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Bitcoin at least provides an accurate ledger of who owns what. The current system has hopelessly obfuscated ownership of assets in a cascade of derivatives.

I'm glad that you enjoy knowing that 1LolIStolededURCoinzKthxBai has your Bitcoin.  Good luck doing anything with that Smiley

Haha, Ummm, wut? Did bitcoin get hacked? The protocol got broked?

I control the keys. No one can move the coins but me. If you are uncomfortable with being responsible for the security of your own finances, then by all means, feel free to entrust them to a third party.




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February 15, 2015, 05:56:28 PM

So everyone reading this forum should just believe that a non scalable, irreversible (0 consumer protection), very-easy-to steal, ridiculously volatile, bullshit distributed, china megamines powered pyramid scheme currency is gonna suddenly replace every fiat currency, central bank, need for monetary policy etc?


You bitcoiners don't know how the world works have some wild imagination, I gotta give you that.

Oh well....

Here's to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.


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Yeah, but some dreams can be reasonable, some of them are plain delusions.
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Yeah, but some dreams can be reasonable, some of them are plain delusions.

Yes. I like to see which ones succeed and which ones don't.
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February 15, 2015, 05:59:08 PM

So everyone reading this forum should just believe that a non scalable, irreversible (0 consumer protection), very-easy-to steal, ridiculously volatile, bullshit distributed, china megamines powered pyramid scheme currency is gonna suddenly replace every fiat currency, central bank, need for monetary policy etc?


You bitcoiners don't know how the world works have some wild imagination, I gotta give you that.

Oh well....

Here's to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.


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Apple is no stranger to bullshit, that's for sure.  Cheesy
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February 15, 2015, 06:01:04 PM

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Bitcoin at least provides an accurate ledger of who owns what. The current system has hopelessly obfuscated ownership of assets in a cascade of derivatives.

I'm glad that you enjoy knowing that 1LolIStolededURCoinzKthxBai has your Bitcoin.  Good luck doing anything with that Smiley

Haha, Ummm, wut? Did bitcoin get hacked? The protocol got broked?

I control the keys. No one can move the coins but me. If you are uncomfortable with being responsible for the security of your own finances, then by all means, feel free to entrust them to a third party.

No.  Bitcoin doesn't need to be hacked for you to lose your coin.  Was Bitcoin hacked when Pirate owned you?  When TradeFortress owned you? When MagicalTux owned you?  When stamp got pwnt?  When this, latest "exchange," allegedly got owned?

But sure, your coin is perfectly secure.  Just don't try to use it.
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February 15, 2015, 06:02:25 PM

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Bitcoin at least provides an accurate ledger of who owns what. The current system has hopelessly obfuscated ownership of assets in a cascade of derivatives.

I'm glad that you enjoy knowing that 1LolIStolededURCoinzKthxBai has your Bitcoin.  Good luck doing anything with that Smiley

Haha, Ummm, wut? Did bitcoin get hacked? The protocol got broked?

I control the keys. No one can move the coins but me. If you are uncomfortable with being responsible for the security of your own finances, then by all means, feel free to entrust them to a third party.





Bitcoin is very secure for you if you don't have to move your money around and if you keep it in cold storage HODLING dreaming of riches.
As long as you don't have to use it as a currency (woops) for every-day use, bitcoin is very secure.

Then sure, someone could simply pay less than a billion dollars to attack the network, or pay some miners to form cartels and effectively destroy the network and render your precious cold storage coinz useless destroying confidence in any proof-of-work cryptocurrency, but we don't talk about that.
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February 15, 2015, 06:02:36 PM

So everyone reading this forum should just believe that a non scalable, irreversible (0 consumer protection), very-easy-to steal, ridiculously volatile, bullshit distributed, china megamines powered pyramid scheme currency is gonna suddenly replace every fiat currency, central bank, need for monetary policy etc?


You bitcoiners don't know how the world works have some wild imagination, I gotta give you that.

Oh well....

Here's to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.


― Apple Inc

Stop dreaming and thus stop living.
Yeah, but some dreams can be reasonable, some of them are plain delusions.

you are literally quoting a commercial statement from a commercial the was made to sell iwhatnots ... from a multi billion dollar company ... and im not saying they make bad shit ... their shit is good ... but that statement has NOTHING to do with actual tech innovation ... and even less to do with any kind of rebel genius mindset ... and was NOT made at a time when innovation was the primary function of apple ...
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So everyone reading this forum should just believe that a non scalable, irreversible (0 consumer protection), very-easy-to steal, ridiculously volatile, bullshit distributed, china megamines powered pyramid scheme currency is gonna suddenly replace every fiat currency, central bank, need for monetary policy etc?


I think everyone reading this forum should be free to believe whatever they want.

Isn't it wonderful? If you don't like it, you can get the fuck out any time you choose.

Cheers.
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So everyone reading this forum should just believe that a non scalable, irreversible (0 consumer protection), very-easy-to steal, ridiculously volatile, bullshit distributed, china megamines powered pyramid scheme currency is gonna suddenly replace every fiat currency, central bank, need for monetary policy etc?


I think everyone reading this forum should be free to believe whatever they want.

Isn't it wonderful? If you don't like it, you can get the fuck out any time you choose.

Cheers.
You are free to believe whatever you want, have I ever told you the opposite?
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So everyone reading this forum should just believe that a non scalable, irreversible (0 consumer protection), very-easy-to steal, ridiculously volatile, bullshit distributed, china megamines powered pyramid scheme currency is gonna suddenly replace every fiat currency, central bank, need for monetary policy etc?


I think everyone reading this forum should be free to believe whatever they want.

Isn't it wonderful? If you don't like it, you can get the fuck out any time you choose.

Cheers.

yeah except we cant get out of the capitalist system - make money or starve to death are the 2 choices presented to us
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Here's to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.


― Apple Inc

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TL;DR: Apple marketing team flatters rejects.  Rejects suspect nothing, feel validated.  Rejoice.
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Edit: too late, 12345mm beat me to it.
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... but that statement has NOTHING to do with actual tech innovation ...

A lot of progress in the past was done by people ignoring naysayers or even defying corporal punishment. I keep that in mind when reading all those troll posts.
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February 15, 2015, 06:13:09 PM

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Bitcoin at least provides an accurate ledger of who owns what. The current system has hopelessly obfuscated ownership of assets in a cascade of derivatives.

I'm glad that you enjoy knowing that 1LolIStolededURCoinzKthxBai has your Bitcoin.  Good luck doing anything with that Smiley

Haha, Ummm, wut? Did bitcoin get hacked? The protocol got broked?

I control the keys. No one can move the coins but me. If you are uncomfortable with being responsible for the security of your own finances, then by all means, feel free to entrust them to a third party.

No.  Bitcoin doesn't need to be hacked for you to lose your coin.  Was Bitcoin hacked when Pirate owned you?  When TradeFortress owned you? When MagicalTux owned you?  When stamp got pwnt?  When this, latest "exchange," allegedly got owned?

But sure, your coin is perfectly secure.  Just don't try to use it.

Lol, settle down buddy,

Every single institution you just named required you to voluntarily hand over control of your bitcoin.

You're getting quite aggressive today. Perhaps it's time for a nap?
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February 15, 2015, 06:13:43 PM

... but that statement has NOTHING to do with actual tech innovation ...

A lot of progress in the past was done by people ignoring naysayers or even defying corporal punishment. I keep that in mind when reading all those troll posts.

Ignore the naysayers, the have no clue.  Just a few more tweaks, you almost got it...  

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February 15, 2015, 06:14:54 PM

... but that statement has NOTHING to do with actual tech innovation ...

A lot of progress in the past was done by people ignoring naysayers or even defying corporal punishment. I keep that in mind when reading all those troll posts.

Ignore the naysayers, the have no clue.  Just a few more tweaks, you almost got it...  



That works, no joke Wink
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February 15, 2015, 06:18:55 PM

bitcoin is perfect - so long as you never trade it on any exchange for fiat cash or ever use it on any online gambling sites or any games whatsoever or ever use any escrow service at all or basically use it to buy anything - it's 100% safe - all you have to do is keep it on your flash drive and never use it !
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February 15, 2015, 06:19:16 PM

make money or starve to death

That's pretty much the way things work.

You can try to force the ones that make money to pay for the needs of those that don't, but in practice it doesn't turn out well.
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Bitcoin at least provides an accurate ledger of who owns what. The current system has hopelessly obfuscated ownership of assets in a cascade of derivatives.

I'm glad that you enjoy knowing that 1LolIStolededURCoinzKthxBai has your Bitcoin.  Good luck doing anything with that Smiley

Haha, Ummm, wut? Did bitcoin get hacked? The protocol got broked?

I control the keys. No one can move the coins but me. If you are uncomfortable with being responsible for the security of your own finances, then by all means, feel free to entrust them to a third party.

No.  Bitcoin doesn't need to be hacked for you to lose your coin.  Was Bitcoin hacked when Pirate owned you?  When TradeFortress owned you? When MagicalTux owned you?  When stamp got pwnt?  When this, latest "exchange," allegedly got owned?

But sure, your coin is perfectly secure.  Just don't try to use it.

[faggotry]
Every single institution you just named required you to voluntarily hand over control of your bitcoin.
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Well yeah, using it.
In most scenarios (including trading) there is a point at which you have neither control of the coin nor the stuff saidcoin is buying.
That's the point when bad things happen, shmadz Undecided
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February 15, 2015, 06:23:59 PM

So everyone reading this forum should just believe that a non scalable, irreversible (0 consumer protection), very-easy-to steal, ridiculously volatile, bullshit distributed, china megamines powered pyramid scheme currency is gonna suddenly replace every fiat currency, central bank, need for monetary policy etc?


You bitcoiners don't know how the world works have some wild imagination, I gotta give you that.

Oh well....

Here's to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.


― Apple Inc

Stop dreaming and thus stop living.
Yeah, but some dreams can be reasonable, some of them are plain delusions.

you are literally quoting a commercial statement from a commercial the was made to sell iwhatnots ... from a multi billion dollar company ... and im not saying they make bad shit ... their shit is good ... but that statement has NOTHING to do with actual tech innovation ... and even less to do with any kind of rebel genius mindset ... and was NOT made at a time when innovation was the primary function of apple ...

Ideas are dangerous things in the hands of children. If you're going to take that ad for being anything more than empty words pretending to mean something, then the message is quite nietzschean and beyond elitist. Now, Nietzsche was no fascist, he even had a correspondence with Wagner where he denied the concept of an übervolk, but in light of wagnerism and fascism this doesn't sit well with me.
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