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This video appears to show a MyCoin.hk convention in 2014:
http://my.tv.sohu.com/us/201860874/69946081.shtml

Given the number of atendees in that event, the claim of 3000 victims now seems more credible.

The gray-haired Westerner may be William Dennis Atwood, the director of the parent company who seem to have left shortly before MyCoin.hk collapsed.  
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February 11, 2015, 06:33:41 PM

This video appears to show a MyCoin.hk convention in 2014:
http://my.tv.sohu.com/us/201860874/69946081.shtml

Given the number of atendees in that event, the claim of 3000 victims now seems more credible.

The gray-haired Westerner may be William Dennis Atwood, the director of the parent company who seem to have left shortly before MyCoin.hk collapsed.  

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The CCB reports that 43 investors between the ages of 21 and 71 years old lost anywhere between HK$50,000 to HK$15m each when the exchange ceased operations. Such estimates would place the total consumer loss at HK$63m, or $8.12m at press time.

http://www.coindesk.com/mycoin-hong-kong-police-8-1-million/

Just a little off from previously reported 387$M.....  Cheesy
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February 11, 2015, 06:42:32 PM

This video appears to show a MyCoin.hk convention in 2014:
http://my.tv.sohu.com/us/201860874/69946081.shtml

Given the number of atendees in that event, the claim of 3000 victims now seems more credible.

The gray-haired Westerner may be William Dennis Atwood, the director of the parent company who seem to have left shortly before MyCoin.hk collapsed.  

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The CCB reports that 43 investors between the ages of 21 and 71 years old lost anywhere between HK$50,000 to HK$15m each when the exchange ceased operations. Such estimates would place the total consumer loss at HK$63m, or $8.12m at press time.

http://www.coindesk.com/mycoin-hong-kong-police-8-1-million/

Just a little off from previously reported 387$M.....  Cheesy

talk about being way off
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February 11, 2015, 06:46:12 PM

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February 11, 2015, 06:51:35 PM



as i said...it was about the quote...i didnt even care about the picture
"We all remember the soviet advance into Ukraine and into Germany very well. This has to be prevented and nobody has the right to rewrite the results of the second world war." (c) Jazenjuk...this was also only one point...this happened at an interview with the ARD (the main public german tv channel...i dont know if you have anything similar in the usa)...my point was that things like these happened a lot in the last months but there is no public discussion about it...the same with odessa where they trapped people in a building and set it on fire...whoever came out got shot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4dJRnI-X8Q   how do you reply to this...is this a made up lie for you?

I wasn't there. But as far as I can gather Russia attacked Ukraine, people got angry, shit happened. If you think you have figured it all out from that video then good for you. I do know that people were a bit on edge in that region because there were rumors that Russia would try to send provocateurs to Transnistria through there. I don't know why Russia would do that (Transnistria is very pro-russian as it is), but that was the rumor.

it's good that you finally admit that you have no idea what is going on there...it is just one video...yes...this is why i said i am into this topic for months and it is not explainable in a board as a sidetopic...(actually it is about a year especially the ukraine problem, i didn't consider the maidan movement a real threat in the beginning)...anyway...since you don't want to get to gain more knowledge about that topic, we can talk about bitcoin again

Yeez, ok. You have a funny way of "gaining knowledge". You seem so hooked up on reading between the lines that you can't make out what the text actually says. If you look up the parties of the current government on wikipedia you will find what those parties stand for. That is why they were elected and that is what the people want. If some of those politicians are secretly assholes then they will be no different from any other political party in the world. I even showed you a video that showed that the prime ministers salute was an innocent hand gesture and you proceeded to moan on about the text under that same picture I had just proved to be propaganda even when I had asked you several times to be more critical of your sources. Another thing, people say stupid things all the time, you have to look at the whole picture. Yes, there are nazis in Ukraine, of course they run front and center when Russia invades Ukraine. Yes, Yatsenyuks comments about Germany during the second world war is a massive brain fart.

Ukraine was pulled out of one of the worst humanitarian catastrophes in the world until then into another. They struggle to paint it black and white. The greatest farming nation in Europe had to suffer a famine that cost between 2.5 and 7.5 million deaths because of soviet policies. And soviet death squads rolled up in trucks to shoot anyone who made any resistance. After this the germans were viewed with different eyes by many ukranians than in other countries. Ironically Ukraine was one the countries that were hardest hit by the german terror, and it didn't make it better that a significant portion of ukranians were collaborators. And after the ukranian independence they have have tended to focus more on their role as victim than their many collaborators. That makes them ignorant in this regard, but not nazis. I hope the new democratic Ukraine will take a harder look at their past, but that is not the most pressing matter today.
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February 11, 2015, 06:59:34 PM

This video appears to show a MyCoin.hk convention in 2014:
http://my.tv.sohu.com/us/201860874/69946081.shtml

Given the number of atendees in that event, the claim of 3000 victims now seems more credible.

The gray-haired Westerner may be William Dennis Atwood, the director of the parent company who seem to have left shortly before MyCoin.hk collapsed.  
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Indeed, so far there are 43 confirmed victims. 

Maybe there will be a 100 or so in total.
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February 11, 2015, 06:59:58 PM

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February 11, 2015, 07:05:07 PM

I think that most ppl always overestimate the change that will occur in the next few years and underestimate the change that will occur in the next ten.


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February 11, 2015, 07:08:19 PM



as i said...it was about the quote...i didnt even care about the picture
"We all remember the soviet advance into Ukraine and into Germany very well. This has to be prevented and nobody has the right to rewrite the results of the second world war." (c) Jazenjuk...this was also only one point...this happened at an interview with the ARD (the main public german tv channel...i dont know if you have anything similar in the usa)...my point was that things like these happened a lot in the last months but there is no public discussion about it...the same with odessa where they trapped people in a building and set it on fire...whoever came out got shot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4dJRnI-X8Q   how do you reply to this...is this a made up lie for you?

I wasn't there. But as far as I can gather Russia attacked Ukraine, people got angry, shit happened. If you think you have figured it all out from that video then good for you. I do know that people were a bit on edge in that region because there were rumors that Russia would try to send provocateurs to Transnistria through there. I don't know why Russia would do that (Transnistria is very pro-russian as it is), but that was the rumor.

it's good that you finally admit that you have no idea what is going on there...it is just one video...yes...this is why i said i am into this topic for months and it is not explainable in a board as a sidetopic...(actually it is about a year especially the ukraine problem, i didn't consider the maidan movement a real threat in the beginning)...anyway...since you don't want to get to gain more knowledge about that topic, we can talk about bitcoin again

Yeez, ok. You have a funny way of "gaining knowledge". You seem so hooked up on reading between the lines that you can't make out what the text actually says. If you look up the parties of the current government on wikipedia you will find what those parties stand for. That is why they were elected and that is what the people want. If some of those politicians are secretly assholes then they will be no different from any other political party in the world. I even showed you a video that showed that the prime ministers salute was an innocent hand gesture and you proceeded to moan on about the text under that same picture I had just proved to be propaganda even when I had asked you several times to be more critical of your sources. Another thing, people say stupid things all the time, you have to look at the whole picture. Yes, there are nazis in Ukraine, of course they run front and center when Russia invades Ukraine. Yes, Yatsenyuks comments about Germany during the second world war is a massive brain fart.

Ukraine was pulled out of one of the worst humanitarian catastrophes in the world until then into another. They struggle to paint it black and white. The greatest farming nation in Europe had to suffer a famine that cost between 2.5 and 7.5 million deaths because of soviet policies. And soviet death squads rolled up in trucks to shoot anyone who made any resistance. After this the germans were viewed with different eyes by many ukranians than in other countries. Ironically Ukraine was one the countries that were hardest hit by the german terror, and it didn't make it better that a significant portion of ukranians were collaborators. And after the ukranian independence they have have tended to focus more on their role as victim than their many collaborators. That makes them ignorant in this regard, but not nazis. I hope the new democratic Ukraine will take a harder look at their past, but that is not the most pressing matter today.
you are not getting my point...just let it rest...ok? this is not worldpoliticstalk.org anyway
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February 11, 2015, 07:39:19 PM

@fatman. It makes no sense to talk about it anyway. I said it took me months to know what i know. I read in Every Direction. This is fucked. And i can assure You that giving the kiev leaders weapons will not soften that Problem.
Why are they the ukrainian leaders? Half of the country was not even allowed to vote
Nothing personal, but after months of reading you are further from the truth that you was before it. If you assume that you know absolutely nothing about EU, Germany, Greece, USA, Russia and Ukraine, you would be closer to the truth than you are now.

There are two prerequisites to reading about money/politics:
1. You have to assume that most of what you are reading is a lie. It can be the lie the author believes in himself, like it's with Marxism, Christianity or democracy, but it is lie nerveless.
2. You should be able to tell a lie from the truth. It's not that easy as it seems. You enemy are not outside only - your biggest enemy is your own desire to believe in what you want to be truth.

I can't tell about myself, but most of people lack these prerequisites and fall easy prey to all kinds of bastards, that feeding them with all kinds of lies, to get their money/support. I'm afraid, you are among their victims.

tl;dr; The books/articles you are reading are poisoned. Unless you are immune to poisons, just keep away from them!
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@fatman. It makes no sense to talk about it anyway. I said it took me months to know what i know. I read in Every Direction. This is fucked. And i can assure You that giving the kiev leaders weapons will not soften that Problem.
Why are they the ukrainian leaders? Half of the country was not even allowed to vote
Nothing personal, but after months of reading you are further from the truth that you was before it. If you assume that you know absolutely nothing about EU, Germany, Greece, USA, Russia and Ukraine, you would be closer to the truth than you are now.

There are two prerequisites to reading about money/politics:
1. You have to assume that most of what you are reading is a lie. It can be the lie the author believes in himself, like it's with Marxism, Christianity or democracy, but it is lie nerveless.
2. You should be able to tell a lie from the truth. It's not that easy as it seems. You enemy are not outside only - your biggest enemy is your own desire to believe in what you want to be truth.

I can't tell about myself, but most of people lack these prerequisites and fall easy prey to all kinds of bastards, that feeding them with all kinds of lies, to get their money/support. I'm afraid, you are among their victims.

tl;dr; The books/articles you are reading are poisoned. Unless you are immune to poisons, just keep away from them!

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as i said...it was about the quote...i didnt even care about the picture
"We all remember the soviet advance into Ukraine and into Germany very well. This has to be prevented and nobody has the right to rewrite the results of the second world war." (c) Jazenjuk...this was also only one point...this happened at an interview with the ARD (the main public german tv channel...i dont know if you have anything similar in the usa)...my point was that things like these happened a lot in the last months but there is no public discussion about it...the same with odessa where they trapped people in a building and set it on fire...whoever came out got shot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4dJRnI-X8Q   how do you reply to this...is this a made up lie for you?

I wasn't there. But as far as I can gather Russia attacked Ukraine, people got angry, shit happened. If you think you have figured it all out from that video then good for you. I do know that people were a bit on edge in that region because there were rumors that Russia would try to send provocateurs to Transnistria through there. I don't know why Russia would do that (Transnistria is very pro-russian as it is), but that was the rumor.

it's good that you finally admit that you have no idea what is going on there...it is just one video...yes...this is why i said i am into this topic for months and it is not explainable in a board as a sidetopic...(actually it is about a year especially the ukraine problem, i didn't consider the maidan movement a real threat in the beginning)...anyway...since you don't want to get to gain more knowledge about that topic, we can talk about bitcoin again

Yeez, ok. You have a funny way of "gaining knowledge". You seem so hooked up on reading between the lines that you can't make out what the text actually says. If you look up the parties of the current government on wikipedia you will find what those parties stand for. That is why they were elected and that is what the people want. If some of those politicians are secretly assholes then they will be no different from any other political party in the world. I even showed you a video that showed that the prime ministers salute was an innocent hand gesture and you proceeded to moan on about the text under that same picture I had just proved to be propaganda even when I had asked you several times to be more critical of your sources. Another thing, people say stupid things all the time, you have to look at the whole picture. Yes, there are nazis in Ukraine, of course they run front and center when Russia invades Ukraine. Yes, Yatsenyuks comments about Germany during the second world war is a massive brain fart.

Ukraine was pulled out of one of the worst humanitarian catastrophes in the world until then into another. They struggle to paint it black and white. The greatest farming nation in Europe had to suffer a famine that cost between 2.5 and 7.5 million deaths because of soviet policies. And soviet death squads rolled up in trucks to shoot anyone who made any resistance. After this the germans were viewed with different eyes by many ukranians than in other countries. Ironically Ukraine was one the countries that were hardest hit by the german terror, and it didn't make it better that a significant portion of ukranians were collaborators. And after the ukranian independence they have have tended to focus more on their role as victim than their many collaborators. That makes them ignorant in this regard, but not nazis. I hope the new democratic Ukraine will take a harder look at their past, but that is not the most pressing matter today.
you are not getting my point...just let it rest...ok? this is not worldpoliticstalk.org anyway

I don't accept your point. I disagree with you. If you want to think that means that I don't get it, then you're welcome to do so.
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Lucrative buying opportunity, bulls.  Last chance to etc., etc.
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February 11, 2015, 08:01:30 PM

@fatman. It makes no sense to talk about it anyway. I said it took me months to know what i know. I read in Every Direction. This is fucked. And i can assure You that giving the kiev leaders weapons will not soften that Problem.
Why are they the ukrainian leaders? Half of the country was not even allowed to vote
Nothing personal, but after months of reading you are further from the truth that you was before it. If you assume that you know absolutely nothing about EU, Germany, Greece, USA, Russia and Ukraine, you would be closer to the truth than you are now.

There are two prerequisites to reading about money/politics:
1. You have to assume that most of what you are reading is a lie. It can be the lie the author believes in himself, like it's with Marxism, Christianity or democracy, but it is lie nerveless.
2. You should be able to tell a lie from the truth. It's not that easy as it seems. You enemy are not outside only - your biggest enemy is your own desire to believe in what you want to be truth.

I can't tell about myself, but most of people lack these prerequisites and fall easy prey to all kinds of bastards, that feeding them with all kinds of lies, to get their money/support. I'm afraid, you are among their victims.

tl;dr; The books/articles you are reading are poisoned. Unless you are immune to poisons, just keep away from them!

I'm curious what books/articles you'd recommend, if there are any.
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We´re going down!

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Looks like we're finally going down
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Looks like we're finally going down

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Would be nice if it could finally break down and break $210 but I'm afriad there is no momentum yet, in 4 days minimum it should happen for sure tho.
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