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February 16, 2017, 04:27:26 PM

Grin Grin Grin it will be funny to see how its dumping later  Shocked Shocked Shocked

I'm not so sure it will dump later. Nobody cares about the PBOC anymore, and nobody with coins on Chinese exchanges can dump them anymore.
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February 16, 2017, 04:33:02 PM

Good morning bitcoinland.

I see we've held onto last night's modest gains and even added to them... currently $1026USD (Bitcoinaverage).

Is it safe to call this a leg up?

Nice to see some movement. Let's hope this is a proper leg up. It's about time.

It's about time you get a leg up with a weekly RSI over 70???

You guys don't know what you are talking about.


Also the bullishness here speaks for down movement.

Weekly RSI is supposed to trend above 70

'16 May - Jun -------- weekly RSI > 70 ---- $430 ----> $780

'16 Nov - '17 Jan ---- weekly RSI > 70 ---- $720 ----> $1160

today ----------------- weekly RSI > 70 ---- $1000 --> ...


Using past examples where the RSI went higher than 70 has absolutely no significance. RSI over 70 is overbought period.

Don't have time to get into stupid arguments that waste my time. Leaving again for better and more intelligent places.

Yes play the petulant ignorant kid card. Cheesy
He showed you that a RSI of 70+ doesn't mean the run has to be over.
Why so emotional? Sitting at home gnawing nails because you bet on the wrong horse or what?!

But, but, but... technical analysis... sputter, sputter.

LOL  Smiley Wink Cheesy Grin Cool
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February 16, 2017, 04:33:43 PM

The attempts at FUD get more and more pathetic. Most likely a small group of people behind it with multiple accounts. Anyway, they are wrong.
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February 16, 2017, 04:39:02 PM

Grin Grin Grin it will be funny to see how its dumping later  Shocked Shocked Shocked

Mmmhh I don't know man!
We recovered extremely fast the last time.
I'm sure there will be attempts to surpress the price again, but I doubt the effect it's initiators expect it to have will really kick in.
People already give a f*** what China is announcing.
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February 16, 2017, 04:45:15 PM

Grin Grin Grin it will be funny to see how its dumping later  Shocked Shocked Shocked

Mmmhh I don't know man!
We recovered extremely fast the last time.
I'm sure there will be attempts to surpress the price again, but I doubt the effect it's initiators expect it to have will really kick in.
People already give a f*** what China is announcing.

BTC#honeybadger don't give a f*ck about chinah :-D lulzZz ~ foo!
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February 16, 2017, 04:47:50 PM

seem to be doing pretty well here.

getting ready for china to ban bitcoin on ~saturdayish
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February 16, 2017, 04:49:59 PM

seem to be doing pretty well here.

getting ready for china to ban bitcoin on ~saturdayish

#Vice channel bitcoin reality show would be epic and we go $10,000+ overnite!!!
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February 16, 2017, 04:54:03 PM

Grin Grin Grin it will be funny to see how its dumping later  Shocked Shocked Shocked

I'm not so sure it will dump later. Nobody cares about the PBOC anymore, and nobody with coins on Chinese exchanges can dump them anymore.

yes but its still lot of coins on hold lol
like this wallet -waiting for its time - and its many like those on blockchain (((

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February 16, 2017, 04:55:32 PM

Grin Grin Grin it will be funny to see how its dumping later  Shocked Shocked Shocked

Mmmhh I don't know man!
We recovered extremely fast the last time.
I'm sure there will be attempts to surpress the price again, but I doubt the effect it's initiators expect it to have will really kick in.
People already give a f*** what China is announcing.

im waiting  for march  Cool
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February 16, 2017, 05:06:29 PM

seem to be doing pretty well here.

getting ready for china to ban bitcoin on ~saturdayish

Really, is this serious? I can't find an article saying it will ban bitcoin this Saturday. It's annoying that their government really wants to control everything. Very rich country but too many poor people.
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February 16, 2017, 05:23:44 PM

seem to be doing pretty well here.

getting ready for china to ban bitcoin on ~saturdayish

Really, is this serious? I can't find an article saying it will ban bitcoin this Saturday. It's annoying that their government really wants to control everything. Very rich country but too many poor people.

i was joking. they just always like to fuck with us when we're having a nice rally.
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February 16, 2017, 05:24:22 PM

Grin Grin Grin it will be funny to see how its dumping later  Shocked Shocked Shocked

I'm not so sure it will dump later. Nobody cares about the PBOC anymore, and nobody with coins on Chinese exchanges can dump them anymore.


Yeah, we will all be laughing our asses off at those dumps in the $3k to $5k territory.   I feel like laughing right now, just to get the laughing party started... .. and it is o.k. even to get some dumps right now.. feels pretty good being more than 160% in the green... probably 10x more in the green than my normal run of the mill expectations..... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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February 16, 2017, 05:48:49 PM

big wave 3 down...coming soon to a theater near you.

1040 top in, hit the 78% fib on the head. China ban incoming lol
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February 16, 2017, 05:49:07 PM

nobody with coins on Chinese exchanges can dump them anymore.

Um, I thought it was only Bitcoin withdrawals that were suspended.

People can still sell their bitcoins and withdraw yuan.
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This is why the price gap is so great between Chinese and western exchanges.

Before the crackdown many Chinese were willing to pay a premium at home for coins to sell at a discount at western exchanges, so the price was always higher in China. This is precisely one of the major reasons for the crackdown, to stop the outflow of capital. It also explains why prices at the Chinese exchanges were typically $30 higher than in the west.

Now if they want to get their funds out of the exchanges, they're forced to sell at a discount at home and withdraw yuan, over which the government has tight control. Hence the pendulum has swung and prices are typically $30 lower in China.
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February 16, 2017, 06:06:31 PM

Twenty dollar rise.

OMG so bored!

1050+ or bust. All about those psychological barriers.
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February 16, 2017, 06:10:57 PM

nobody with coins on Chinese exchanges can dump them anymore.

Um, I thought it was only Bitcoin withdrawals that were suspended.

People can still sell their bitcoins and withdraw yuan.
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This is why the price gap is so great between Chinese and western exchanges.

Before the crackdown many Chinese were willing to pay a premium at home for coins to sell at a discount at western exchanges, so the price was always higher in China. This is precisely one of the major reasons for the crackdown, to stop the outflow of capital. It also explains why prices at the Chinese exchanges were typically $30 higher than in the west.

Now if they want to get their funds out of the exchanges, they're forced to sell at a discount at home and withdraw yuan, over which the government has tight control. Hence the pendulum has swung and prices are typically $30 lower in China.

Sorry, I mean't nobody with coins on Chinese exchanges can dump them on Western exchanges anymore. Those coins on Chinese exchanges are locked out of the worldwide market. They are similar to the coins on Gox before it closed. People are only prepared to buy them at bigger and bigger discounts because they are trapped on an exchange.
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February 16, 2017, 06:20:54 PM

Sorry, I mean't nobody with coins on Chinese exchanges can dump them on Western exchanges anymore. Those coins on Chinese exchanges are locked out of the worldwide market. They are similar to the coins on Gox before it closed. People are only prepared to buy them at bigger and bigger discounts because they are trapped on an exchange.

Gotcha. This is something my Bitcoin buddies IRL and I have discussed since the withdrawal freeze.

If all those coins are trapped in China and demand continues to grow in the rest of the world, what will that do to prices?

To me, considerations like this are more meaningful than mere "technical" analysis.
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February 16, 2017, 06:36:06 PM

Sorry, I mean't nobody with coins on Chinese exchanges can dump them on Western exchanges anymore. Those coins on Chinese exchanges are locked out of the worldwide market. They are similar to the coins on Gox before it closed. People are only prepared to buy them at bigger and bigger discounts because they are trapped on an exchange.

Gotcha. This is something my Bitcoin buddies IRL have discussed since the withdrawal freeze.

If all those coins are trapped in China and demand continues to grow in the rest of the world, what will that do to prices?

To me, considerations like this are more meaningful than mere "technical" analysis.

I've been thinking about the same thing. Not sure if it's right, but this is what I came to.  I think we've got two key drivers:
1. The percent chance the market believes funds will be made wholly available no later than March 15th. (depressive force)
2. The opportunity cost of not having access to one's coins for this span of time. (depressive force)

This first point is one that isn't a factor...until it is.  As long as there is faith/trust that things will open on time, this factor will be close to zero. If/once is becomes non-zero, it could grow quickly.
We watched this play out on Gox.  While elsewhere coins had a market value of $413, IIRC...we watched the price gap between GoxBux and other coins spread...$20, $30..$50 spread.  As fear gripped the market in the final hours, price plummeted to just above $100 - over a 75% discount of 'real' coins.

To the second, this won't affect the long term HODLers. But those looking for the short term profits, I suspect, will become increasingly pressured to sell 'while the price is still good'. Those most afraid this 1000+ price point is temporary will feel increasing pressure to sell out of fear.

In the end, it always comes down to fear and greed.

If internationally, we saw prices diverging, and going up...then I think greed would take over, and risk-tolerant investors would inject cash into the chinese exchanges in order to buy 'cheap coins', knowing they will be inaccessible for up to a month, and knowing they run a risk of not getting what they put in.  The extent we see this will be visible by buying volume on exchanges, and would counteract both of the above, depressive forces.



...however, with the ETF decision looming, I don't think we'll see such price divergence, but rather sideways action until the decision.
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February 16, 2017, 06:36:20 PM

this week has been terrible, all the sideways movements makes bitcoin price a headache.

That's a new one. I thought it was all the ups and down that made price a headache  Tongue
I find it's the ups, downs and sideways

Something like this I think


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February 16, 2017, 06:43:44 PM

Sorry, I mean't nobody with coins on Chinese exchanges can dump them on Western exchanges anymore. Those coins on Chinese exchanges are locked out of the worldwide market. They are similar to the coins on Gox before it closed. People are only prepared to buy them at bigger and bigger discounts because they are trapped on an exchange.

Gotcha. This is something my Bitcoin buddies IRL and I have discussed since the withdrawal freeze.

If all those coins are trapped in China and demand continues to grow in the rest of the world, what will that do to prices?

To me, considerations like this are more meaningful than mere "technical" analysis.

^maybe orientals going back to mining litecoin! :-D lol ..r.i.p. ltc
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