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Question: Next Bubble Top (resulting in a new ATH):
Will never reach a new ATH - 4 (5.3%)
$20,000-$49,999 - 13 (17.1%)
$50,000-$99,999 - 20 (26.3%)
$100,000-$149,999 - 17 (22.4%)
$150,000-$199,999 - 7 (9.2%)
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$250,000-$299,999 - 1 (1.3%)
$300,000-$350,000 - 1 (1.3%)
>$350,000 - 9 (11.8%)
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May 16, 2013, 06:30:48 AM
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 Shocked   13 Wall didn't work out to well
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May 16, 2013, 06:31:42 AM
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Yay for the wall eater!  Grin
Probably bots triggered by the price falling below a certain level.
This wall was stupid anyway - now someone got cheap coins and the price will go back to $114-$115.
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May 16, 2013, 06:32:21 AM
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Shocked   13 Wall didn't work out to well

was hoping it would hold till tomorrow when my money comes into gox =(
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May 16, 2013, 07:03:12 AM
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May 16, 2013, 08:02:45 AM
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May 16, 2013, 08:19:03 AM
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dhs "attacks" gox, and we are more or less level:)

i heart stability

I'm beginning to think the DDoS was meant to stop the crash, which is even more disturbing.

BTC? Stable? I don't know about that.
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May 16, 2013, 08:33:08 AM
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dhs "attacks" gox, and we are more or less level:)

i heart stability

I'm beginning to think the DDoS was meant to stop the crash, which is even more disturbing.

BTC? Stable? I don't know about that.

doubt it, bad news plus ddoss attack should have made it free fall.

seems the most stable since jan of this year.

I agree. The fact that the price is more or less the same as before the news gives me a strong assurance that we are indeed stable to some degree.
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May 16, 2013, 08:53:24 AM
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No. The price is stable as all poor souls locked with FIAT in MtGox try to buy BTC a get the hell out of MtGox ASAP. And Mr. Karpeles' silence just worsens this.

And no, there are not many options left. International wire is quite expensive, SEPA takes several weeks to finish. So many just buy BTC as soon as it lowers a bit. Thats what you call "stability".
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May 16, 2013, 08:59:10 AM
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No. The price is stable as all poor souls locked with FIAT in MtGox try to buy BTC a get the hell out of MtGox ASAP. And Mr. Karpeles' silence just worsens this.

And no, there are not many options left. International wire is quite expensive, SEPA takes several weeks to finish. So many just buy BTC as soon as it lowers a bit. Thats what you call "stability".

Mtgox USD -> AurumXchange -> Liberty Reserve
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May 16, 2013, 09:02:45 AM
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May 16, 2013, 09:08:04 AM
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I was away a couple of days, did I miss something important?
I see we finally been to 106/107, even a bid lower, better late than  never
what's next?
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May 16, 2013, 09:25:21 AM
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why do people use gox anyway?

liquidity.
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May 16, 2013, 10:02:39 AM
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May 16, 2013, 10:05:33 AM
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its good for people who want to dump 10,000 btc at once sure, but for the guy who has 500?

much better options out there.

Generally the prices are higher on mtgox so its the best place for miners to sell stock.
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May 16, 2013, 10:57:02 AM
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its good for people who want to dump 10,000 btc at once sure, but for the guy who has 500?

much better options out there.

Generally the prices are higher on mtgox so its the best place for miners to sell stock.
Another noob question:  Why is Mt.Gox<->BTC-e price difference so great?  Obviously something's making arbitrage unprofitable, but what? Huh What would the total transaction costs be for Mt.GoxBTC -> BTC-eBTC->BTC-e $ -> Mt.Gox $?  edit: forgot the final ->Mt.GoxBTC Cheesy
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May 16, 2013, 11:02:57 AM
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No. The price is stable as all poor souls locked with FIAT in MtGox try to buy BTC a get the hell out of MtGox ASAP. And Mr. Karpeles' silence just worsens this.

And no, there are not many options left. International wire is quite expensive, SEPA takes several weeks to finish. So many just buy BTC as soon as it lowers a bit. Thats what you call "stability".

I think we are complicating things here, by "we" I mean you and a few others judging the severity of the DHS news.
First, regarding "not many options left" - that is just no longer true. MtGox is no longer the center of the BTC universe, though it is still too large. This news will actually help level things and probably open other doors.

Second, stability is a ways off. We are just starting the "government/banking" journey. This news was NOTHING. Really, they aren't even going after BTC. The reason being, there are no laws which allow them to do so. Governments at this stage are afraid to, and actually don't have a clue, as what to even define BTC as. I'm afraid, for them, it is just like Internet PII. They will just be too slow to react. The only thing they can hope for is to somewhat regulate it. The banks will push for that to a point. But, we are just too small to do much about. Stopping it, being that the world will likely support it (all the while having a float of less than 11 million BTC's) is not really an option at this point. It will continue to be attractive to too many people unhappy with the state of things.

Just look at the slowness of things. And, again, they are not even attacking BTC (maybe with words) but they are just making sure regulations are being followed. And the Dwolla Gox thing is really really gray. I mean MtGox spent, what? 25 million getting things in order in the last year for this? This screams of either being overblown or too little too late.

Anything is still possible, but unless the internet gets shut down or the like, we probably continue for months if not years before we see what can amount to anything huge. And by that time we will probably be too well established imo.
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May 16, 2013, 11:12:45 AM
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Another noob question:  Why is Mt.Gox<->BTC-e price difference so great?  Obviously something's making arbitrage unprofitable, but what?

From what I have read the arbitragers were using dwolla to transfer between MtGox and BTC-e
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May 16, 2013, 11:16:47 AM
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No. The price is stable as all poor souls locked with FIAT in MtGox try to buy BTC a get the hell out of MtGox ASAP. And Mr. Karpeles' silence just worsens this.

And no, there are not many options left. International wire is quite expensive, SEPA takes several weeks to finish. So many just buy BTC as soon as it lowers a bit. Thats what you call "stability".

I think we are complicating things here, by "we" I mean you and a few others judging the severity of the DHS news.
First, regarding "not many options left" - that is just no longer true. MtGox is no longer the center of the BTC universe, though it is still too large. This news will actually help level things and probably open other doors.

Second, stability is a ways off. We are just starting the "government/banking" journey. This news was NOTHING. Really, they aren't even going after BTC. The reason being, there are no laws which allow them to do so. Governments at this stage are afraid to, and actually don't have a clue, as what to even define BTC as. I'm afraid, for them, it is just like Internet PII. They will just be too slow to react. The only thing they can hope for is to somewhat regulate it. The banks will push for that to a point. But, we are just too small to to much about. Stopping it, being that the world will likely support it (all the while having a float of less than 11 million BTC's) is not really an option at this point. It will continue to be attractive to too many people unhappy with the state of things.

Just look at the slowness of things. And, again, they are not even attacking BTC (maybe with words) but they are just making sure regulations are being followed. And the Dwolla Gox thing is really really gray. I mean MtGox spent, what? 25 million getting things in order in the last year for this? This screams of either being overblown or too little too late.

Anything is still possible, but unless the internet gets shut down or the like, we probably continue for months if not years before we see what can amount to anything huge. And by that time we will probably be too well established imo.

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yep, and if there is one thing I've learnt from spending too much time in the speculation forum, it's that this subgroup of bitcoiners are WAY too sensitive to news about bitcoin, positive or negative and they/we certainly thrive on every little bit of drama and enjoy taking things to extremes. The DHS issue is a grey area in the negative, on the other hand. VC investments and other developments are grey areas in the positive. Nothing is clear cut one way or the other
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May 16, 2013, 11:17:22 AM
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anyone noticing the perfect bounce along the 114 line for the last 2 hours?
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