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[r0ach]

Usury was the job Christians gave Jews when they banned them from other jobs.

Lol, that's a great lie you got there.  Religions ban usury because it's just an evil, obfuscated form of slavery, yet they're going to allow others to practice this evil against them?  Yea, no.  Many of these Ashkenazi Khazars aren't even real jews.  They converted to Judaism in the 5th century AD or something to avoid war with christians and muslims, then started trying to insert themselves as middlemen into these nation's affairs and lending to their kings to wage war against each other.  

They then decided why go through a middle man like a king when they can just issue the money directly to the citizens as a loan (debt based currency), so they were instrumental in overthrowing the monarchs in places like the French revolution.  The entire history of the modern world is nothing but Jewish economic warfare trying to enslave the common man.  They are parasites that have to be expelled.  It doesn't matter if not all of them are guilty of it. The facts through history show that if you only throw one or two of their Bernie Madoffs in jail, they are instantly replaced by new ones.  This is why so many nations have expelled ALL of them, over 109 times and counting.

Anyone that has a shred of knowledge on finance or history is against this evil cult.

[conspirosphere.tk]

I didn't really understand what she was talking about so I asked "like what?". Her response was "property"..."or a mansion".

I just told her I would rather retire than worry about stuff.

A little mansion (or bunker) in the right place could help you to get fiscal residence there and could be useful for your retirement. Like in Panama maybe.

[bitserve]

I feel a weekend pump coming...will we push above $5k or is that going to be a tough one to push through?


On a different note I got a text from my sister of "wow, $4,400 that's amazing". I replied that I was pleased. She replied saying "you should start buying stuff".

I didn't really understand what she was talking about so I asked "like what?". Her response was "property"..."or a mansion".

I just told her I would rather retire than worry about stuff.

I think she is talking about diversifying your investment... that you convert some of your "digital money" into some "real assets" just in case it goes down again. It's a reasonable advice coming from a non-believer. And she is not completely wrong anyways.

[Torque]

I think she is talking about diversifying your investment... that you convert some of your "digital money" into some "real assets" just in case it goes down again. It's a reasonable advice coming from a non-believer. And she is not completely wrong anyways.

Diversifying a little bit into some other deflationary hard assets might not be a bad thing along the way. But what most people don't understand is that holding out for longer can reap enormous upside for bitcoin, so diversifying too soon can feel like a big mistake.

For example, why convert 20 bitcoins for a $86K piece of property now, when you might be able to do that for as little as 2 bitcoins just 5 years from now? Five years from now that property is not going to cost much more, if any more. Of course no one knows the future of the market, but the upside potential with bitcoin is unbelievable. Holding out on diversifying reaps crazy rewards.

[bitserve]

Real estate isn't really "stuff".

It's a hell of a lot more "stuff" than make believe super mario tokens.  The only downside is that in lieu of hyperinflation, the price of real estate should collapse to 1/2 or less of what it is now, so they will likely print us into hyperinflation to prevent deflationary collapse since it's the lesser evil of allowing the system to continue for a brief period longer.  Silver is one of the few underpriced assets on the entire planet right now, while gold is also lower than it should be, but not anywhere to the extent of silver.

I think you know even less about real state than you do about Bitcoin. The real state bubble exploded years ago. Maybe in some places/locations/type of property there is still some overprice.... but there are LOTS of great buying opportunities.

Ie: PLease tell me how do you consider this overpriced, and how could it go 1/2 from here?:

https://www.idealista.com/inmueble/32360792/

It's just an example. Could show you hundred of others.

[gentlemand]

I think you know even less about real state than you do about Bitcoin. The real state bubble exploded years ago. Maybe in some places/locations/type of property there is still some overprice.... but there are LOTS of great buying opportunities.

It completely depends on where you live. In the UK it most certainly has not exploded.

[julian071]

Real estate isn't really "stuff".

It's a hell of a lot more "stuff" than make believe super mario tokens.  The only downside is that in lieu of hyperinflation, the price of real estate should collapse to 1/2 or less of what it is now, so they will likely print us into hyperinflation to prevent deflationary collapse since it's the lesser evil of allowing the system to continue for a brief period longer.  Silver is one of the few underpriced assets on the entire planet right now, while gold is also lower than it should be, but not anywhere to the extent of silver.

I think you know even less about real state than you do about Bitcoin. The real state bubble exploded years ago. Maybe in some places/locations/type of property there is still some overprice.... but there are LOTS of great buying opportunities.

Ie: PLease tell me how do you consider this overpriced, and how could it go 1/2 from here?:

https://www.idealista.com/inmueble/32360792/

It's just an example. Could show you hundred of others.

Lol an appartment like that would be around 175.000 where I live =D

[xhomerx10]

Real estate isn't really "stuff".

It's a hell of a lot more "stuff" than make believe super mario tokens.  The only downside is that in lieu of hyperinflation, the price of real estate should collapse to 1/2 or less of what it is now, so they will likely print us into hyperinflation to prevent deflationary collapse since it's the lesser evil of allowing the system to continue for a brief period longer.  Silver is one of the few underpriced assets on the entire planet right now, while gold is also lower than it should be, but not anywhere to the extent of silver.

I think you know even less about real state than you do about Bitcoin. The real state bubble exploded years ago. Maybe in some places/locations/type of property there is still some overprice.... but there are LOTS of great buying opportunities.

Ie: PLease tell me how do you consider this overpriced, and how could it go 1/2 from here?:

https://www.idealista.com/inmueble/32360792/

It's just an example. Could show you hundred of others.

Lol an appartment like that would be around 175.000 where I live =D

 175.000 is really not very meaningful on an international website.  Is that a decimal place or a separator?  Also, is that denominated in Bitcoins or a fiat currency?

[julian071]

It's in Euro's, just like the link in the post I quoted.

Was checking around and prices have seem to have gone up, it's more like 200k euro's now haha.

[CoinCube]

Jews!

For those interested in why r0ach position on this issue lacks insight and is ultimately foolish I would refer you to our prior debate on this topic.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg19727955#msg19727955

As this is the Wall Observer thread not the "It's all the Jews fault" thread I will refrain from copying those prior arguments here.

[bitserve]

I think you know even less about real state than you do about Bitcoin. The real state bubble exploded years ago. Maybe in some places/locations/type of property there is still some overprice.... but there are LOTS of great buying opportunities.

It completely depends on where you live. In the UK it most certainly has not exploded.

Yep, there are places where the effect has not been so big. Also premium places usually always have some fixed demand AND sellers just can wait for years without hurry for selling, so price keeps high.

But as a bargain hunter I can tell you, there are good investments in real state you can find. Of course nowhere near the ROI Bitcoin have had for the past couple years... but more "safe" investment... thus less potential return.

Lol an appartment like that would be around 175.000 where I live =D
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And also where I live... And I can't even imagine the price of an equivalent apartment in the middle of Manhattan. But that is a different story.
I am just saying it is possible to do good investments in real state nowadays if you do your homework.

[xhomerx10]

It's in Euro's, just like the link in the post I quoted.

Was checking around and prices have seem to have gone up, it's more like 200k euro's now haha.

 Thanks for pointing that out.  My apologies but the posts are coming in fast and furiously.  I just don't have time to read everything and I usually don't follow links.
You could buy a detached home with a bit of property in most states of the USA with that kind of money!

[Torque]

You could buy a detached home with a bit of property in most states of the USA with that kind of money!

Not for long though, so get one while you can. The deep state's long term plan is to eventually have all of the U.S. housing sector to look like Europe's: a bunch of really expensive, unaffordable 1-bedroom shoeboxes stacked on top of one another with no land that you actually own underneath.

Which is why they love so much rampant immigration, especially into the metro areas, because they know that the incoming residents will be good with it since they are already accustomed to such meager living conditions.

[bitserve]

I think she is talking about diversifying your investment... that you convert some of your "digital money" into some "real assets" just in case it goes down again. It's a reasonable advice coming from a non-believer. And she is not completely wrong anyways.

Diversifying a little bit into some other deflationary hard assets might not be a bad thing along the way. But what most people don't understand is that holding out for longer can reap enormous upside for bitcoin, so diversifying too soon can feel like a big mistake.

For example, why convert 20 bitcoins for a $86K piece of property now, when you might be able to do that for as little as 2 bitcoins just 5 years from now? Five years from now that property is not going to cost much more, if any more. Of course no one knows the future of the market, but the upside potential with bitcoin is unbelievable. Holding out on diversifying reaps crazy rewards.

Yes, until it doesn't. It's called diversifying for a reason. You diversify potential returns vs risk. A well balanced portfolio should include a mix with different risk levels. Elwar has been very fortunate in his past moves until now. That's undeniable. But it would make sense to start diversifying even if a little. YOu don't do it to earn more, you do it to LOCK some. You don't LOCK everything either. The percentages are variable depending on how aggressive or convervative one wants his portfolio to be.

[bitserve]

It's in Euro's, just like the link in the post I quoted.

Was checking around and prices have seem to have gone up, it's more like 200k euro's now haha.

 Thanks for pointing that out.  My apologies but the posts are coming in fast and furiously.  I just don't have time to read everything and I usually don't follow links.
You could buy a detached home with a bit of property in most states of the USA with that kind of money!

For 36.500€ or for 175.000€?

Another problem in the USA is that property is HEAVILY taxed yearly. No wonder most people there don't own their homes, but rent it.

[julian071]

It's in Euro's, just like the link in the post I quoted.

Was checking around and prices have seem to have gone up, it's more like 200k euro's now haha.

 Thanks for pointing that out.  My apologies but the posts are coming in fast and furiously.  I just don't have time to read everything and I usually don't follow links.
You could buy a detached home with a bit of property in most states of the USA with that kind of money!

No offense taken!

On topic, I hardly do any daytrading anymore but imma gonna short a little this weekend. In fact I already did. Just have this feeling. Even tho the trend is obviously up.


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You could buy a detached home with a bit of property in most states of the USA with that kind of money!

Not for long though, so get one while you can. The deep state's long term plan is to eventually have all of the U.S. housing sector to look like Europe's: a bunch of really expensive, unaffordable 1-bedroom shoeboxes stacked on top one another with no land that you actually own underneath.

Which is why they love so much rampant immigration, especially into the metro areas, because they know that the incoming residents will be good with it since they are already accustomed to such meager living conditions.

I thoroughly love my shoebox, and I own 1/3d of the ground beneath it. To be clear, I am not an immigrant, I'm just used to living in a densely populated area. You obviously aren't, just please don't push your frame of reference on people like me.

[machasm]

I think she is talking about diversifying your investment... that you convert some of your "digital money" into some "real assets" just in case it goes down again. It's a reasonable advice coming from a non-believer. And she is not completely wrong anyways.

Diversifying a little bit into some other deflationary hard assets might not be a bad thing along the way. But what most people don't understand is that holding out for longer can reap enormous upside for bitcoin, so diversifying too soon can feel like a big mistake.

For example, why convert 20 bitcoins for a $86K piece of property now, when you might be able to do that for as little as 2 bitcoins just 5 years from now? Five years from now that property is not going to cost much more, if any more. Of course no one knows the future of the market, but the upside potential with bitcoin is unbelievable. Holding out on diversifying reaps crazy rewards.

I know what you mean Torque as a few have said the same to me, yet if I want crazy rewards then bitcoin seems to be the best investment of all. The trouble is all of our eggs are in the one BTC basket. If (God forbid) it tanks to nothing then we have no other asset to fall back on.
problem is, I just can't bring myself to part with any of it to diversify with!!

[Dotto]

In the meantime, cupn´handle in BCH, currently at .14

For us bothholders is like a continuation of the rally. My gut says it can go to .3 in no time. Lets see

[Torque]

I know what you mean Torque as a few have said the same to me, yet if I want crazy rewards then bitcoin seems to be the best investment of all. The trouble is all of our eggs are in the one BTC basket. If (God forbid) it tanks to nothing then we have no other asset to fall back on.
problem is, I just can't bring myself to part with any of it to diversify with!!

Yeah, notice that whenever someone makes some gains, the immediately reply from a friend/family/co-worker is always "SELL!" or "DIVERSIFY!!" or "BUY STUFF!" It's all part of that brainwashing from birth that the state does.

Thank the godz I didn't listen to my (former) accountant. He told me to stay away from bitcoin entirely. Then he backpedaled and said that if I "get lucky" and make some gains, to immediately sell everything.

This is why the little guy never gets ahead in life, because they are constantly being told to stay away from risk or opportunity. If I had listened to his stupid sage advice, I wouldn't be on the edge of early retirement right now. I'd just have some small amount of fiat. Or "stuff".

If you are really that worried, put 10-20% fiat on the sidelines, and if bitcoin crashes, buy it up at a supreme discount.

[podyx]

Why is bcc rallying while btc crashing?

Any good reason why?