid cards in the EU, one of the last changes to make global tracking possible, as well as intelligence exchange (which spy at each other AND claim to be partnering).
Just pervert. Orwell would turn nuts nowadays.

Use cash instead. Boycott cashless businesses.

[JSRAW]

Use cash instead. Boycott cashless businesses.

Bitcoin cries in sats

[bitserve]

500BTC (aprox) Buy wall at $6500 on Bitstamp.

Being eaten alive. Done.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Feels like a good time to slide into the WO tonight.

Observing POMP at $6500!

Go Bitcorn Go!

[JimboToronto]

Well, in my household it's the parent me teaching the kid. But yeah, I do think there should be a semester on basic money management taught in public schools. And probably another semester on basic life skills that it seems many parents don't teach or don't even know themselves.  

There's the rub.

Indeed the only way for kids to really learn is by the example their own parents set.

Unfortunately too many parents set the wrong example.

The cycle of abuse continues.