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December 22, 2017, 04:22:37 PM |
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If you think liquidity is an issue now. Just wait until the big boys start to realize they need to balance their holdings with actual BTC so that they can play in the market. All other alts will benefit. In 2020 it will be 20/20
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There are several different types of Bitcoin clients. The most secure are full nodes like Bitcoin Core, which will follow the rules of the network no matter what miners do. Even if every miner decided to create 1000 bitcoins per block, full nodes would stick to the rules and reject those blocks.
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FractalUniverse
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December 22, 2017, 04:25:23 PM |
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proudhon: yeah, thats some point, but do we really need new all time highs every month for cryptos to work as decentralised payment system? We actually dont.
Cryptos can't work as a decentralized payment system whether the price is high or low, or bouncing all around. Cryptos just don't work and the market is taking its time to learn that, but we're now in the final long term down trend because enough people have realized it. wrong. i bought and used cryptos (BTC, LTC) to buy real and virtual stuff many times. independent of its price. as long as there are means of exchange and shops/people accepting them, it works
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December 22, 2017, 04:27:29 PM |
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More confirmation. This was just posted on Xi Jinping's Weibo account - 比特币twats哈哈。 你们都吮吸
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fabiorem
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December 22, 2017, 04:27:34 PM |
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If you think liquidity is an issue now. Just wait until the big boys start to realize they need to balance their holdings with actual BTC so that they can play in the market. All other alts will benefit.
The big boys just want to short it to the ground, to keep their status quo. They will pump it, of course, but the dumps will be even worse. Get used to it, this will be normal now. Do you think they want a rich Earth, where the work is done by robots and everybody lives in comfort? Thats a programmer pipe dream.
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December 22, 2017, 04:33:47 PM |
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If you think liquidity is an issue now. Just wait until the big boys start to realize they need to balance their holdings with actual BTC so that they can play in the market. All other alts will benefit.
The big boys just want to short it to the ground, to keep their status quo. They will pump it, of course, but the dumps will be even worse. Get used to it, this will be normal now. Do you think they want a rich Earth, where the work is done by robots and everybody lives in comfort? Thats a programmer pipe dream. In the long run there is far less money to be made by shorting. They've only got $12500 to go and its zero, people aren't interested in a falling market. But if you create bubbles, more money jumps in and there is more to make. Just like all the other markets, the big boys will pump it up to insane values, they will cream off their share, so will we, and in the mean time, during this opportunity, Bitcoin will blossom into something amazing.
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December 22, 2017, 04:34:33 PM |
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Well, at least the fees are lower now.... Still way more expensive than FREE sepa bank transfers though.
Hey Luke, now that we DO know that the fee market works really well in subsidizing miners... can we go back to the good old "cheap tx's" until the next halving, please?
Maybe that will restore confidence in Bitcoin for the masses.... just saying.
Or, If a blocksize increase is not on the cards.... how about halving it? Maybe that will force everyone to use Segwit and accelerate LN development/deployment. No temporal fixes like a blocksize increase... no... What we got to lose? Let's just go full retard and do an all or nothing!
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December 22, 2017, 04:34:46 PM |
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If you think liquidity is an issue now. Just wait until the big boys start to realize they need to balance their holdings with actual BTC so that they can play in the market. All other alts will benefit.
The big boys just want to short it to the ground, to keep their status quo. They will pump it, of course, but the dumps will be even worse. Get used to it, this will be normal now. Do you think they want a rich Earth, where the work is done by robots and everybody lives in comfort? Thats a programmer pipe dream. Doesn't matter. Those of us who understand what this thing is will just keep getting richer the more they pump and dump. Normally they would just destroy someone who came up with a disruptive economic idea, by whatever legal or illegal means needed to get it done, but they can't do that here. There is no single point of failure, and global political cooperation to outlaw it is not even technically possible. They can't even go after the guy who released it upon the world. There is no plausible failure scenario left.
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December 22, 2017, 04:35:53 PM |
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What about the $110 tr fee?
I just bought and the fee was 26 ish USD.
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ragnar0k
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December 22, 2017, 04:35:56 PM |
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If you think liquidity is an issue now. Just wait until the big boys start to realize they need to balance their holdings with actual BTC so that they can play in the market. All other alts will benefit.
The big boys just want to short it to the ground, to keep their status quo. They will pump it, of course, but the dumps will be even worse. Get used to it, this will be normal now. Do you think they want a rich Earth, where the work is done by robots and everybody lives in comfort? Thats a programmer pipe dream. They can mostly manipulate from 10k up... before the futures were not announced. Many bought the dip now, so if they want to manipulate the market again, they need to spend more (plus, we will become more prepared as they continue to do so) Maybe some hodlers fail to hodl at 10k, but let's wait and see
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December 22, 2017, 04:40:37 PM |
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LOL banks are closed for 4 days, people cant wire money to buy the dip....well played That only leaves Jimbo Toronto's favored buying option of stuffing cash into Bitcoin ATMs, and they will probably soon be too full of cash to accept any more. No it doesn't. Over here you can use Swish 24/7 for immediate bank transfers, no fee, and btcx.se is open 24/7 and accepts Swish. That's usually where I buy now that the buy option on Blockchain.info is disabled.
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December 22, 2017, 04:42:53 PM |
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If you think liquidity is an issue now. Just wait until the big boys start to realize they need to balance their holdings with actual BTC so that they can play in the market. All other alts will benefit.
The big boys just want to short it to the ground, to keep their status quo. They will pump it, of course, but the dumps will be even worse. Get used to it, this will be normal now. Do you think they want a rich Earth, where the work is done by robots and everybody lives in comfort? Thats a programmer pipe dream. In all seriousness the status quo is going to take a huge hit. Back in 2008 when there was a credit liquidity issue we did not have the Bitcoin (BTC). The next global reset in 2020 is were BTC and this technology will shine. One of the most important things that we have seen since 2009 and unfortunately the worlds greed snaked its way into this project early on. BTC had a solution for it as greed does have a place and helps motivate people. However fear is another tool that is used to manipulate. That fear is when those in power show up with rules to bring "order". Add in projects like lightning and the value that BTC brings to the issues we face just 2 years from now will be so obvious even legally blind economists will see the possibilities.
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Biro Bob
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December 22, 2017, 04:45:54 PM |
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The Independent (UK Newspaper) is truly a pathetic excuse for journalism "For the average person like me, bitcoin is always a gamble", he told The Independent. "But people are treating it like a punt".
The entrepreneur says he's staying away from bitcoin for now, and may look into alternative cryptocurrencies such as ripple - "something with more substance - but only a little more", although he admits that "substance" isn't the best word for cryptocurrencies at the moment.
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BTCMILLIONAIRE
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December 22, 2017, 04:47:41 PM |
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If you think liquidity is an issue now. Just wait until the big boys start to realize they need to balance their holdings with actual BTC so that they can play in the market. All other alts will benefit.
The big boys just want to short it to the ground, to keep their status quo. They will pump it, of course, but the dumps will be even worse. Get used to it, this will be normal now. Do you think they want a rich Earth, where the work is done by robots and everybody lives in comfort? Thats a programmer pipe dream. Once VR becomes fully immersive and people can create arbitrary experiences at will regardless of income nobody will give a shit about money anymore anyways. And that point isn't all that far in the future. So it really doesn't matter what "they" want.
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Sitarow
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December 22, 2017, 04:49:20 PM |
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If you think liquidity is an issue now. Just wait until the big boys start to realize they need to balance their holdings with actual BTC so that they can play in the market. All other alts will benefit.
The big boys just want to short it to the ground, to keep their status quo. They will pump it, of course, but the dumps will be even worse. Get used to it, this will be normal now. Do you think they want a rich Earth, where the work is done by robots and everybody lives in comfort? Thats a programmer pipe dream. They can mostly manipulate from 10k up... before the futures were not announced. Many bought the dip now, so if they want to manipulate the market again, they need to spend more (plus, we will become more prepared as they continue to do so) Maybe some hodlers fail to hodl at 10k, but let's wait and see A good indicator is always to look at the total crypto market cap. As you can see with the recent release of BCH from coindesk that "moved" out of the crypto ecosystem into fiat of choice. Also year end is a big player not to rule out the Elephant in the room groups attempting to take over BTC. That coup d'etat that fails but never gets a hint will add further disruption.
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December 22, 2017, 04:51:41 PM |
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BITPAY REKT :\ >_>it won't/can't send to them anymore...zzz
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December 22, 2017, 04:56:23 PM |
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The Independent (UK Newspaper) is truly a pathetic excuse for journalism "For the average person like me, bitcoin is always a gamble", he told The Independent. "But people are treating it like a punt".
The entrepreneur says he's staying away from bitcoin for now, and may look into alternative cryptocurrencies such as ripple - "something with more substance - but only a little more", although he admits that "substance" isn't the best word for cryptocurrencies at the moment.
Wait, ripple is a cryptocurrency now? lol
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December 22, 2017, 04:58:43 PM Last edit: December 22, 2017, 10:09:20 PM by micgoossens |
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Breaking 24777$ prediction game
27/12/2017 bikerleszno 30/12/2017 digithusiast 31/12/2017 Raja_MBZ 02/01/2018 wachtwoord 04/01/2018 d_eddie 05/01/2018 BTCMILLIONAIRE 06/01/2018 HanvanBitcoin 07/01/2018 ghandi 08/01/2018 savetherainforrest 09/01/2018 explorer 10/01/2018 bicoinpsycho 11/01/2018 Bitcoinaire 12/01/2018 speedwheel 13/01/2018 undeadbitcoiner 14/01/2018 northypole 15/01/2018 ivomm 16/01/2018 maca068 17/01/2018 bitcoinvest 18/01/2018 last of the v8s 19/01/2018 mfort312 20/01/2018 1982dre 21/01/2018 flamast2 22/01/2018 RealMachasm 23/01/2018 willope 24/01/2018 kartala 25/01/2018 orpington 26/01/2018 rolling 27/01/2018 LFC_bitcoin 28/01/2018 jojo69 29/01/2018 CristiTCM 30/01/2018 rayX12 31/01/2018 realsteelboy 01/02/2018 twocorn 02/02/2018 mancroofer 03/02/2018 True Myth 04/02/2018 poolminor 06/02/2018 scheptan 07/02/2018 vapourminer 08/02/2018 alexeft 09/02/2018 siera 12/02/2018 yonton 13/02/2018 Wekkel 14/02/2018 Thekool1s 15/02/2018 starmman 16/02/2018 Globb0 17/02/2018 leveldkrypto 18/02/2018 olesh 19/02/2018 BitCoinBurger 20/02/2018 Paashaas 21/02/2018 flynn 22/02/2018 icygreen 23/02/2018 erisdiscordia 24/02/2018 phil_s 25/02/2018 sirazimuth 26/02/2018 Arriemoller 01/03/2018 bones261 06/03/2018 sa_94 07/03/2018 NUFCrichard 08/03/2018 Imbatman 10/03/2018 STT 11/03/2018 badream 13/03/2018 erre 15/03/2018 podyx 17/03/2018 fragout 18/03/2018 fabiorem 21/03/2018 dakustaking76 23/03/2018 nikauforest 31/03/2018 vroom 01/04/2018 somac. 02/04/2018 kurious 05/04/2018 bitcoinbunny 10/04/2018 ludwigvon 11/04/2018 hairymaclairy 27/04/2018 drbrockoin 01/05/2018 sprinkles 02/06/2018 oblox 03/08/2018 toxic2040 05/11/2018 mikenz 31/12/2018 melman2002 12/02/2019 FractalUniverse 21/04/2019 gentlemand 20/02/2020 romneymoney 18/12/2021 luckygenough56
Maybe because its This time of the year we make a small game Just to call 24777$ (CET) the one with the day of breaking This price wins .25 BTC The list Will be Made after This post So When a date is taking iT cannot been taken again When the winning date is exactly in the middle of 2 each Will get .25 Oterwhise closest to the winning date wins
LIST MAKING ENDS 25-12-2017 @ 22.00 cet
AFTER THIS POST NO MORE NEWBIES MINIMUM 50 Posts
SOME HAVE TAKEN A DATE THATS ALLREADY OCCUPIED -fluidjax -vito5 -Dotto -Ibian - - - TAKE DIFFRENT DATE PLEASE GRTS
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BTCMILLIONAIRE
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December 22, 2017, 04:59:58 PM |
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The Independent (UK Newspaper) is truly a pathetic excuse for journalism "For the average person like me, bitcoin is always a gamble", he told The Independent. "But people are treating it like a punt".
The entrepreneur says he's staying away from bitcoin for now, and may look into alternative cryptocurrencies such as ripple - "something with more substance - but only a little more", although he admits that "substance" isn't the best word for cryptocurrencies at the moment.
Wait, ripple is a cryptocurrency now? lol Not even. Breaking 24777$ prediction game
27/12/2017 bikerleszno 31/12/2017 Raja_MBZ 06/01/2018 HanvanBitcoin 07/01/2018 ghandi 08/01/2018 savetherainforrest 09/01/2018 explorer 10/01/2018 bicoinpsycho 11/01/2018 Bitcoinaire 12/01/2018 speedwheel 13/01/2018 undeadbitcoiner 14/01/2018 northypole 15/01/2018 ivomm 16/01/2018 maca068 17/01/2018 bitcoinvest 18/01/2018 last of the v8s 19/01/2018 mfort312 20/01/2018 1982dre 21/01/2018 flamast2 23/01/2018 willope 24/01/2018 kartala 25/01/2018 orpington 26/01/2018 rolling 27/01/2018 LFC_bitcoin 28/01/2018 jojo69 29/01/2018 CristiTCM 31/01/2018 realsteelboy 02/02/2018 mancroofer 03/02/2018 True Myth 07/02/2018 vapourminer 08/02/2018 alexeft 09/02/2018 siera 12/02/2018 yonton 13/02/2018 Wekkel 14/02/2018 Thekool1s 15/02/2018 starmman 16/02/2018 Globb0 17/02/2018 leveldkrypto 18/02/2018 olesh 19/02/2018 BitCoinBurger 20/02/2018 Paashaas 22/02/2018 icygreen 23/02/2018 erisdiscordia 24/02/2018 phil_s 26/02/2018 Arriemoller 06/03/2018 sa_94 07/03/2018 NUFCrichard 08/03/2018 Imbatman 11/03/2018 badream 13/03/2018 erre 17/03/2018 fragout 18/03/2018 fabiorem 21/03/2018 dakustaking76 01/04/2018 somac. 02/04/2018 kurious 05/04/2018 bitcoinbunny 11/04/2018 hairymaclairy 02/06/2018 oblox 05/11/2018 mikenz 31/12/2018 melman2002 18/12/2021 luckygenough56
Maybe because its This time of the year we make a small game Just to call 24777$ (CET) the one with the day of breaking This price wins .25 BTC The list Will be Made after This post So When a date is taking iT cannot been taken again When the winning date is exactly in the middle of 2 each Will get .25 Oterwhise closest to the winning date wins
LIST MAKING ENDS 25-12-2012 @ 22.00 cet
AFTER THIS POST NO MORE NEWBIES MINIMUM 50 Posts
I added January 6th on the WO thread, but I guess I'll go with the 5th since it's already taken.
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December 22, 2017, 05:03:04 PM Last edit: December 22, 2017, 05:38:20 PM by bones261 |
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Breaking 24777$ prediction game
Maybe because its This time of the year we make a small game Just to call 24777$ (CET) the one with the day of breaking This price wins .25 BTC The list Will be Made after This post So When a date is taking iT cannot been taken again When the winning date is exactly in the middle of 2 each Will get .25 Oterwhise closest to the winning date wins
LIST MAKING ENDS 25-12-2017 @ 22.00 cet
AFTER THIS POST NO MORE NEWBIES MINIMUM 50 Posts
SOME HAVE TAKEN A DATE THATS ALLREADY OCCUPIED -fluidjax -vito5 -wachtwoord -twocorn -realmachasm -ludwigvon -vroom -dotto -btcmillionaire TAKE DIFFRENT DATE PLEASE GRTS
I will take March 1st 2017.
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December 22, 2017, 05:06:54 PM |
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Hoi Mic,
Smijt mij er maar in op 19 -1 ( indien al bezet, 20 )
Grts
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beide bezet maar post effe iets kortbij zijn nog wel paar vrij gr
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