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[finkelsteinMonster]

Where're eth pump trolls today?

Pumping bitcoin. Variety: the spice of life

P.S. Oh look! Bitcoin made it to the front page again

http://s33.postimg.org/4jk1rhku7/Capture.jpg

[Big Dick]

Yup, all publicity = good publicity. $450 immanent. Buy buy buy!

[Mervyn_Pumpkinhead]

2013 just called me and told that bitcoin is a new and exciting investment

[finkelsteinMonster]

2013 just called me and told that bitcoin is a new and exciting investment

Retro tech is gonna be huge bro. Steampunks! Coal-fired adding machines and bitcoin, buy now or cry later.

[Asrael999]

2013 just called me and told that bitcoin is a new and exciting investment

oh you early adopter you

[Big Dick]

Swedish Court Rules Against KnCMiner Mining Hardware Customers
"The court further ordered the plaintiffs to pay KnC’s legal costs, amounting to 772,000 krona, or approximately $93,000."
Serves them right! harassing possibly the only honest bitcoin business. Parasites!

[Paashaas]

The more i read about Rootstock smart-contracts, the more i realize that ETH days are numbered. Those guys at Rootstock labs will making a next generation improved version of smart-contracts that be realesed around the end of this year and will smash ETH into the ground.

Remember this; everything that will be build on top of Bitcoins Blockchain will crush all competitors.

https://bitconnect.co/bitcoin-news/172/bitcoin-getting-smarter-smart-contracts-than-ethereum/

http://www.rootstock.io/

[ahpku]

Hahahaha, if true, hilarious! http://pastebin.com/8a2EdtSV <==supposed to be an email leak
TL;DR: Bruce Fenton trying to become relevant by offering Core fancy-sounding BitcoinFoundation titles if they just play with him

NOTICE ME SENPAI!!

Lol, confirmed

"[–]bruce_fenton [score hidden] 37 minutes ago

This email was a private/ non public email meant for about a dozen of the leading core Devs."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4kt7uv/leak_bruce_fenton_attempts_to_revive_failed_and/

[finkelsteinMonster]

Where're eth pump trolls today?

Pumping bitcoin. Variety: the spice of life

Guys, how's about some help? y'all forgotten how to pump?

[USB-S]

Where're eth pump trolls today?

Pumping bitcoin. Variety: the spice of life

Guys, how's about some help? y'all forgotten how to pump?

MOON

[joe 90]

The more i read about Rootstock smart-contracts, the more i realize that ETH days are numbered. Those guys at Rootstock labs will making a next generation improved version of smart-contracts that be realesed around the end of this year and will smash ETH into the ground.

Remember this; everything that will be build on top of Bitcoins Blockchain will crush all competitors.

https://bitconnect.co/bitcoin-news/172/bitcoin-getting-smarter-smart-contracts-than-ethereum/

http://www.rootstock.io/

What if before rootstock is released someone else releases something with smarter smart contracts than rootstock's smarter smart contracts than ethereum's smart contracts?

[bobabouey2]

Hahahaha, if true, hilarious! http://pastebin.com/8a2EdtSV <==supposed to be an email leak
TL;DR: Bruce Fenton trying to become relevant by offering Core fancy-sounding BitcoinFoundation titles if they just play with him

NOTICE ME SENPAI!!

Lol, confirmed

"[–]bruce_fenton [score hidden] 37 minutes ago

This email was a private/ non public email meant for about a dozen of the leading core Devs."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4kt7uv/leak_bruce_fenton_attempts_to_revive_failed_and/

Between this "leak" of an unsolicited group email and the "crashing" of his club med roundtable, Queen Bruce proves he has a very naive view of what is and isn't private.

[Big Dick]

The more i read about Rootstock smart-contracts, the more i realize that ETH days are numbered. Those guys at Rootstock labs will making a next generation improved version of smart-contracts that be realesed around the end of this year and will smash ETH into the ground.

Remember this; everything that will be build on top of Bitcoins Blockchain will crush all competitors.

https://bitconnect.co/bitcoin-news/172/bitcoin-getting-smarter-smart-contracts-than-ethereum/

http://www.rootstock.io/

What if before rootstock is released someone else releases something with smarter smart contracts than rootstock's smarter smart contracts than ethereum's smart contracts?

Rootstock smart contracts aren't even smart, just some Turing-incomplete software stack kludges that don't even try to shift paradigms. How's that disruptive?
Bitcoin must integrate intelligence right into the blockchain, protocol-level smartness is what's needed to contractualize the future of money!

[Fatman3001]

The more i read about Rootstock smart-contracts, the more i realize that ETH days are numbered. Those guys at Rootstock labs will making a next generation improved version of smart-contracts that be realesed around the end of this year and will smash ETH into the ground.

Remember this; everything that will be build on top of Bitcoins Blockchain will crush all competitors.

https://bitconnect.co/bitcoin-news/172/bitcoin-getting-smarter-smart-contracts-than-ethereum/

http://www.rootstock.io/

Burning hundreds of coal fired state subsidized MW's for next to useless calculations might be ok for parts of the financial sector, but for many others this might be seen as a PR problem.

[becoin]

Bitcoin must integrate intelligence right into the blockchain, protocol-level smartness is what's needed to contractualize the future of money!

Wut?
Money must be money without any contract. If there must be some contract behind money then this isn't money but debt!

[Big Dick]

then this isn't money but debt!

Money IS debt. If not contract/debt, what is it

[becoin]

then this isn't money but debt!

Money IS debt. If not contract/debt, what is it

This is one of the biggest fallacies about money even in the academic world. If debt is money then the more debt you have in a community the more wealthy is that community as a whole. But NO! It is not strange at all that most indebted nations think they are the richest ones.

If I have a piece of gold in my hand nobody owes me anything. If I have 1 bitcoin in my wallet nobody owes me anything.

This is why ethers is fuel while bitcoins is money!

[Big Dick]

^
Wow, didn't mean to trigger you bro, I'm sorry. I'll answer your questions tho. ELY5

If debt is money then the more debt you have in a community the more wealthy is that community as a whole.

That's silly. If I owe you 100 bit-coins and you owe me 100 bit-coins, our community of 2 has plenty of debt, but nothing could be said about its wealth.

most indebted nations think they are the richest ones.

They don't think they're the richest nations because they have the most debt. They think they're the richest nations because they have stuff, power and clout. That's what makes them rich.
Look at it from a different perspective: it's almost impossible for a poor person to accrue substantial debt, only a fool would lend money to someone who can't pay. That's why bums don't live in mansions and drive Ferraris -- no one offers them that kind (or any kind) of credit.

Does this clear things up at all?

[becoin]

Look at it from a different perspective: it's almost impossible for a poor person to accrue substantial debt, only a fool would lend money to someone who can't pay. That's why bums don't live in mansions and drive Ferraris -- no one offers them that kind (or any kind of) credit.

Does this clear things up at all?

Do yourself a favor and read about 2008 sub-prime implosion caused exactly by bums living in mansions and driving Ferraris. Educate yourself.

[Big Dick]

^
Not all debt is good debt, is that what you're trying to tell me? How is this any different than all the bit-coin deadbeats captains of industry scurrying off with investors' bit-coins?

You still haven't answered my question tho:

Money IS debt. If not contract/debt, what is it