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August 13, 2017, 07:16:19 PM

The world is hungry for bitcoins. Very hungry! Every bitcoin during dips will be snapped up immediately.

becoin, 3rd party segcoin is not the coin the world will be hungry for, as the poor will be priced out with huge tx fees.

Pumpy, the poor like you that can't afford to pay bitcoin tx fees will use LNs for their payments.

im so confused by you, lol,
you spend allday on eth forum , sayin, bankers this and control that lol and when it now comes to btc being controlled by a 3rd party, your all happy...is it the greed?

Bitcoin isn't controlled by anyone.

The most enthusiastic fan of Vitalik's coin is now criticizing bitcoin for being controlled by a third party. I'm so confused by you, Pumpy... lol
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August 13, 2017, 07:22:59 PM

I drive an 100% EV, bought from bitcoin earnings.

EV? something like this?



true men drive classic cars with engines that you can hear.
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August 13, 2017, 07:32:00 PM

yea eth=Vitalik coin, lol
btc used to be everyones coin...

Yeah, now big blocktards have their own BCH coin to play with, but they are not happy. I wonder why?... lol
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sell farm ~ all into bitcoin $5000 easy now//^ Grin  Wink  Kiss weeeeeeeeee
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Even with my high net worth I bought an 1800 dollar car. Cars are bad investments unless you are trying to get some sort of business clients by displaying your wealth so that they will invest their money in you. Or to get a mate.

Between about 2001 and 2010, I had a really decent income, and I continued to drive pretty inexpensive cars; however, in 2010, I had some mechanical problems with my inexpensive car, and I decided to buy a luxury car.  Wow.  That brought me a lot of happiness to get the bluetooth built in and the keyless entry and the smooth ride.. and sure it depreciated a lot in value, but I have owned the 2010 car for nearly 8 years now.. so there is some value in that.  Of course, now, you could buy some 8 year old car that has a lot of built in technology, too... and makes your life much nicer... you don't have to buy it new.. or buying a 3 year old car can take away quite a bit of that depreciation concern.. sure it is not going to go up in value and sure it is going to continue to depreciate (at a lower rate) , but frequently there can be a lot of utility in having some nice stuff, and it is not merely about impressing other people but bringing a certain amount of comfort and good feeling to yourself.
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August 13, 2017, 07:59:45 PM

yea eth=Vitalik coin, lol
btc used to be everyones coin...
now btc = segwits coin , 2nd layer, 3rd party  Cry

Yeah, now big blocktards have their own BCH coin to play with, but they are not happy. I wonder why?... lol

why dont you just admit, you prefer a 3rd party controlling btc as long as it makes you profit.lol
 You wonder why...ill tell you, because if this isnt stopped then, 6months ,1yr ltr the rules will change for all of us, the fees will go up.
All btc wallet holders all exchanges will have to go by rules & prices set up by a for profit company (blockstream and btc leader samson mow)
they have already censored r/bitcoin, next it will be the tx on btc...
but as usual im one of the first to notice( eth $1, xrp 1cent)
and the rest will realise ltr what im saying...for many it will be to late.

Stop whining, Pumpy! I've warned ya to sell the eth fork and the bankcoin (aka ripple) for profit while you can. Now go and troll the BCH forums.
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August 13, 2017, 08:08:17 PM

why dont you just admit, you prefer a 3rd party controlling btc as long as it makes you profit.lol
 You wonder why...ill tell you, because if this isnt stopped then, 6months ,1yr ltr the rules will change for all of us, the fees will go up.
All btc wallet holders all exchanges will have to go by rules & prices set up by a for profit company (blockstream and btc leader samson mow)
they have already censored r/bitcoin, next it will be the tx on btc...
but as usual im one of the first to notice( eth $1, xrp 1cent)
and the rest will realise ltr what im saying...for many it will be to late.

While anyone can setup a second layer on bitcoin -and make money on it-, very few could run a bigblock node "for free".
That's where your bigblocktardness fails.
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August 13, 2017, 08:32:57 PM

The world is hungry for bitcoins. Very hungry! Every bitcoin during dips will be snapped up immediately.

becoin, 3rd party segcoin is not the coin the world will be hungry for, as the poor will be priced out with huge tx fees.

Pumpy, the poor like you that can't afford to pay bitcoin tx fees will use LNs for their payments.


But, to open or close a channel in LN, you should not make a transition in the bitcoin blockchain?
It seems to me that if everyone wants to adopt bitcoin, LN is not enough.

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August 13, 2017, 08:46:50 PM

The world is hungry for bitcoins. Very hungry! Every bitcoin during dips will be snapped up immediately.

becoin, 3rd party segcoin is not the coin the world will be hungry for, as the poor will be priced out with huge tx fees.

Pumpy, the poor like you that can't afford to pay bitcoin tx fees will use LNs for their payments.


But, to open or close a channel in LN, you should not make a transition in the bitcoin blockchain?
It seems to me that if everyone wants to adopt bitcoin, LN is not enough.



And that's the reason a blocksize increase WILL be needed. Noone can deny that, it's only the timing, the size of blocksize increase and the process to implement it what is on the table.
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August 13, 2017, 08:48:23 PM

I drive an 100% EV, bought from bitcoin earnings.

EV? something like this?



true men drive classic cars with engines that you can hear.

You mean like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19wYCVGJBcM
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August 13, 2017, 08:55:04 PM

why dont you just admit, you prefer a 3rd party controlling btc as long as it makes you profit.lol
 You wonder why...ill tell you, because if this isnt stopped then, 6months ,1yr ltr the rules will change for all of us, the fees will go up.
All btc wallet holders all exchanges will have to go by rules & prices set up by a for profit company (blockstream and btc leader samson mow)
they have already censored r/bitcoin, next it will be the tx on btc...
but as usual im one of the first to notice( eth $1, xrp 1cent)
and the rest will realise ltr what im saying...for many it will be to late.

While anyone can setup a second layer on bitcoin -and make money on it-, very few could run a bigblock node "for free".
That's where your bigblocktardness fails.


I live in a Third World country.
My first computer, purchased in 2010, still supports the bitcoin chain. And it would even with x2 blocks. Today I have a second computer, bought in 2016, that would easily support 4MB block for a few more years.
And it is to be expected in the next 5 years, the capacity and rapidity of hardware will increase exponentially.
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I live in a Third World country.
My first computer, purchased in 2010, still supports the bitcoin chain. And it would even with x2 blocks. Today I have a second computer, bought in 2016, that would easily support 4MB block for a few more years.
And it is to be expected in the next 5 years, the capacity and rapidity of hardware will increase exponentially.

Your first computer was purchased 7 years ago and you make assumptions about future exponential rise of hardware?

You make me laugh.
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August 13, 2017, 09:14:33 PM

why dont you just admit, you prefer a 3rd party controlling btc as long as it makes you profit.lol
 You wonder why...ill tell you, because if this isnt stopped then, 6months ,1yr ltr the rules will change for all of us, the fees will go up.
All btc wallet holders all exchanges will have to go by rules & prices set up by a for profit company (blockstream and btc leader samson mow)
they have already censored r/bitcoin, next it will be the tx on btc...
but as usual im one of the first to notice( eth $1, xrp 1cent)
and the rest will realise ltr what im saying...for many it will be to late.

While anyone can setup a second layer on bitcoin -and make money on it-, very few could run a bigblock node "for free".
That's where your bigblocktardness fails.


I live in a Third World country.
My first computer, purchased in 2010, still supports the bitcoin chain. And it would even with x2 blocks. Today I have a second computer, bought in 2016, that would easily support 4MB block for a few more years.
And it is to be expected in the next 5 years, the capacity and rapidity of hardware will increase exponentially.

You say hard disk capacity is growing exponentially? Really?
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more like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RESC54vHr40
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August 13, 2017, 09:17:24 PM

You say hard disk capacity is growing exponentially? Really?

His first computer had 120 GB HDD, and today he has 500 GB.
Looks exponential to me.
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August 13, 2017, 09:19:23 PM

why dont you just admit, you prefer a 3rd party controlling btc as long as it makes you profit.lol
 You wonder why...ill tell you, because if this isnt stopped then, 6months ,1yr ltr the rules will change for all of us, the fees will go up.
All btc wallet holders all exchanges will have to go by rules & prices set up by a for profit company (blockstream and btc leader samson mow)
they have already censored r/bitcoin, next it will be the tx on btc...
but as usual im one of the first to notice( eth $1, xrp 1cent)
and the rest will realise ltr what im saying...for many it will be to late.

While anyone can setup a second layer on bitcoin -and make money on it-, very few could run a bigblock node "for free".
That's where your bigblocktardness fails.


I live in a Third World country.
My first computer, purchased in 2010, still supports the bitcoin chain. And it would even with x2 blocks. Today I have a second computer, bought in 2016, that would easily support 4MB block for a few more years.
And it is to be expected in the next 5 years, the capacity and rapidity of hardware will increase exponentially.
Where are you precisely?
If you need a 2years pc I might send you one, piece by piece. Maybe motherboard harddisk.
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August 13, 2017, 09:19:43 PM

The world is hungry for bitcoins. Very hungry! Every bitcoin during dips will be snapped up immediately.

becoin, 3rd party segcoin is not the coin the world will be hungry for, as the poor will be priced out with huge tx fees.

Pumpy, the poor like you that can't afford to pay bitcoin tx fees will use LNs for their payments.


But, to open or close a channel in LN, you should not make a transition in the bitcoin blockchain?
It seems to me that if everyone wants to adopt bitcoin, LN is not enough.



And that's the reason a blocksize increase WILL be needed. Noone can deny that, it's only the timing, the size of blocksize increase and the process to implement it what is on the table.


Yeah; however, can you see that it hardly makes any sense to even be talking about the timing of such a blocksize limit increase at this time, when segwit is barely even going to be activated so it is going to take quite a bit of time to figure out how segwit plays out.  A blocksize increase might be years down the road, so why we trying to  put the cart before the horse and act as if this blocksize limit question is some kind of urgent (or emergency) consideration when such is far from true.. the only emergency that seems to be in place are a bunch of bigblocker nutjobs that are pushing such nonsensical supposed technical issue for political reasons.. so currently, there is no real technical issue except to the extent that the technical issue has been fabricated and pushed into the spotlight by the various nutjob bitcoin saboteurs.
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August 13, 2017, 09:27:35 PM


I live in a Third World country.
My first computer, purchased in 2010, still supports the bitcoin chain. And it would even with x2 blocks. Today I have a second computer, bought in 2016, that would easily support 4MB block for a few more years.
And it is to be expected in the next 5 years, the capacity and rapidity of hardware will increase exponentially.

So fucking what.  Who gives a ratt's ass?    If there is no need to upgrade to 2x, then why upgrade merely because a bunch of whiners and saboteurs think that it is necessary, when there is no fucking technical issue at the moment and unlikely to have any technical issue for a few years, especially with the upcoming activation of seg wit.
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hey, if you can’t afford a $20.000 node to help this network, piss off

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