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February 20, 2015, 08:31:48 PM
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60k Bitcoins moved - 26 Million days destroyed. Never seen so many days destroyed in one block before.

6 Blocks ago

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http://btc.blockr.io/block/info/344419


Biggest transaction in it:
26 166 coins destroyed all the days... ...... (26 531 045 Days/ 26 166 coins) = 1 014 days not moved. So almost 3 years not moved.

http://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/35591e5c7f4f1f0e4d81748042f2a4b7dcae3ae01027f361cad7c8746369bc0d

any way to find out if they hit an exchange or where they went to?

Followed the chain tree a bit back. Looks like some coins where originaly mined in 2010/2011 and have moved several times until they ended up on the Cold Store Address some when in 2012.

For example:

https://blockchain.info/de/address/1FTNSAYCYVpYZxGpdBtpFawgsuigHBL9wv
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February 20, 2015, 08:32:47 PM

Greek deal is reached (apparently - though we have had many false starts). Bitcoin is flat... interesting.


It's so funny to watch. Syriza was all like "we're getting out of the Euro, blablabla".
What did they get? An extension which would have been granted to any political party who would have won.
A change of name for the Troika, so that they can brag to the Greek citizens.
Ridiculous.

I guess they capitulated when they saw how close their Banks were to complete collapse (1Billion Euro Deposit flight today). That, or they threatened their families lol.

Though this isn't over until its over. I would not be surprised if the Greeks throw a curve ball - maybe deliver some watered down version on Monday and we are back to "he said she said".





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February 20, 2015, 08:41:30 PM

Greek deal is reached (apparently - though we have had many false starts). Bitcoin is flat... interesting.


It's so funny to watch. Syriza was all like "we're getting out of the Euro, blablabla".
What did they get? An extension which would have been granted to any political party who would have won.
A change of name for the Troika, so that they can brag to the Greek citizens.
Ridiculous.

We'll see. They only have 4 months to find a more permanent solution.

4 months is like nothing. They'll either get kicked out or Germany will leave the euro and send every other country to hell.
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February 20, 2015, 08:54:14 PM

Greek deal is reached (apparently - though we have had many false starts). Bitcoin is flat... interesting.


It's so funny to watch. Syriza was all like "we're getting out of the Euro, blablabla".
What did they get? An extension which would have been granted to any political party who would have won.
A change of name for the Troika, so that they can brag to the Greek citizens.
Ridiculous.
You can not smash the fist on the table and at the same time hold the hand open

(tell me how is it smashing a open hand on the table)
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February 20, 2015, 08:56:51 PM

This is why it is so fascinating. The most logical thing for them to do is to default HARD on that debt, start from a clean slate, and we will all be vacationing in Greece next year due to the affordable prices. The Greeks are already in the worst case senario, it can't get much worse economically - the only place where it can get worse is that the Greke population may take a haircut on their savings by converting to Drachmas. If I was in charge of Greece, and I was brave enough, I'd default.

It would be nice to see a lot of countries defaulting on the grounds that their government can't be held to the debts of previous governments. Then perhaps we'd see an end to this whole government debt thing. Children should not be shouldered with the debt of their deadbeat ancestors.

That's just not gonna happen, although I agree with you it would be nice.The 2008 crises tore back the curtain and we finally got to see how the sausages were made (to mix metaphors). Governments and particularly the USG are functionally just the enforcement arms for the banks. The are the leg-breakers employed by the loan sharks. If they side against the banks, they lose their jobs.
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February 20, 2015, 08:57:09 PM

Greek deal is reached (apparently - though we have had many false starts). Bitcoin is flat... interesting.


It's so funny to watch. Syriza was all like "we're getting out of the Euro, blablabla".
What did they get? An extension which would have been granted to any political party who would have won.
A change of name for the Troika, so that they can brag to the Greek citizens.
Ridiculous.
You can not smash the fist on the table and at the same time hold the hand open

(tell me how is it smashing a open hand on the table)

(Hahaha you made me smash my hand open in the table just to try, it can feel quite authoritarian too Grin )
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February 20, 2015, 08:59:35 PM

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February 20, 2015, 08:59:41 PM

Greek deal is reached (apparently - though we have had many false starts). Bitcoin is flat... interesting.


It's so funny to watch. Syriza was all like "we're getting out of the Euro, blablabla".
What did they get? An extension which would have been granted to any political party who would have won.
A change of name for the Troika, so that they can brag to the Greek citizens.
Ridiculous.

We'll see. They only have 4 months to find a more permanent solution.

4 months is like nothing. They'll either get kicked out or Germany will leave the euro and send every other country to hell.

Oh no, the friendly cuddly germans. How will the world ever manage. A better idea would probably be to do what we should have done in 45; pull the borders of France, Poland and Denmark together until they meet. If only...
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February 20, 2015, 09:00:59 PM

Greek deal is reached (apparently - though we have had many false starts). Bitcoin is flat... interesting.


It's so funny to watch. Syriza was all like "we're getting out of the Euro, blablabla".
What did they get? An extension which would have been granted to any political party who would have won.
A change of name for the Troika, so that they can brag to the Greek citizens.
Ridiculous.
You can not smash the fist on the table and at the same time hold the hand open

(tell me how is it smashing a open hand on the table)

(Hahaha you made me smash my hand open in the table just to try, it can feel quite authoritarian too Grin )
obviously you did not hold the hand open
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February 20, 2015, 09:04:17 PM

60k Bitcoins moved - 26 Million days destroyed. Never seen so many days destroyed in one block before.

6 Blocks ago

--->

http://btc.blockr.io/block/info/344419


Biggest transaction in it:
26 166 coins destroyed all the days... ...... (26 531 045 Days/ 26 166 coins) = 1 014 days not moved. So almost 3 years not moved.

http://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/35591e5c7f4f1f0e4d81748042f2a4b7dcae3ae01027f361cad7c8746369bc0d

any way to find out if they hit an exchange or where they went to?

Followed the chain tree a bit back. Looks like some coins where originaly mined in 2010/2011 and have moved several times until they ended up on the Cold Store Address some when in 2012.

For example:

https://blockchain.info/de/address/1FTNSAYCYVpYZxGpdBtpFawgsuigHBL9wv


USMS testing the latest batch of SR coins for auction?
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February 20, 2015, 09:06:39 PM

60k Bitcoins moved - 26 Million days destroyed. Never seen so many days destroyed in one block before.

6 Blocks ago

--->

http://btc.blockr.io/block/info/344419


Biggest transaction in it:
26 166 coins destroyed all the days... ...... (26 531 045 Days/ 26 166 coins) = 1 014 days not moved. So almost 3 years not moved.

http://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/35591e5c7f4f1f0e4d81748042f2a4b7dcae3ae01027f361cad7c8746369bc0d

any way to find out if they hit an exchange or where they went to?

Followed the chain tree a bit back. Looks like some coins where originaly mined in 2010/2011 and have moved several times until they ended up on the Cold Store Address some when in 2012.

For example:

https://blockchain.info/de/address/1FTNSAYCYVpYZxGpdBtpFawgsuigHBL9wv


USMS testing the latest batch of SR coins for auction?

have these coins not moved since 2012 ?
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February 20, 2015, 09:15:14 PM

Greek deal is reached (apparently - though we have had many false starts). Bitcoin is flat... interesting.


It's so funny to watch. Syriza was all like "we're getting out of the Euro, blablabla".
What did they get? An extension which would have been granted to any political party who would have won.
A change of name for the Troika, so that they can brag to the Greek citizens.
Ridiculous.

They need a better meme before this is over

Troika repayment redefined
Flexible repayment
Soft repayment
Dignity deal
Prosperity swap
No greek left behind
Euro Unity Reassurance deal
Responsible Prosperity
respionsible anti austerity
Hellenic eternal enlightenment revival and inclusion treaty of the 21.century

Something.
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February 20, 2015, 09:15:15 PM

Greek deal is reached (apparently - though we have had many false starts). Bitcoin is flat... interesting.


It's so funny to watch. Syriza was all like "we're getting out of the Euro, blablabla".
What did they get? An extension which would have been granted to any political party who would have won.
A change of name for the Troika, so that they can brag to the Greek citizens.
Ridiculous.
You can not smash the fist on the table and at the same time hold the hand open

(tell me how is it smashing a open hand on the table)

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February 20, 2015, 09:27:42 PM

Greek deal is reached (apparently - though we have had many false starts). Bitcoin is flat... interesting.


It's so funny to watch. Syriza was all like "we're getting out of the Euro, blablabla".
What did they get? An extension which would have been granted to any political party who would have won.
A change of name for the Troika, so that they can brag to the Greek citizens.
Ridiculous.

I guess they capitulated when they saw how close their Banks were to complete collapse (1Billion Euro Deposit flight today). That, or they threatened their families lol.

Though this isn't over until its over. I would not be surprised if the Greeks throw a curve ball - maybe deliver some watered down version on Monday and we are back to "he said she said".


"I don't mind broken Promises. I just think: Why did they believe me?" ~Jack Handy

I'm starting to suspect Jack was a Greek.
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February 20, 2015, 09:31:49 PM

Greek deal is reached (apparently - though we have had many false starts). Bitcoin is flat... interesting.


It's so funny to watch. Syriza was all like "we're getting out of the Euro, blablabla".
What did they get? An extension which would have been granted to any political party who would have won.
A change of name for the Troika, so that they can brag to the Greek citizens.
Ridiculous.

We'll see. They only have 4 months to find a more permanent solution.

4 months is like nothing. They'll either get kicked out or Germany will leave the euro and send every other country to hell.

if germany leaves the € zone this would let to the collapse of the export industry since the new currency would revalue hard. the german export industry is untouchable, strongest lobby - for them a weak € is simply the best of all scenarios. those goods get really cheap and eliminate domnestic industries in targeted countries.  germanies trade surplusses are skyrocketing, surpassing even those of China. the currency war has started, greece is used as a strategic weappon.
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February 20, 2015, 09:32:03 PM

Anyone else think it is ironic that americans love to slag off greece for growing an unpayable national debt and going broke? I mean the fed printed how much of your deficit last year? Or the year before? Or the year before that? lol..

Literally the only difference between the US/UK/Japan and greece is a magical money printing machine denominated in greek euros.

The ECB will print. What else can they do?
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February 20, 2015, 09:34:39 PM

Greek deal is reached (apparently - though we have had many false starts). Bitcoin is flat... interesting.


It's so funny to watch. Syriza was all like "we're getting out of the Euro, blablabla".
What did they get? An extension which would have been granted to any political party who would have won.
A change of name for the Troika, so that they can brag to the Greek citizens.
Ridiculous.

I guess they capitulated when they saw how close their Banks were to complete collapse (1Billion Euro Deposit flight today). That, or they threatened their families lol.

Though this isn't over until its over. I would not be surprised if the Greeks throw a curve ball - maybe deliver some watered down version on Monday and we are back to "he said she said".


"I don't mind broken Promises. I just think: Why did they believe me?" ~Jack Handy

I'm starting to suspect Jack was a Greek.

Like taking Jack Handy from a baby.
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February 20, 2015, 09:39:50 PM

Naturally, Mr. Katz brought along an extra $3.5k in cash, because...  because BITCOIN!!!

I mean, that's so unsafe!  Anon could have died of happiness and laughter Angry


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He probably got that/or had it form someone else. He sounds like a runner to me., with the exchange service as bullshit. 


Ah, you suspect he was selling powdered bitcoins in little ziplock baggies?
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February 20, 2015, 09:41:20 PM

Anyone else think it is ironic that americans love to slag off greece for growing an unpayable national debt and going broke? I mean the fed printed how much of your deficit last year? Or the year before? Or the year before that? lol..

Literally the only difference between the US/UK/Japan and greece is a magical money printing machine denominated in greek euros.

The ECB will print. What else can they do?

There's a huge difference between borrowing from your own central bank and borrowing from some other country's banks. And yes, the ECB will print.

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<putsontinfoilhat>  Maybe they are going to use the next four months  (or do I mean days?) to prepare for a soft grexit, rather than dealing with a hard grexit sooner. Or maybe they are just trying to figure out how to phrase the word "default" so it sounds more like "perpetual bond"

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