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February 14, 2015, 04:32:46 PM

oh look a unicorn
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February 14, 2015, 04:45:34 PM

diamonds guns bonds and exxon stock ...
Really? I mean, really really?
Diamonds? Man.
Bonds? Excuse me.
Guns? What an investment is that?
Exxon stock? How about some ENRON? Heard they did great in the past.
-hardest known material with industrial application plus shiny for jewelry ... people do still get married yknow ... they have gained in value ... though not rapidly and not recently ... less than 1% of net ...
-bonds have made me money as well roughly 0.5% - 1% a year ... safe easy money i don't need to pay any attention to ... make up 1-2% of net ...
-guns is more of a collection ... some would count as antique art ... the others serve to protect the physical metals and yknow ... my person ... cops won't help you in a home invasion ... have you ever had a gun held to your head ? ... i have ... so i consider them money well spent ... the value of firearms have actually increased quite a bit as material costs have gone up and manufacturers jack the prices up accordingly ... maybe 2% of net
-my exxon stock has split 4 times since i've owned it and gained in value double digit %s as well ... exxon is last i checked the largest global petrochemical / energy company in the world ... not just oil ... large industrial infrastructure extremely different from ENRON which was basically an improperly (illegally) run futures trading market ... actually exxon and enron couldn't be much more different ... it has done very well so well i rarely check it ... 5% of net
... 15%fiat/btc never greater than 10:1 cash:btc ... 1% diamond 1% bond 2% gun 5% exxon 5% gold/silver ... with the remaining 70ish% real estate (which has tripled since grabbing all of that after us real estate bubble burst in 08/09) ... i'm doing just fine with my almost all solid physical conservative investments ... don't you worry about me ... i'm at low %s on the slow stuff ... low %s on the speculative ... mostly real estate and well timed ... but seriously i wish you luck if you've got more than 50% of your money tied up in a speculative ledger currency that has established the bulk of it's value in the last couple of years ... don't take your eyes off the screen ...

Having a bit of FIAT : OK
Real estate after a crash : OK
But please, don't advice people to buy things like diamonds, guns, bonds and stocks... please, this is ridiculous and terrible advice.

If people want to diversify, they can buy some gold and silver when it's low.



actually you should own a few guns and a lot of lead. you are giving really bad advice telling people to not exercise their constitutional rights. the minimum a person should own is at least one ar-15 and 5000 factory rounds that is kept stored and another 1000 rounds for shooting that you reload. i stay well above these minimums and so does my family.

you are right about bonds and stocks. i would never own any of that paper garbage. if you own that toxic stuff then it is your own fault when you get caugfht on the 'big block of cheese day' .. you had plenty of time to prepare so when you start crying about it i am going to remind you of this facts. hell gold and silver has been artificially low for last two years. plenty of time.
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February 14, 2015, 04:52:34 PM

Waw great news we can see the sun again .
The bitcoin price stopped at 215 for 3 weeks , I heard that paypal will integrate 20 % of bitcoin payment system this year
and will develope it , I hope they did more because bitcoin price will go to the moon then
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February 14, 2015, 04:52:52 PM

diamonds guns bonds and exxon stock ...
Really? I mean, really really?
Diamonds? Man.
Bonds? Excuse me.
Guns? What an investment is that?
Exxon stock? How about some ENRON? Heard they did great in the past.
-hardest known material with industrial application plus shiny for jewelry ... people do still get married yknow ... they have gained in value ... though not rapidly and not recently ... less than 1% of net ...
-bonds have made me money as well roughly 0.5% - 1% a year ... safe easy money i don't need to pay any attention to ... make up 1-2% of net ...
-guns is more of a collection ... some would count as antique art ... the others serve to protect the physical metals and yknow ... my person ... cops won't help you in a home invasion ... have you ever had a gun held to your head ? ... i have ... so i consider them money well spent ... the value of firearms have actually increased quite a bit as material costs have gone up and manufacturers jack the prices up accordingly ... maybe 2% of net
-my exxon stock has split 4 times since i've owned it and gained in value double digit %s as well ... exxon is last i checked the largest global petrochemical / energy company in the world ... not just oil ... large industrial infrastructure extremely different from ENRON which was basically an improperly (illegally) run futures trading market ... actually exxon and enron couldn't be much more different ... it has done very well so well i rarely check it ... 5% of net
... 15%fiat/btc never greater than 10:1 cash:btc ... 1% diamond 1% bond 2% gun 5% exxon 5% gold/silver ... with the remaining 70ish% real estate (which has tripled since grabbing all of that after us real estate bubble burst in 08/09) ... i'm doing just fine with my almost all solid physical conservative investments ... don't you worry about me ... i'm at low %s on the slow stuff ... low %s on the speculative ... mostly real estate and well timed ... but seriously i wish you luck if you've got more than 50% of your money tied up in a speculative ledger currency that has established the bulk of it's value in the last couple of years ... don't take your eyes off the screen ...

Having a bit of FIAT : OK
Real estate after a crash : OK
But please, don't advice people to buy things like diamonds, guns, bonds and stocks... please, this is ridiculous and terrible advice.

If people want to diversify, they can buy some gold and silver when it's low.




It is typical for a btc holder to advise buying silver.  Silver had a bubble, crashed back to its reasonable value a few years ago, and has been there ever since.  Money bought in on the way down, similar to btc is now sitting there waiting, aka holding forever.  The only difference is silver is time tested so one day it will go up, btc is not.



bullshiat .. this shows your total complete ignorance on the subject. there never was a bubble and it never crashed. it was manipulated lower for reasons likely beyond your IQ level to understand .
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February 14, 2015, 04:57:55 PM

diamonds guns bonds and exxon stock ...
Really? I mean, really really?
Diamonds? Man.
Bonds? Excuse me.
Guns? What an investment is that?
Exxon stock? How about some ENRON? Heard they did great in the past.
-hardest known material with industrial application plus shiny for jewelry ... people do still get married yknow ... they have gained in value ... though not rapidly and not recently ... less than 1% of net ...
-bonds have made me money as well roughly 0.5% - 1% a year ... safe easy money i don't need to pay any attention to ... make up 1-2% of net ...
-guns is more of a collection ... some would count as antique art ... the others serve to protect the physical metals and yknow ... my person ... cops won't help you in a home invasion ... have you ever had a gun held to your head ? ... i have ... so i consider them money well spent ... the value of firearms have actually increased quite a bit as material costs have gone up and manufacturers jack the prices up accordingly ... maybe 2% of net
-my exxon stock has split 4 times since i've owned it and gained in value double digit %s as well ... exxon is last i checked the largest global petrochemical / energy company in the world ... not just oil ... large industrial infrastructure extremely different from ENRON which was basically an improperly (illegally) run futures trading market ... actually exxon and enron couldn't be much more different ... it has done very well so well i rarely check it ... 5% of net
... 15%fiat/btc never greater than 10:1 cash:btc ... 1% diamond 1% bond 2% gun 5% exxon 5% gold/silver ... with the remaining 70ish% real estate (which has tripled since grabbing all of that after us real estate bubble burst in 08/09) ... i'm doing just fine with my almost all solid physical conservative investments ... don't you worry about me ... i'm at low %s on the slow stuff ... low %s on the speculative ... mostly real estate and well timed ... but seriously i wish you luck if you've got more than 50% of your money tied up in a speculative ledger currency that has established the bulk of it's value in the last couple of years ... don't take your eyes off the screen ...

Having a bit of FIAT : OK
Real estate after a crash : OK
But please, don't advice people to buy things like diamonds, guns, bonds and stocks... please, this is ridiculous and terrible advice.

If people want to diversify, they can buy some gold and silver when it's low.



actually you should own a few guns and a lot of lead. you are giving really bad advice telling people to not exercise their constitutional rights. the minimum a person should own is at least one ar-15 and 5000 factory rounds that is kept stored and another 1000 rounds for shooting that you reload. i stay well above these minimums and so does my family.

you are right about bonds and stocks. i would never own any of that paper garbage. if you own that toxic stuff then it is your own fault when you get caugfht on the 'big block of cheese day' .. you had plenty of time to prepare so when you start crying about it i am going to remind you of this facts. hell gold and silver has been artificially low for last two years. plenty of time.

WTF man. Don't tell the sheeple that.  How am I going to be king of zombie land if everyone else has a gun.
Btw I am sure that many gun manufacturers and importers are publicly traded.  So if you believe in firearms and their existence so much, you should believe in the companies that supply them.
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February 14, 2015, 05:05:49 PM

diamonds guns bonds and exxon stock ...
Really? I mean, really really?
Diamonds? Man.
Bonds? Excuse me.
Guns? What an investment is that?
Exxon stock? How about some ENRON? Heard they did great in the past.
-hardest known material with industrial application plus shiny for jewelry ... people do still get married yknow ... they have gained in value ... though not rapidly and not recently ... less than 1% of net ...
-bonds have made me money as well roughly 0.5% - 1% a year ... safe easy money i don't need to pay any attention to ... make up 1-2% of net ...
-guns is more of a collection ... some would count as antique art ... the others serve to protect the physical metals and yknow ... my person ... cops won't help you in a home invasion ... have you ever had a gun held to your head ? ... i have ... so i consider them money well spent ... the value of firearms have actually increased quite a bit as material costs have gone up and manufacturers jack the prices up accordingly ... maybe 2% of net
-my exxon stock has split 4 times since i've owned it and gained in value double digit %s as well ... exxon is last i checked the largest global petrochemical / energy company in the world ... not just oil ... large industrial infrastructure extremely different from ENRON which was basically an improperly (illegally) run futures trading market ... actually exxon and enron couldn't be much more different ... it has done very well so well i rarely check it ... 5% of net
... 15%fiat/btc never greater than 10:1 cash:btc ... 1% diamond 1% bond 2% gun 5% exxon 5% gold/silver ... with the remaining 70ish% real estate (which has tripled since grabbing all of that after us real estate bubble burst in 08/09) ... i'm doing just fine with my almost all solid physical conservative investments ... don't you worry about me ... i'm at low %s on the slow stuff ... low %s on the speculative ... mostly real estate and well timed ... but seriously i wish you luck if you've got more than 50% of your money tied up in a speculative ledger currency that has established the bulk of it's value in the last couple of years ... don't take your eyes off the screen ...

Having a bit of FIAT : OK
Real estate after a crash : OK
But please, don't advice people to buy things like diamonds, guns, bonds and stocks... please, this is ridiculous and terrible advice.

If people want to diversify, they can buy some gold and silver when it's low.




It is typical for a btc holder to advise buying silver.  Silver had a bubble, crashed back to its reasonable value a few years ago, and has been there ever since.  Money bought in on the way down, similar to btc is now sitting there waiting, aka holding forever.  The only difference is silver is time tested so one day it will go up, btc is not.



bullshiat .. this shows your total complete ignorance on the subject. there never was a bubble and it never crashed. it was manipulated lower for reasons likely beyond your IQ level to understand .


Coming from someone who thinks stocks are for idiots, I am pretty sure I understand finance better than you ever will.
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February 14, 2015, 05:12:58 PM

Technical pump over, back to reality.
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February 14, 2015, 05:14:20 PM

What is the best strategy now buy or sell ?
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February 14, 2015, 05:14:53 PM

What is the break point? 254$ ?
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February 14, 2015, 05:16:44 PM

What is the break point? 254$ ?
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February 14, 2015, 05:18:35 PM

What is the best strategy now buy or sell ?

best would have been: closed long at 250 and short a bit above it.

As said. In the end nothing changed in Bitcoin. This pump was mainly created by pure day-trader caused by technical signals.

Daytraders don't bring value to the market in the end. I guess this will retrace like it did at the Coinbase pump...
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February 14, 2015, 05:19:40 PM

Technical pump over, back to reality.

Hmmmm ,, so theoretically, if someone had opened a short position at, oh let's say, 249.60...

What would be the target to close said position?

Theoretically, of course.  Roll Eyes

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February 14, 2015, 05:21:53 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland. Another small step up and forward I see.

Happy Valentine's Day for those with any love (or lust) in their hearts, bulls and bears alike.

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February 14, 2015, 05:30:10 PM

holy shit what is that bull doing with the bear ?!?!
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February 14, 2015, 05:31:16 PM

What is the best strategy now buy or sell ?

best would have been: closed long at 250 and short a bit above it.

As said. In the end nothing changed in Bitcoin. This pump was mainly created by pure day-trader caused by technical signals.

Daytraders don't bring value to the market in the end. I guess this will retrace like it did at the Coinbase pump...
Ah thanks , I can say the best strategy now is keep sell all my coins until the pump ends they buy again
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February 14, 2015, 05:33:25 PM

Technical pump over, back to reality.

Hmmmm ,, so theoretically, if someone had opened a short position at, oh let's say, 249.60...

What would be the target to close said position?

Theoretically, of course.  Roll Eyes

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would say something above 240 and look for another short at the bounce maybe even a long at 240 and look if the bounce has more power the maybe even get to a new high.. nobody knows
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February 14, 2015, 05:35:42 PM

What is the best strategy now buy or sell ?

best would have been: closed long at 250 and short a bit above it.

As said. In the end nothing changed in Bitcoin. This pump was mainly created by pure day-trader caused by technical signals.

Daytraders don't bring value to the market in the end. I guess this will retrace like it did at the Coinbase pump...

Attention..book talker detected!
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February 14, 2015, 05:36:10 PM

holy shit what is that bull doing with the bear ?!?!

A little trans-species lovin' in honor of Valentine's Day.  Cheesy

Nature knows no bounds.

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20141117-why-seals-have-sex-with-penguins

 Smiley Wink Cheesy Grin Cool
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February 14, 2015, 05:44:25 PM

holy shit what is that bull doing with the bear ?!?!

A little trans-species lovin' in honor of Valentine's Day.  Cheesy

Nature knows no bounds.

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20141117-why-seals-have-sex-with-penguins

 Smiley Wink Cheesy Grin Cool


"Seals have capacity for learning - we know this from their foraging behaviour for example," explained de Bruyn.
So male seals may see each other coercing penguins, then attempt it themselves.
That might explain why the number of incidents appears to be increasing. "I genuinely think the behaviour is increasing in frequency."

bubble mode    Grin Grin
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