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[billyjoeallen]

The next few days will be interesting if we can hold where we are now.  To many shorts now along with longs and this leveraged fiasco isn't going to end well which ever way it goes. 

Losses will be catastrophic one way or another.

I don't think many of the longs are excessively leveraged. I am wagering that there are many more of them who are leveraged to a smaller degree. I know I am. You'd have to dump to double digits to force my margin call, and that's only if I don't post more margin by then. The long squeeze to ~$166 should have taught us all a lesson. The short squeeze to $475 was far enough back that it might have slipped down the memory hole for some of the bears.

[NotLambchop]

...I'm talking about initiating physical violence or threat of violence, and I'd like to hear someone make an argument defending doing that...

I lived in several US states allowing me to use violence to protect my property.  You [nonviolently] come on my property, I shoot you in the face.
What's wrong with that?

That's why I very specifically wrote "INITIATING" physical violence. Self defense and defense of one's property is not initiation. Can you fucking read or do I have to ignore you again?

By being a sexist bigot you are initiating violence.  Stop triggering me brah.  Clearly I wouldn't shoot you in the face unless you incited & richly deserved it.

In order to incite you, I would have to have the ability to control your actions with words. Do you lack self control to the degree that I can do that?

You clearly are controlling my actions with words--you call me nigger bitch, I shoot you in the face.  What's so hard to understand here?

you also missed this:

No.  "Violence" is not binary, it's very creepy and analog-gradienty.  Theft is violence.  Farting through silk and not sharing while others starve is violence.  Private property is violence.  Violence begets violence.

If you have the inability to YOUR OWN actions, then you have a problem.
Your words aren't controlling MY actions. Not anymore. Yer back on the ignore list.

Typical libertard:  "Facts and reality contradict my intrinsically inconsistent ideology?  Lol, ur ignord!"

[oda.krell]

Ok, I'm gonna step into this whirlpool and note that the likes of silverfurtune and billyjoeallen have been real intellectual boons to this thread. The trolls have went into hibernation when the bosses have taken hold of the reigns. Primarily, Mr SF ad BJA have made their points and are moving on to their next ones, soon. I just want to say thx to the bosses in due time.

Thanks, Man. Please don't feel the need to defend me against charges of racism, sexism or whatever the crimethink de jour is. Whatever my moral flaws, the reason why I advocate Bicoin is because it is money that doesn't need force or coercion in order to function.

Which would y'all rather have as a neighbor, a racist sexist homophobic who believes in the NonAggression Principle or an egalitarian who wants to make everyone equal by sticking guns in their faces?

Freedom means you have to put up with some unpleasant people with unpleasant ideas, but you don't have to put up with threats of violence by those who claim to be peaceful while having the State do their dirty work for them.

Ideally, I'd have the egalitarian non-aggression principle abiding guy for a neighbor, but your point stands.

Confirming what Ramsay said: good to read your stuff in this sea of troll bile. Don't always agree with it, but it's rarely lazy thinking (the worst crime, intellectually speaking).

another false dilemma.

you cant really be sexist/homophob/racist and a nonagression believer at the same time because being sexist/homophob/racist implies aggression.

Well then: if I present a false dilemma, you present a false conflation. In reality, most homophobes / sexists / racists *don't * follow non aggression. Far from it. But that's an empirical result, not a necessity.

I claim I personally  *do* know people that, by terminology of my peers would count as sexist, in the sense that they don't believe in biological equivalence of abilities of men and women. However, neither do they act like dicks about, or join bullshit movements like mrm. I'd argue that type of person is someone who you could reasonably call an non violent sexist. If you prefer to reserve the term for the violent kind however, fair enough as well.

in a modern world full of ak47, m16 and other machinery the "biological equivalence of abilities of men and women" sounds like the women are only not able to join dick swinging contests. nothing more.

try to marry some of those guys and you will find out the meaning of the word violence.

Yeah, see this is where bja is precisely right: by your own standards, anyone holding an opinion that makes him unpalatable to you to marry has an unacceptable opinion (societally speaking).

I prefer my society (and principles) to be slightly more permissive for variety of ideas than that.

[aztecminer]

The next few days will be interesting if we can hold where we are now.  To many shorts now along with longs and this leveraged fiasco isn't going to end well which ever way it goes.  

Losses will be catastrophic one way or another.

I don't think many of the longs are excessively leveraged. I am wagering that there are many more of them who are leveraged to a smaller degree. I know I am. You'd have to dump to double digits to force my margin call, and that's only if I don't post more margin by then. The long squeeze to ~$166 should have taught us all a lesson. The short squeeze to $475 was far enough back that it might have slipped down the memory hole for some of the bears.

we have to break through 240 ...again... first.....silly me how i thought the 166 'HAMMER TIME' was a buying opportunity.

[billyjoeallen]

in a modern world full of ak47, m16 and other machinery the "biological equivalence of abilities of men and women" sounds to me like women are only missed in dick swinging contests.

try to marry some of those guys and you will find out the meaning of the word violence.

What a load of crap. How many top level women chess players are there? Poker players? How many Nobel prize-winning scientists? Top engineers? They exist, but the percentages are tiny. If humanity was all women who reproduced asexually, we'd all be living in very well-decorated mud huts.

Women's brains are different. They have less grey matter and more connective tissue. So do psychopaths.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Getting bored of checking the price every day ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

Wake me up in 10 years.

[damiano]

The next few days will be interesting if we can hold where we are now.  To many shorts now along with longs and this leveraged fiasco isn't going to end well which ever way it goes. 

Losses will be catastrophic one way or another.

I don't think many of the longs are excessively leveraged. I am wagering that there are many more of them who are leveraged to a smaller degree. I know I am. You'd have to dump to double digits to force my margin call, and that's only if I don't post more margin by then. The long squeeze to ~$166 should have taught us all a lesson. The short squeeze to $475 was far enough back that it might have slipped down the memory hole for some of the bears.

Who knows, but i'm sure there are at least 10-15% that arn't in an ideal position.

I know camolist went long on thursday night somewhere around 242, wether he sold or not I don't know.  Most the longs accumulated probably in the region of 160-220, but if they are using btc as leverage it could get nasty if we hit 210 or even below 200.

[dsly]

The next few days will be interesting if we can hold where we are now.  To many shorts now along with longs and this leveraged fiasco isn't going to end well which ever way it goes.  

Losses will be catastrophic one way or another.

I don't think many of the longs are excessively leveraged. I am wagering that there are many more of them who are leveraged to a smaller degree. I know I am. You'd have to dump to double digits to force my margin call, and that's only if I don't post more margin by then. The long squeeze to ~$166 should have taught us all a lesson. The short squeeze to $475 was far enough back that it might have slipped down the memory hole for some of the bears.

we have to break through 240 ...again... first.....silly me how i thought the 166 'HAMMER TIME' was a buying opportunity.

Lets hope that happens this week. The drop was just a weekened drop

[tarmi]

in a modern world full of ak47, m16 and other machinery the "biological equivalence of abilities of men and women" sounds to me like women are only missed in dick swinging contests.

try to marry some of those guys and you will find out the meaning of the word violence.

What a load of crap. How many top level women chess players are there? Poker players? How many Nobel prize-winning scientists? Top engineers? They exist, but the percentages are tiny. If humanity was all women who reproduced asexually, we'd all be living in very well-decorated mud huts.

there is a reason for that> women suffered from male oppression for thousands of years.

 

[Sitarow]

Getting bored of checking the price every day ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

Wake me up in 10 years.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/stripe-now-accepts-bitcoin-payments,28601.html

[tarmi]

Women's brains are different. They have less grey matter and more connective tissue. So do psychopaths.

you sure sound like one, bitcoiner!

[karolina]

in a modern world full of ak47, m16 and other machinery the "biological equivalence of abilities of men and women" sounds to me like women are only missed in dick swinging contests.

try to marry some of those guys and you will find out the meaning of the word violence.

What a load of crap. How many top level women chess players are there? Poker players? How many Nobel prize-winning scientists? Top engineers? They exist, but the percentages are tiny. If humanity was all women who reproduced asexually, we'd all be living in very well-decorated mud huts.

there is a reason for that> women suffered from male oppression for thousands of years.

 

I was hoping you'd bring up this exact argument. There is a reason why men don't suffer from female oppression.

[tarmi]

Ok, I'm gonna step into this whirlpool and note that the likes of silverfurtune and billyjoeallen have been real intellectual boons to this thread. The trolls have went into hibernation when the bosses have taken hold of the reigns. Primarily, Mr SF ad BJA have made their points and are moving on to their next ones, soon. I just want to say thx to the bosses in due time.

Thanks, Man. Please don't feel the need to defend me against charges of racism, sexism or whatever the crimethink de jour is. Whatever my moral flaws, the reason why I advocate Bicoin is because it is money that doesn't need force or coercion in order to function.

Which would y'all rather have as a neighbor, a racist sexist homophobic who believes in the NonAggression Principle or an egalitarian who wants to make everyone equal by sticking guns in their faces?

Freedom means you have to put up with some unpleasant people with unpleasant ideas, but you don't have to put up with threats of violence by those who claim to be peaceful while having the State do their dirty work for them.

Ideally, I'd have the egalitarian non-aggression principle abiding guy for a neighbor, but your point stands.

Confirming what Ramsay said: good to read your stuff in this sea of troll bile. Don't always agree with it, but it's rarely lazy thinking (the worst crime, intellectually speaking).

another false dilemma.

you cant really be sexist/homophob/racist and a nonagression believer at the same time because being sexist/homophob/racist implies aggression.

Well then: if I present a false dilemma, you present a false conflation. In reality, most homophobes / sexists / racists *don't * follow non aggression. Far from it. But that's an empirical result, not a necessity.

I claim I personally  *do* know people that, by terminology of my peers would count as sexist, in the sense that they don't believe in biological equivalence of abilities of men and women. However, neither do they act like dicks about, or join bullshit movements like mrm. I'd argue that type of person is someone who you could reasonably call an non violent sexist. If you prefer to reserve the term for the violent kind however, fair enough as well.

in a modern world full of ak47, m16 and other machinery the "biological equivalence of abilities of men and women" sounds like the women are only not able to join dick swinging contests. nothing more.

try to marry some of those guys and you will find out the meaning of the word violence.

Yeah, see this is where bja is precisely right: by your own standards, anyone holding an opinion that makes him unpalatable to you to marry has an unacceptable opinion (societally speaking).

I prefer my society (and principles) to be slightly more permissive for variety of ideas than that.

no, people like billyjoe should be institutionalized!

[ChartBuddy]

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[billyjoeallen]

in a modern world full of ak47, m16 and other machinery the "biological equivalence of abilities of men and women" sounds to me like women are only missed in dick swinging contests.

try to marry some of those guys and you will find out the meaning of the word violence.

What a load of crap. How many top level women chess players are there? Poker players? How many Nobel prize-winning scientists? Top engineers? They exist, but the percentages are tiny. If humanity was all women who reproduced asexually, we'd all be living in very well-decorated mud huts.

there is a reason for that> women suffered from male oppression for thousands of years.

Survey after survey shows that women are less happy now than in the 1950s, and a huge number are on anti-depressants. Why do you think that is?

[tarmi]

in a modern world full of ak47, m16 and other machinery the "biological equivalence of abilities of men and women" sounds to me like women are only missed in dick swinging contests.

try to marry some of those guys and you will find out the meaning of the word violence.

What a load of crap. How many top level women chess players are there? Poker players? How many Nobel prize-winning scientists? Top engineers? They exist, but the percentages are tiny. If humanity was all women who reproduced asexually, we'd all be living in very well-decorated mud huts.

there is a reason for that> women suffered from male oppression for thousands of years.

 

I was hoping you'd bring up this exact argument. There is a reason why men don't suffer from female oppression.

because they were not able to handle expensive and heavy arms like swords?

ak47 is easy to handle and very cheap.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Some absolute crap getting discussed today on here.

Take it to off topic.

[fonzie]

in a modern world full of ak47, m16 and other machinery the "biological equivalence of abilities of men and women" sounds to me like women are only missed in dick swinging contests.

try to marry some of those guys and you will find out the meaning of the word violence.

What a load of crap. How many top level women chess players are there? Poker players? How many Nobel prize-winning scientists? Top engineers? They exist, but the percentages are tiny. If humanity was all women who reproduced asexually, we'd all be living in very well-decorated mud huts.

there is a reason for that> women suffered from male oppression for thousands of years.

Survey after survey shows that women are less happy now than in the 1950s, and a huge number are on anti-depressants. Why do you think that is?

"If we don´t suppress them, they would become unhappy"

[NotLambchop]

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Survey after survey shows that women are less happy now than in the 1950s, and a huge number are on anti-depressants. Why do you think that is?

Just curious, do the same surveys show that men are happier?  If not, my guess is "tiemz r hard "

[NotHatinJustTrollin]

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Confirming what Ramsay said: good to read your stuff in this sea of troll bile.

I guess fucking your mom technically does make me a motherfucker, but thank you for improving the level of discourse. I fixed it. Are you happy now? Oh wait, your..you'are...ah yer still waiting on sub $200 coins. No wonder y....yous...y'all are so grumpy. Gotcher coinz, Bitchez!

Your critique is so stale it only merits an ad hominem attack. The reason I never learned whatever tribal grunts is your native tongue is because I don't have to. English speakers rule the planet. And I'm drunk too soback at ya, you foreign fucking foreigner fuck.

You're critique is ...