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Question: Oct. 5 Closing Price:
$0 - 5 (3.5%)
<$8,000 - 38 (27%)
$8,000-$8,500 - 16 (11.3%)
$8,500-$9,000 - 10 (7.1%)
$9,000-$9,500 - 13 (9.2%)
$9,500-$10,000 - 12 (8.5%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 10 (7.1%)
$10,500-$11,000 - 5 (3.5%)
$11,000-$11,500 - 2 (1.4%)
$11,500-$12,000 - 4 (2.8%)
>$12,000 - 17 (12.1%)
>$20,000 - 9 (6.4%)
Total Voters: 141

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February 21, 2017, 05:18:02 PM

What are the chances of another "China bans bitcoin for the 97th time" story sometime between now and $1242.... Roll Eyes

High, very high imho. That is press catnip when China does that. Easy gloom doom btc story to write
Then when btc pumps again they write the opposite piece to the moon. Rinse/Wash/Repeat.

Lots of eyeballs for both stories. Very little research needed but the over the top headline hook



^china ban = the chinese leets want to keep the coins for themselves!! :-D ha
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February 21, 2017, 05:21:07 PM

I think everyone agrees that it is more likely that the ETF will be denied, so it is priced and nothing would in practice.

I'd guess plenty of people have taken a bet on a yes. I expect a fair few of them to do a runner in the case of a no. It's the most exciting bit of action on the horizon so if it's not happening then there might be a short term sag. Everyone loves potential hype.
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February 21, 2017, 05:28:50 PM

I think everyone agrees that it is more likely that the ETF will be denied, so it is priced and nothing would in practice.

I'd guess plenty of people have taken a bet on a yes. I expect a fair few of them to do a runner in the case of a no. It's the most exciting bit of action on the horizon so if it's not happening then there might be a short term sag. Everyone loves potential hype.

Some traders are speculating there will be a bit of a dump before they announce the ETF decision. They think a significant number of the traders anticipating a no will take profits early. In the long term I don't think it matters, Bitcoin's price will soon recover from the latest bad news.
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February 21, 2017, 05:40:50 PM

But China isn't present to dump. It's hard to imagine what else they can roll out at this stage. Everywhere else is slowly disconnecting from China. Maybe a few Chinese folks have migrated to Japan for that zero fee fun so they'll have a go there, but not many people elsewhere seem to be paying Japan much attention right now.

Their arsenal is certainly depleted. Unless they go nuclear and raid miners/seize equipment, I don't think they can really affect the trend now.
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February 21, 2017, 05:51:57 PM

We're climbing up again. Is $1200 a shoo-in by the end of the week?

Wow, today I learned it is not shoe-in ...

And yes $1200 guaranteed by end of the week! Grin
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February 21, 2017, 05:53:15 PM

Is there any reason at all for SEC to wait before they reject the ETF though? Even on 10th of march, it should be obvious that it's getting approved no?
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February 21, 2017, 05:53:58 PM

Why, oh why, must the shorts continually get burned?  Cry
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February 21, 2017, 06:01:41 PM

ATH Today?
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February 21, 2017, 06:03:55 PM

Is there any reason at all for SEC to wait before they reject the ETF though? Even on 10th of march, it should be obvious that it's getting approved no?

Is there any reason for the SEC to come out with a decision before they have to? Its quite obv imo that they take as much time as they can to come to a conclusion.

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February 21, 2017, 06:05:43 PM

I think everyone agrees that it is more likely that the ETF will be denied, so it is priced and nothing would in practice.

I'd guess plenty of people have taken a bet on a yes. I expect a fair few of them to do a runner in the case of a no. It's the most exciting bit of action on the horizon so if it's not happening then there might be a short term sag. Everyone loves potential hype.

Some traders are speculating there will be a bit of a dump before they announce the ETF decision. They think a significant number of the traders anticipating a no will take profits early. In the long term I don't think it matters, Bitcoin's price will soon recover from the latest bad news.

no ETF would piss on our parade quite bad tbh. but somehow my mind imagines it happening and the price barely even falling as far as $1k.
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February 21, 2017, 06:09:15 PM

Is there any reason at all for SEC to wait before they reject the ETF though? Even on 10th of march, it should be obvious that it's getting approved no?

Is there any reason for the SEC to come out with a decision before they have to? Its quite obv imo that they take as much time as they can to come to a conclusion.



They've had 3 years, not sure why they would need an additional 10 days or whatever lol
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February 21, 2017, 06:14:09 PM

Why, oh why, must the shorts continually get burned?  Cry

Why, oh why, must I continually say it again and again?
There are 7 billion people and there will be only 21 million bitcoins!
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February 21, 2017, 06:15:27 PM

I know the odds are against it but I can't help thinking maybe it might just pass.  I mean, bitcoin is going to happen anyway and the SEC, the governments can't really control that and they must know it.  But an ETF would give them the ability to control the big money that goes in and out of bitcoin even if they can't control bitcoin itself.  An ETF would open up a huge regulatable gateway to bitcoin, of which the government can play gatekeepers to their heart's content!  If the SEC sees it that way, I think it's in  Tongue
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February 21, 2017, 06:15:47 PM

Is there any reason at all for SEC to wait before they reject the ETF though? Even on 10th of march, it should be obvious that it's getting approved no?

Is there any reason for the SEC to come out with a decision before they have to? Its quite obv imo that they take as much time as they can to come to a conclusion.



They've had 3 years, not sure why they would need an additional 10 days or whatever lol

Last addition to the ETF proposal regarding the management of hard-forks happened just a few weeks ago. The recent ETF has not much in common with the proposal the Winklevii made 3 years ago.
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February 21, 2017, 06:16:33 PM

Is there any reason for the SEC to come out with a decision before they have to? Its quite obv imo that they take as much time as they can to come to a conclusion.

What a bunch of teases. I've read elsewhere that no ETF has ever been approved via the doing sod all route so something will emerge eventually.
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February 21, 2017, 06:17:05 PM

Is there any reason at all for SEC to wait before they reject the ETF though? Even on 10th of march, it should be obvious that it's getting approved no?

Is there any reason for the SEC to come out with a decision before they have to? Its quite obv imo that they take as much time as they can to come to a conclusion.



They've had 3 years, not sure why they would need an additional 10 days or whatever lol

probably cuz they only started to seriously look at it 5 days ago....   why make a decision today/this month/this year, when you can just do an extension and make it someone else's problem later?

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February 21, 2017, 06:18:35 PM

Is there any reason at all for SEC to wait before they reject the ETF though? Even on 10th of march, it should be obvious that it's getting approved no?

Is there any reason for the SEC to come out with a decision before they have to? Its quite obv imo that they take as much time as they can to come to a conclusion.



They've had 3 years, not sure why they would need an additional 10 days or whatever lol

They need to see what PBOC will do!
But PBOC need to see what SEC will do!
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February 21, 2017, 06:26:22 PM

I know the odds are against it but I can't help thinking maybe it might just pass.  I mean, bitcoin is going to happen anyway and the SEC, the governments can't really control that and they must know it.  But an ETF would give them the ability to control the big money that goes in and out of bitcoin even if they can't control bitcoin itself.  An ETF would open up a huge regulatable gateway to bitcoin, of which the government can play gatekeepers to their heart's content!  If the SEC sees it that way, I think it's in  Tongue

Blockchain is the latest business buzzword, despite most business people not having a clue what it is. The ETF might get approved simply because someone important heard its got something to do with blockchain.
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February 21, 2017, 06:31:41 PM

The longer we go without a decision the more likely the ETF passes. If no decision is made by March 11, then the rule change is automatically approved.

One of the most likely things that people do when faced with a tough decision is to do nothing.
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February 21, 2017, 06:32:11 PM

I know the odds are against it but I can't help thinking maybe it might just pass.  I mean, bitcoin is going to happen anyway and the SEC, the governments can't really control that and they must know it.  But an ETF would give them the ability to control the big money that goes in and out of bitcoin even if they can't control bitcoin itself.  An ETF would open up a huge regulatable gateway to bitcoin, of which the government can play gatekeepers to their heart's content!  If the SEC sees it that way, I think it's in  Tongue

Blockchain is the latest business buzzword, despite most business people not having a clue what it is. The ETF might get approved simply because someone important heard its got something to do with blockchain.

We need a Blockchain ETF!  And an HTTP ETF!!  And an IOT ETF!  ETF all the things!
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