JayJuanGee
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to "non-custodial"
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August 03, 2016, 07:04:55 PM |
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Money went in to that address, but there is no sign that it was moved? Are we going to see different results regarding whether coins were moved or not once the Bitfinex site goes live, again? They will probably communicate some kind of claims process before they actively begin trading and processing new deposits/withdrawals. And, it will be interesting to see the extent to which they put limits - the more limits, the less confidence that folks will have... so sometimes placing limits will work against them (except maybe for the first few days of going live, may be reasonable).
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Elwar
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Viva Ut Vivas
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August 03, 2016, 07:08:05 PM |
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Money went in to that address, but there is no sight that it was moved? Are we going to see different results regarding whether coins were moved or not once the Bitfinex site goes live, again? They will probably communicate some kind of claims process before they actively begin trading and processing new deposits/withdrawals. That's one of the hacker's addresses I assume. It's not all in one final address.
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aminorex
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Sine secretum non libertas
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August 03, 2016, 07:20:13 PM |
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Monkey thinks BTC turns down again in about an hour. He does not think the dumps are over, by any means. But he does tend to lag on that issue, historically. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XpZ8mKlS-c
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jertsy
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August 03, 2016, 07:35:58 PM Last edit: August 03, 2016, 07:49:09 PM by jertsy |
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I want to write a bitmovements update later, but i would like have some info before i do.
I want to find 3 timestamps
1) the time at which the p2sha address was moved. 2) the time at which bitfinex went offline 3) the time at which the market broke below 600 and started its nose dive.
I'll go look this up later, but if someone could help me out that would be cool.
Bitcoinwisdom shows the last trades as between 18:00 UTC and 18:30 UTC, based on its 30 minute time interval chart. However, the Bitfinex status page has a timestamp of 18:06 UTC on the notice of the hack. Based on those bits of information Bitfinex must have gone offline between 18:00 UTC and 18:06 UTC. 
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jertsy
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August 03, 2016, 07:48:31 PM |
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I want to write a bitmovements update later, but i would like have some info before i do.
I want to find 3 timestamps
1) the time at which the p2sha address was moved. 2) the time at which bitfinex went offline 3) the time at which the market broke below 600 and started its nose dive.
I'll go look this up later, but if someone could help me out that would be cool.
According to the Bitcoinwisdom Bitstamp 30 minute time interval chart the price decisively crashed below $600 between 19:00 UTC and 19:30 UTC. There was probably a gap of about an hour between Bitfinex going offline and the crash below $600, although the price had been wavering between $595 and $605 for an hour or two beforehand. 
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lemmyK
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August 03, 2016, 08:24:17 PM |
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Huobi 560 Bitstamp 565 Btc-e 563 Bitfinex 604(  ) Every time when bitcoin on huobi FLY UP(800) other not catch cope with the huobi..never or take it long time but when BTC falls so it's opposite... Interesting manipulation. 
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adamstgBit
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August 03, 2016, 08:31:29 PM |
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thanks jertsy.
now i just need the time of the p2sha address got moved
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I just checked and for me i see 14:00 bitfinex goes offline ( i zoomed into the 5Min candles ) 14:00 stamps crashes below 600
I guess i'm not set to UTC time, but still from my view i see that stamps started its nose dive mins if not secs after bitfinex going offline
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jbreher
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lose: unfind ... loose: untight
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August 03, 2016, 08:31:36 PM |
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Is there a bitfinex replacement out there that offers leveraged trading to North American customers?
When _will_ you people learn?
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cmacwiz
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August 03, 2016, 08:35:54 PM |
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Is there a bitfinex replacement out there that offers leveraged trading to North American customers?
When _will_ you people learn? I just gotta make back all the BTC I lost in bitfinex real quick, then I will stop, promise
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jbreher
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lose: unfind ... loose: untight
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August 03, 2016, 09:02:12 PM |
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Is there a bitfinex replacement out there that offers leveraged trading to North American customers?
When _will_ you people learn? I just gotta make back all the BTC I lost in bitfinex real quick, then I will stop, promise Textbook gambling addiction response. 
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cmacwiz
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August 03, 2016, 09:07:01 PM |
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Is there a bitfinex replacement out there that offers leveraged trading to North American customers?
When _will_ you people learn? I just gotta make back all the BTC I lost in bitfinex real quick, then I will stop, promise Textbook gambling addiction response.  I bet you can't find that response in a textbook
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Pbitcoin
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August 03, 2016, 09:09:03 PM |
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If it can happen to Bitfinex it can happen to Coinbase too. That will make bitcoin worthless if that day ever happens. And nothing is impossible in this day and age of technoterrorism.
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cmacwiz
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August 03, 2016, 09:13:14 PM |
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If it can happen to Bitfinex it can happen to Coinbase too. That will make bitcoin worthless if that day ever happens. And nothing is impossible in this day and age of technoterrorism. So if I leave my coins in my coinbase vault, and coinbase gets hacked, I get the privilege to commiserate with everyone else who got Goxxed? I wanna be a bitcoin pioneer!
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jertsy
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August 03, 2016, 09:16:26 PM |
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thanks jertsy.
now i just need the time of the p2sha address got moved
edit
I just checked and for me i see 14:00 bitfinex goes offline ( i zoomed into the 5Min candles ) 14:00 stamps crashes below 600
I guess i'm not set to UTC time, but still from my view i see that stamps started its nose dive mins if not secs after bitfinex going offline
I think you're right, I checked again on bitcoincharts where you can view the raw data from Bitstamp trades. It shows the nose dive starting straight after Bitfinex going offline. Sorry about my earlier guesses from 30 minute time interval charts. I should have viewed the raw data, but I couldn't until I found the "Load raw data" link at the bottom of this page. http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg2zig5-minztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv
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aztecminer
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August 03, 2016, 09:23:27 PM |
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amazing how bitcoin took that bitfinex 60M dollar 120k coin hack like it was nada .. stroll through the park for bitcoin... didn't even phase it.. we are at a whole new era of bitcoin! it doesn't matter what happens, bitcoin is power!.. bring on the hackers, we are the badasses . everyone pile in.. moonshot! .. the train is going to leave the station.. we are all going to be buying boats soon! we are #1... if u aint in bitcoin, u are gimped. 
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calme
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August 03, 2016, 09:30:42 PM |
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Losing money or not, we are DEFINITELY fucking badasses.
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mymenace
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August 03, 2016, 09:34:58 PM |
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amazing how bitcoin took that bitfinex 60M dollar 120k coin hack like it was nada .. stroll through the park for bitcoin... didn't even phase it.. we are at a whole new era of bitcoin! it doesn't matter what happens, bitcoin is power!.. bring on the hackers, we are the badasses . everyone pile in.. moonshot! .. the train is going to leave the station.. we are all going to be buying boats soon! we are #1... if u aint in bitcoin, u are gimped.  ...."amazing how bitcoin took that bitfinex 60M dollar 120k coin hack like it was nada .. stroll through the park for bitcoin... didn't even phase it.. we are at a whole new era of bitcoin!".... luvin it
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adamstgBit
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August 03, 2016, 09:39:51 PM |
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thanks jertsy.
now i just need the time of the p2sha address got moved
edit
I just checked and for me i see 14:00 bitfinex goes offline ( i zoomed into the 5Min candles ) 14:00 stamps crashes below 600
I guess i'm not set to UTC time, but still from my view i see that stamps started its nose dive mins if not secs after bitfinex going offline
I think you're right, I checked again on bitcoincharts where you can view the raw data from Bitstamp trades, and it shows the nose dive starting straight after Bitfinex going offline. Sorry about my earlier guesses from 30 minute time interval charts. I should have viewed the raw data. http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg2zig5-minztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv confirmed! also ... https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4vuliy/bitfinex_users_fund_moving_on_20160802_8am11am/ 8am UTC time the funds moved
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jertsy
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August 03, 2016, 09:52:30 PM |
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Elwar posted a link to an address (probably belonging to the hacker) that received Bitcoins from his Bitfinex address. I traced the coins back to this address which is probably Elwar's. It shows the only movement of coins out of it was on 2016-08-02 at 09:45:42. If blockchain.info is using UTC there must have been hours between the hacker moving the coins and Bitfinex shutting the site down. Why the giant delay, did it take them hours to realise they'd been hacked? https://blockchain.info/address/3HQm8EnB1txS3nNhNdvTNY3AQj6aDPi7Vs
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