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June 03, 2015, 02:46:26 PM

will we break above 226 and run to 231?
the next 24hours are critical  Wink
why are the next 24 hours critical? We already broke 226 today.
They always are. Cool
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June 03, 2015, 02:54:06 PM

-snip-
“The era of commingling customer Bitcoin and all of the associated security exposures is over,”
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Does this mean we're now limited to mixers and gambling sites to launder money? Regulators destroying bitcoin? Angry

Bitcoin's only hope at this point is to become the completely transparent coin. Trying to use it for anything you wish to keep secret will be foolhardy. Satoshi will never get to spend his million coins as long as he wishes to remain anonymous, unfortunately.

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Bitfinex team is very excited to be the first exchange in the world to automate Bitcoin settlements using ‘On-Blockchain’ customer segregated wallets.”

Bots performing high frequency trading where every transaction occurs on-chain will force the bigger-block discussion. Nasdaq will be wanting to record their equity trading in the blockchain as well. 20 meg, 100 meg, even giga-blocks will be needed to keep up if they want to do everything on-chain. Trying to keep bitcoin decentralized in the face of wall street pressure is futile. Perhaps it was all just a foolish dream to begin with.

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June 03, 2015, 02:57:25 PM

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June 03, 2015, 03:16:21 PM

Are you listening to these punk ass ghetto muthafuckas? (no idea why I put it like that tbh)

http://livestream.com/FSRoundtable/BITSForumDC


(talking about internet of things now huh? oh yeah)
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rocket launch T-45mins

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June 03, 2015, 03:20:13 PM

t-10mins!

http://livestream.com/FSRoundtable/BITSForumDC
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June 03, 2015, 03:23:58 PM

Bulls, I hope you are prepared to deal with the strongest kicks in the nuts (coming in the next few weeks in the bitcoin markets) like this guy is  Grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a86cQobU-n4

 Grin Grin Grin Grin
PS: Sorry, that was just an excuse to post that video here  : P
What the hell. That's nuts.

I see what you did there.
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June 03, 2015, 03:24:23 PM

t-10mins!
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June 03, 2015, 03:25:30 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaV1-YC11yk
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June 03, 2015, 03:25:49 PM

Although initially it appears that markets are truly moving sideways; when you track the correlating changes between ltc/btc, you see a slightly different picture. Before the significant drop in BTC recently, LTC made some moves. More recently, ltc has been climbing from .0072 to .0075. I think you could easily see a significant drop again in ltc followed by a significant move in btc. Whether that move is up or down is unclear. However, it's June and the bitlicense is coming soon. I would guess a sharp downward trend when it is announced followed by steady sharp rise. this is however, all speculation afterall...

we've seen a lot of news about the bitlicense, for quite some time, its negative effect on price has probably mostly all been priced in, if bitlicense makes you doubt the future of bitcoin ( or the future of the price of bitcoin ) chances are you sold on this news long ago.

I would disagree that the bitlicense has been priced in. Various trading exchanges have indicated that they may or may not exclude NY as a potential market. Although the most recent draft seemed to allow for the possibility of slowly on-ramping into compliance, it is unclear as to which exchanges will choose to comply. I know there have been issues with changes in wire transfer regulations. I thought I remember reading that some of the asian market exchanges were looking into ensuring compliance with the market. It could however act as a significant temporary price destabilizer if NY was temporarily blacklisted.

What would be even more interesting however is what would happen to the exchanges allowed to continue to operate in the jurisdiction; i.e. coinbase, etc. Clearly once you have coins, they are your coins, and you can transfer them where you will; it's kindof all for naught but it could result in some significant arbitrage opportunities. I also think that the bitlicense will act as the informal go ahead for the launching of an exchange run by a pair of twins. I think ultimately it paves the way to 'legitimacy' and whatever that is but could operate also be used as a last ditch effort to push the price down again. Or i'm horribly wrong and this week we already saw the last leg of the bear market and it's only up from here.  I'm hoping for some bad greek news and some surging btc spikes and volatility Cheesy
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June 03, 2015, 03:31:26 PM

Inb4 Lawsky Pump/Dump
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June 03, 2015, 03:31:35 PM

its starting http://livestream.com/FSRoundtable/BITSForumDC
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June 03, 2015, 03:34:31 PM

BUY ALL THE DOGECOINS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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June 03, 2015, 03:35:47 PM

Fucking regulators. We don't need that imo.
It's like the wild west out here. I like it. Smiley
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June 03, 2015, 03:40:30 PM

http://www.coindesk.com/new-york-releases-final-bitlicense/
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June 03, 2015, 03:44:27 PM

http://www.dfs.ny.gov/about/speeches/sp1506031.htm

http://www.dfs.ny.gov/legal/regulations/adoptions/dfsp200t.pdf

(This is crazy, they posted his speech already, but it's also going on live right now... mind blown)


"I’d like to turn now to the BitLicense.

Today, we are issuing the final BitLicense framework for regulating virtual currency firms.

This framework is the product of a nearly two-year-long regulatory inquiry that the New York State Department of Financial Services (NYDFS) began in 2013. In fact, this is the third and final version of the regulation we have put forward.

Over the course of our inquiry, we have received an immense amount of public feedback, which we believe significantly improved the final product.

Indeed, the second version of the regulation we put forward incorporated a number of substantial changes from our initial draft in response to those comments. In particular, we sought to help provide an on-ramp for start-ups – while still ensuring robust standards for consumer protection, cyber security, and anti-money-laundering compliance.

The third and final version does not include the type of major changes we saw in the last round. However, we did want to make several points clear today in order to allay various concerns we have heard during the public comment period.

To that end, we wanted to make crystal clear that:

First, companies will not need prior approval for standard software or app updates – only for material changes to their products or business models. (A good example of a material change would be if a firm that was licensed as a wallet service decided to begin offering exchange services. We have no interest in micro-managing minor app updates. We’re not Apple.)
Second, we have no intention of being a regulator of software developers – only financial intermediaries. For example, students or other innovators who are simply developing software and are not holding onto customer funds are not required to apply for a BitLicense. There is an important reason for making this distinction when a company becomes a financial intermediary: There is a basic bargain that when a financial company is entrusted with safeguarding customer funds and receives a license from the state to do so – it accepts the need for heightened regulatory scrutiny to help ensure that a consumer’s money does not just disappear into a black hole.
Third, we are not going to require a duplicative set of application submissions for firms that want both a BitLicense and a money transmitter license. Firms will be able to cross-satisfy many of those license requirements. Companies will be able to work with us to have a “one-stop” application submission that covers all the bases they need.
Fourth, companies that already file suspicious activity reports (also called “SARs”) with federal regulators such as FinCEN do not have to file a duplicate set of those same SARs with our agency. Our goal is to avoid duplication where possible. And we generally already have access to that information when we need it through information sharing arrangements with federal regulators.
Fifth, companies also would not need prior approval from NYDFS for every new round of venture capital funding. Generally, a company would only need prior approval if the investor wants to direct the management and policies of the firm (which is known as a “control person” in regulatory jargon). In other words, that provision is not targeted at truly “passive investors.”  The notion of approving a “control person” is pretty standard in the regulation of financial companies and is generally intended to help stop known fraudsters from having direct access to customer funds. Large new investors (i.e. those with a 10 percent or more stake) would simply need to document and demonstrate that they are not going to have such a role. Additionally, under the regulation, simply because someone sits on a company’s board does not necessarily mean they are considered a control person.
We understand, of course, that we are not going to satisfy everyone with these new regulations.

Some have even suggested removing all anti-money laundering requirements for certain financial companies involved in digital currency, which we do not believe is warranted.

Again, we recognize that we are not going to please everyone. That is the nature of regulatory oversight.

For example, when we write new regulations for Wall Street, if the banks are completely happy with something we've drafted, it probably means we haven't done our jobs right.

Our goal, as always, is to be sensible and fair. "

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BITLISENZZE BITCHEZZZ!!!!
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