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May 11, 2017, 06:09:02 AM

1800 - came up a little faster than I expected, as did 1500.

Beginning to run out of targets and doubling time is now ~ 3 months.

Unless we get a long slow correction or some sideways consolidation things are going to get really nutz as it blows off and nobody really knows where it will top out (3600 mid-June or 7200 early July???) ... or where it will end up on the other side of such an exponential blow-off run.

Let's say the whacky target is $10,000. After all, this is Bitcoin.

masterluc hasn't adjusted his top call of ~$9588 afaik ... so there is that one (based bull run beginning around low of $155 and previous adoption wave amplitudes 62x)

Where can I see this prediction/chart?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274613.msg17280401#msg17280401
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May 11, 2017, 06:24:26 AM

I understand that we need all kinds of philosophies and views in order that the market has it's UPs, DOWNs and unexpected movements, it is just difficult for me to relate to folks who play with their whole holdings (or make such assertions)

Well, unfortunately I did not have the foresight to hodl all the BTC I have bought/owned throughout the years, so I own very little BTC... so little that it is pretty much "play money" for me. I am also a bit of a gambler. Grin

Maybe there are just people with different mind-sets, and key to your own self-description is to assert that you are a bit of a gambler.

There may be some additional issue that you have, too, which is maybe you don't really believe in BTC fundamentals and how unique bitcoin is, in terms of its upside potential and its investment potential.

Regarding gambling:  I gamble too, but usually only with a small percentage of my assets.

Regarding investing in bitcoin:  The amount that you have should not cause you to increase your tendency to gamble, because if you keep gambling, then sooner or later you are going to lose everything, so the odds are against you to be able to build a significant amount in your holdings.

There can be ways that you could gamble with something like 20% of your funds and still have a lot of fun with it, and to have a more serious strategy with the other 80%...

Let's say that you only have about $100 per month that you can invest.  You could invest 80% in a kind of solid method, and play around with 20%, and it still adds up over time.  In a year, you would have invested $80 x 12 = $920, and gambled with $20 x 12 = $240  - and then you could still see how each of the strategies play out and to attempt to learn from it.

I have nothing against devising strategies to make more money, but you still have to have some longer term ideas and attempt to learn from your mistakes, no?  Everyone makes mistakes... I have made a lot of mistakes over the years, but I have also learned that having an investment strategy causes me to have a larger pool of funds and even a larger pool of funds that I could gamble with, if I were to chose to gamble with a certain portion of my funds.



I am just having fun really. Maybe I lose a bit, or maybe I won't.... we shall see!


The odds are that you will lose.  Even if you win this bet and the next bet and the next bet.  If your strategy is to continue to bet, then sooner or later you are going to lose everything.  That is why devising a more solid strategy is preferable - and still allows you to bet and to have fun with a smaller portion without risking everything.






One thing's for certain... I refuse to buy back in at a loss, so I am on the sidelines for now.


That is not a very good approach.

Of course, there is a philosophy that you buy low and sell high.  Buy lower than you sell and sell higher than you buy, but if you simplify the situation too much, then sometimes you are going to make mistakes.

It is better to plan a bit better, and you can plan a bit better that causes you to have funds that are ones in which you have equity and you can sell at any time and have equity.. but you can still buy back too.. as a kind of reinvestment after you have taken some profits off of the table.




It looks like all the whales decided to start buying after I sold, lol. Maybe it will correct back down sooner or later. Smiley


Yep.. it might correct back down, after passing $3k... and it will correct down to $1,700.. and in the meantime, you lose lots of opportunities because you bet too much in one direction and do not prepare for the other direction. There is a way to prepare for either direction and still profit no matter which direction.  Preparing yourself for either direction is the better way to do it.


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May 11, 2017, 06:34:14 AM

Goal for this year

== 2017$

incoming ...

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May 11, 2017, 06:52:06 AM

Wow we keep on running up.
So it looks like we will go for $2000 I think.
Expect some profit taking there.
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May 11, 2017, 06:56:47 AM

You need to think that* through.

*relying on a third party to authorise your transactions.

It wouldn't require entrusting stuff to a third party. Your keys would be shared between two devices and you'd need both to sign a transaction. I think this was the paper: https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/629.pdf

Thanks, I'll have a read. I thought you wanted to trust Authy.
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May 11, 2017, 06:59:27 AM

i simply cannot wrap my brain around this action among the seeming chaos of the scaling issue. to judge by the talk, we should, at best, be stable, not climbing. Yet here we are, record highs.

i really am kicking myself over those 10 coins i sold to my brother for $1000. total. :| at the time, that was the price... heck, i think i actually did it in my favor by a percent or two. argh.

and then there's the 15 or so coins i spent on games and other crap... ugh.
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May 11, 2017, 07:04:59 AM

Good morning, gentlemen.  Still at it I see?



The good ole days.

I hope we can laugh about it now. He really was a professional.

I member, 280 and bellow did hurt...for a bit. Not sure if i'd say s/he was a professionally but s/he was definitely something. Where did Stofi go is he still around here?
Jstolfi is active on r/btc, the BU crowd loves him.

Huh so he finally found his crowd. Thought he'd get bored singing to a choir there. On a side note, Segwit on LTC is a major win for core, r/btc will need bigger guns to put a negative spin on that

Stolfi had/has deep seated issues that crave recognition both from the establishment (his parents) and a set of followers (the other kids).

The Mayor played Lambie very well. Take that whichever way suits.
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May 11, 2017, 07:07:48 AM

salute to all of you hodlers who made a fortune.

enjoy,relax,be humble

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May 11, 2017, 07:09:45 AM

Very tastefull cup of coffee Grin



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May 11, 2017, 07:10:36 AM

I have a side bet with a friend of mine.  I allowed him to choose the over or under for price touching 2k by the end of the month.  He took the under.

I had to let him choose because I took the over on passing $1250 when we passed the price of gold
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May 11, 2017, 07:11:41 AM

Very tastefull cup of coffee Grin




Suppose the cup chartists are right. What would that imply about the price in the near future?
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May 11, 2017, 07:13:57 AM

Very tastefull cup of coffee Grin




Suppose the cup chartists are right. What would that imply about the price in the near future?

1w chart RSI soon above 80. So we will have some small dip.
After that next cup will be forming  Cool
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May 11, 2017, 07:18:35 AM

Blow-off top incoming.....could stretch out to 1900's. i still say we retest the 1300 breakout zone, but who da fak knows...it could launch.
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May 11, 2017, 07:22:59 AM

Blow-off top incoming.....could stretch out to 1900's. i still say we retest the 1300 breakout zone, but who da fak knows...it could launch.

There just no coins left for sale across most exchanges. This bullwhale ate it all Finex got BTC646 till $1990 stamp got like BTC1k
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May 11, 2017, 07:27:41 AM

Blow-off top incoming.....could stretch out to 1900's. i still say we retest the 1300 breakout zone, but who da fak knows...it could launch.

There just no coins left for sale across most exchanges. This bullwhale ate it all Finex got BTC646 till $1990 stamp got like BTC1k

So, straight to 10K ?  Cool
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May 11, 2017, 07:32:42 AM

Now gotta wake up every morning and pray the price hasn't crashed.

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May 11, 2017, 07:34:21 AM

Blow-off top incoming.....could stretch out to 1900's. i still say we retest the 1300 breakout zone, but who da fak knows...it could launch.

There just no coins left for sale across most exchanges. This bullwhale ate it all Finex got BTC646 till $1990 stamp got like BTC1k

So, straight to 10K ?  Cool

It wouldn't take much to create hysteria, and Bitcoin hodlers are an odd ideological bunch so many won't sell at any price. Under right conditions i wouldn't rule anything out. At this point we broke through the resistance of market makers and their bands and are now just free floating.
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May 11, 2017, 07:34:50 AM

Good morning, gentlemen.  Still at it I see?



The good ole days.

I hope we can laugh about it now. He really was a professional.

I member, 280 and bellow did hurt...for a bit. Not sure if i'd say s/he was a professionally but s/he was definitely something. Where did Stofi go is he still around here?
Jstolfi is active on r/btc, the BU crowd loves him.

Huh so he finally found his crowd. Thought he'd get bored singing to a choir there. On a side note, Segwit on LTC is a major win for core, r/btc will need bigger guns to put a negative spin on that

Stolfi had/has deep seated issues that crave recognition both from the establishment (his parents) and a set of followers (the other kids).

The Mayor played Lambie very well. Take that whichever way suits.

Random. Wut?
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May 11, 2017, 07:35:01 AM

Now gotta wake up every morning and pray the price hasn't crashed.



Simple, just don't sleep  Grin
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May 11, 2017, 07:36:46 AM

Wow. Checked in after a few frosties after the ball game just in time to see $1800USD and $2500CAD left behind.

Good sport.

I pity those without coins.


One thing is not having coins because you didn't really know about bitcoin; however, there are some people who know about bitcoin, and they still do not have any coins. 

The first group can be excused, because there are a lot of them.  The second group is a bit more problematic, and maybe pitiful, as you indicate.
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