Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[kiko]

I don't mind chart buddy, but it should be made to skip an interval or two if there is no substantial change in the book.

[1715189105]

1715189105

[1715189105]

1715189105

[SAQ]

Anyone cares about this news:

Webmoney a Russian paypal like payment processor accepts bitcoins

http://blog.wmtransfer.com/en/blog/wmx-the-new-type-of-title-units#.UZiYqZFcj4s

[gizmoh]

I have no problem interpreting chartbuddy, it gives me the moving spot-price snapshot.

Let's focus on the real issue. People like posting walls, and chart buddy makes them redundant. Look at this page, most of the posts are from chartbuddy. It has a negative effect on the overall quality of the tread because it derails discussion and we end up focusing on dumb stuff. This is fine, but I think everything would be better if we went back to a human dominated wall observer.

Everyone could ignore it, but it doesn't honestly solve the problem of making people redundant. There should really be two threads, but chartbuddy would keep itself on the front page permanently, opening the floodgates for behavior like that.

To return this thread to normal, and avoid robot invasion I suggest that the issue be put to a vote.

EDIT: vote here.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=209890.0

Agreed, i miss the old  human charts accompanied by analysis/comments!

[ChartBuddy]

[samson]

Anyone cares about this news:

Webmoney a Russian paypal like payment processor accepts bitcoins

http://blog.wmtransfer.com/en/blog/wmx-the-new-type-of-title-units#.UZiYqZFcj4s

Yes, this is quite big news. Lucif was talking about it early last week if I remember correctly.

[solex]

Anyone cares about this news:

Webmoney a Russian paypal like payment processor accepts bitcoins

http://blog.wmtransfer.com/en/blog/wmx-the-new-type-of-title-units#.UZiYqZFcj4s

Yes, this is quite big news. Lucif was talking about it early last week if I remember correctly.

link to a thread about this? id like to learn more.

It was discussed here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=207711.0

[ChartBuddy]

[ManBearPig]

I don't like the idea of bots posting like this, it is just spam. The charts themselves are 99% unintelligible in my opinion.

Ban it I say, if the owner has something worth sharing, he can share it himself

I think he should fill them in to smooth surfaces and post a short video of how they evolve in time for the last 6,12 or 24 hours instead of all the instantaneous snapshots ... and rotate the perspective back slightly ... or have like a tunnel view down the center of the walls and play it as a movie as you fly through it (forward in time)

^^ this.

A gif would make sense.

+1

[samson]

Anyone cares about this news:

Webmoney a Russian paypal like payment processor accepts bitcoins

http://blog.wmtransfer.com/en/blog/wmx-the-new-type-of-title-units#.UZiYqZFcj4s

Yes, this is quite big news. Lucif was talking about it early last week if I remember correctly.

link to a thread about this? id like to learn more.

It was discussed here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=207711.0

That covers the basics.

They offer debit cards too. These can be funded in USD/EUR which you can get by selling your Bitcoin on their exchange.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=207072.msg2173417#msg2173417

[adamas]

They offer debit cards too. These can be funded in USD/EUR which you can get by selling your Bitcoin on their exchange.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=207072.msg2173417#msg2173417

  You can't trade BTC there with a basic account. You need a verified account.

[Richy_T]

I don't like the idea of bots posting like this, it is just spam. The charts themselves are 99% unintelligible in my opinion.

Ban it I say, if the owner has something worth sharing, he can share it himself

I think he should fill them in to smooth surfaces and post a short video of how they evolve in time for the last 6,12 or 24 hours instead of all the instantaneous snapshots ... and rotate the perspective back slightly ... or have like a tunnel view down the center of the walls and play it as a movie as you fly through it (forward in time)

Animated movies would be pretty cool. But animated gifs consume a huge amount of space and not everyone has a high bandwidth connection. That would be better done as an application but would not be able to be embedded in the page (it may be something that I would do at another time).

I didn't want to smooth as that could hide features. Also filling. If a wall pops up, anything behind it would not be visible. It's the difference between powerpoint-style MBA pretty picture stuff and presenting data accurately. Though I do agree that the charts are not useful for technical purposes but there are excellent services like bitcoinity for that. They are more supposed to be a way to view wall movement over time and because before, someone would post asking for charts every couple of hours.

I'll post up a poll sometime to see if it's worth continuing with ChartBuddy. I know some people like it and it's easy to hit ignore but I know it's not appreciated by everyone also.

Edit: I see there's a poll. I'll abide by that.

[Richy_T]

Let's focus on the real issue. People like posting walls, and chart buddy makes them redundant. Look at this page, most of the posts are from chartbuddy. It has a negative effect on the overall quality of the tread because it derails discussion and we end up focusing on dumb stuff. This is fine, but I think everything would be better if we went back to a human dominated wall observer.

Interesting point. Part of the reason I wrote ChartBuddy was the hope that having movement be visible on an ongoing basis would help spark conversation. That doesn't particularly seem, to have been the case though. Then again, we have seen a whole lot of stability recently (coincidence or conspiracy? )

[keewee]

Nice buy

[Missionary]

Let's focus on the real issue. People like posting walls, and chart buddy makes them redundant. Look at this page, most of the posts are from chartbuddy. It has a negative effect on the overall quality of the tread because it derails discussion and we end up focusing on dumb stuff. This is fine, but I think everything would be better if we went back to a human dominated wall observer.

Interesting point. Part of the reason I wrote ChartBuddy was the hope that having movement be visible on an ongoing basis would help spark conversation. That doesn't particularly seem, to have been the case though. Then again, we have seen a whole lot of stability recently (coincidence or conspiracy? )

The problem with ChartBuddy is the 3D-effect. It's simply to hard to read (not hard to understand, just hard to read). I find Bitcoinity to be the easiest to read when I want to see the walls.

[ChartBuddy]

[cedivad]

That's simply a 3D graph, why is that so hard to understand? It's as easy as drinking!
There are only 2 defects imo:
1) the bot should check the thread and not post the graph more than once per page
2) sometimes (really often, in fact), the 1 hour timeframe is simply too boring. A 6 or 12/24 hour tf could be much more interesting.

[oda.krell]

That's simply a 3D graph, why is that so hard to understand? It's as easy as drinking!
There are only 2 defects imo:
1) the bot should check the thread and not post the graph more than once per page
2) sometimes (really often, in fact), the 1 hour timeframe is simply too boring. A 6 or 12/24 hour tf could be much more interesting.

maybe just post every 2.5 hours?

i like chart buddy but at dull times it does show up a lot.

+1 (as an easy fix)

a better, but also more complicated solution would be one that takes into account (1) changes in the graph (i.e. if nearly no change, don't post) and (2) number of human posts in the thread since last bot post (i.e. don't spam the thread)... probably too much to ask for to program this, especially (2), but one can dream:)

[samson]

They offer debit cards too. These can be funded in USD/EUR which you can get by selling your Bitcoin on their exchange.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=207072.msg2173417#msg2173417

  You can't trade BTC there with a basic account. You need a verified account.

Any idea what it takes to become verified ?

[fr33d0miz3r]

They offer debit cards too. These can be funded in USD/EUR which you can get by selling your Bitcoin on their exchange.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=207072.msg2173417#msg2173417

  You can't trade BTC there with a basic account. You need a verified account.

Any idea what it takes to become verified ?

https://passport.wmtransfer.com/asp/WMCertify.asp

[michaelGedi]

I think the simple issue with chartbuddy is that at the moment, with low volume and therefore not much to talk about, his contribution to the current conversation is off topic