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[Lambie Slayer]

So @slammielayer I guess you know what you're doing. You 'outed @crumbs' after all.
But I will just say that for me keeping @roach as the subject of the conversation is very fucking tiresome.
I respect that some members find it amusing, but you clearly have enough skills and knowledge to tickle us in other ways.

Hello Vastly Lates

Point taken. I watched for years with no comment as Roach was already the subject of conversation many many times. Thats a pretty large sample to show Ive changed nothing. I could go away and nothing would change imo. I watched for years as Lambie was the prime retard here, then I decided to step in and get rid of her. You gotta admit the place looks a lot better without the porn spam. Plus the mayor was getting a crush on her which is just weird.

Everyone used to complain that no women were on this board. But it turned the likely most prolific and relentless poster/troll to ever post here was a woman. Doesnt matter to me though bc she was still a CUNT.

edit: oh yeah, its a bull market. see u at 100k

[Lambie Slayer]

@r0ach:

Is it true what Lambie Slayer is saying about you? Were you really bullish about Bitcoin in the early years, before the bear market of 2015? And did you really sell all your BTC at the bottom in 2015? I'm asking because, based on your current ideas, I find it extremely hard to believe that such things ever happened.

Just curious...

No lol.  The only such statements you will find anywhere on the internet about when I have bought and sold shitcoins is me saying I was all-in at $200 and then leveraged on top of that and made a lot of profit, unleveraged at high $700s, used 1/2 of the profit to buy physical silver, and that's the only thing anyone knows about me.  

Everything else is generated by 2 people:  Some Indian named Sidhujag who is the dev of a scamcoin named SYSCOIN, and Anonymint.  Even though he's an Indian, he despises gold for some reason and tries to hype various shitcoins as money of the future from SYSCOIN to Ethereum.  He claimed gold was going to $200 an ounce (lol) and I told him he was a complete fool.  Then Anonymint (who steals every single thing he says about economics from banker shill Martin Armstrong) also claimed gold was going to collapse to nothing (and of course it did not).

Martin Armstrong (who I hope nobody follows) told people to sell gold AT THE FLOOR $1150 while claiming it was going to collapse to $800 or lower.  I bought a bunch then and after it went up to $1300's, converted it all to silver. Anyway, Sidhujag + Anonymint are both butthurt that digital shitcoins are in no way defeating physical silver and gold at all and have been on a crusade against me ever since making up all kinds of nonsense. Anonymint above all people in the entire universe cannot stand being wrong about anything and will throw the largest tantrum ever seen when he is wrong.

Thanks for the reply.

He is lying, he was hugely bullish in 2015. He has another account he got locked out of that should have the history if someone wants to dig it up. If i recall it was Roach the unsavory one or something like that. He turned bear in 2015 and sold all his coins. He revealed a lot more back then than he is admitting.

[nutildah]

Sure. We've got a deal. I've already put my money where my mouth is. And I'll keep espousing how SV retains more of the properties of Bitcoin than does BTC - which added all manner of unnecessary counterproductive cruft.

And we'll keep reminding you of predictions you made that came to be flat out wrong, which are most if not all. Bitcoin is thriving, shitcoins are dying, I don't see what the problem is.

[realr0ach]

Sure. We've got a deal. I've already put my money where my mouth is. And I'll keep espousing how SV retains more of the properties of Bitcoin than does BTC - which added all manner of unnecessary counterproductive cruft.

And we'll keep reminding you of predictions you made that came to be flat out wrong, which are most if not all. Bitcoin is thriving, shitcoins are dying, I don't see what the problem is.

It's hard to respect Jbreher when he's unable to convey ANY type of talking points whatsoever about why he supports so and so.  For example, I say Lightning Network is garbage because it's just a permissiond ledger, recreation of the already existing banking system.  Jbreher is pro-onchain scaling, yet is unable to convey ANY type of talking points as to WHY.  If he does attempt to convey some type of talking point, it's utterly irrelevant to what 99.9% of people would actually care about.  It's like he's the poster child of educated fool.

[Lambie Slayer]

As a side note, I also find it hilarious that self proclaimed "anarchists" like Elwar and Marcus follow the Plato school of money which is clearly antithetical to anarchism, pro-state, pro-collectivism, and Keynesian in nature, while the Aristotle school of money is clearly the only anarchy aligned monetary school.

ps: he's probably just a gubmint psyop dwelling here to intentionally "crap the place up", australian maybe?

The fact I'm pro-metals and anti-evil cult of Judaism is a pretty clear sign I'm not a govt agent.  Larry Summers and Ben Bernanke, on the other hand, are both shilling for cryptocurrency.  It looks like it's YOU that is on the wrong team, not me.  Everyone and their mom knows craptocurrency is going to be a trojan horse for some sort of Chinese social credit score system in the west.

Pro Virgin, Anti leaving basement

"Everyone and their mom knows craptocurrency is going to be a trojan horse for some sort of Chinese social credit score system in the west."

Good to see you are discussing your delusions with your mummy at cookie time

[RivAngE]

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6)  There is zero reason to support designed to centralize shitcoins over physical metals

What do physical metals have to do with anything?
Can I play Axie Infinity using silver? Or can I donate unanimously to an organization sending few grammars of gold through the phone cable? (Though donations are also accepted through BTC... but I prefer altcoins when possible for lower fees)

[Lambie Slayer]

What pisses me off is people actually believe these idiotic price predictions and end up losing their savings.  A lot of suckers fell for Mcafee's 500k bitcoin.  I had close friends that got suckered into buying crypto and they felt the pain.  This ponzi scam needs to die.

Spoken like a real Assclown

[Cassius]

Bitcoin has already become a more popular store of value than silver, and that's after an 80% slide in price.
Gold is still some way ahead and likely will be for a few more years. I like it, but it's pretty inflexible when it comes to it.
But silver vs BTC? Hasn't that one already been settled by the numbers?

[Lambie Slayer]

Stop being a giant faggot worshipping a centralized, for-profit company named Blockstream.  

1)  Mental illness induced delusion.

2)  Mental illness induced delusion

3)  same

4)  yep, more Virgin Roach retard logic

6)  "Bitcoin is going to 1 million and I was tricked into silver by bagholders" (woah!!! a moment of lucid clarity in Virgin Roach's brain)

When you are a Virgin college drop out living with mummy who will have his first sex with a chick with a dick at the 100k party, you sound pretty gay calling people fags.

[Cryptotourist]

Why do I get the feeling that something is up for later this afternoon.
Like an instant spike to the moon and back - or not.
Probably delusional. Haven't really made sense of the "proof of keys" thing. Always ambiguous when herd mentality comes in to play.

@r0achie I think you want to buy BTC in the dip, so that you can finally get that silver pressure cooker you've always wanted.

[realr0ach]

Haven't really made sense of the "proof of keys" thing.

All of the exchanges are crooked, or close to it, but the Trace Meyer proof of keys thing was probably just an attempt to try and pump and dump the price by removing the sell side.  Oh no, the price of my shitcoins is crashing!  Time to try and cook up some sort of scheme to illegitimately raise the price again!  

None of the douchebags in craptocurrency care anything about the truth or whether it actually has fundamentals or not; it doesn't - transaction validators are always designed to centralize and it's impossible to create a decentralized digital currency.  All they care about is what type of Machiavellian lies and scams they can attempt to pull off to try and raise their bottom line.

[Cassius]

Why do I get the feeling that something is up for later this afternoon.
Like an instant spike to the moon and back - or not.
Probably delusional. Haven't really made sense of the "proof of keys" thing. Always ambiguous when herd mentality comes in to play.

@r0achie I think you want to buy BTC in the dip, so that you can finally get that silver pressure cooker you've always wanted.

I doubt proof of keys will come to anything. Anyone who cares already keeps their BTC off-exchange. And very few will pass up trading opportunities to move their funds to their own control anyway - assuming they even know how.

[Cryptotourist]

When you are a Virgin college drop out living with mummy who will have his first sex with a chick with a dick at the 100k party, you sound pretty gay calling people fags.

To r0achie's defense I believe he is from Austria, married with children, unfortunately suffering from a micropenis condition, with a sole desire for giant BBC's & metals.
What a sweetheart.

I doubt proof of keys will come to anything. Anyone who cares already keeps their BTC off-exchange. And very few will pass up trading opportunities to move their funds to their own control anyway - assuming they even know how.

Simple logic suggests that nothing will happen. Safe is better than sorry though.

[AlcoHoDL]

I think "Proof of Keys" is an unnecessary burden to the Bitcoin & exchange networks... I don't like the idea of shooting myself in the foot. I understand the idea of not letting exchanges use our coins in a fractional reserve setting, but I don't think it will make a difference for just one day... If they want to do it, they will, since they will always have some of our coins in their wallets. The good qualities of Bitcoin (decentralized, distributed, immutable, fungible, borderless, permissionless, rare, capped, non-inflationary), as compared to fiat, are guaranteed by its design, not by what exchanges do or don't do.

Why not do the opposite: withdraw all of our fiat from the banks! That would put a stress to their network...

[Cryptotourist]

Why not do the opposite: withdraw all of our fiat from the banks! That would put a stress to their network...

They would never let that happen. Heard of capital controls?

I love Bitcoin.

[realr0ach]

I love Bitcoin.

So much so that you are living in a statue of fanboy-ish delusion.  It's inevitable shitcoiner's will hit the mac truck of reality that the only role an imaginary, valueless, centralized token can fill is that of a 'currency', while they keep trying to shoehorn bitcoin into the role of 'money' where it's completely incapable of competing with physical metals.  An imaginary, valueless token is not a valid form of settlement.  Something of actual value has to be transferred for final settlement to occur.

[Cryptotourist]

I love Bitcoin.

So much so that you are living in a statue of fanboy-ish delusion.  It's inevitable shitcoiner's will hit the mac truck of reality that the only role an imaginary, valueless, centralized token can fill is that of a 'currency', while they keep trying to shoehorn bitcoin into the role of 'money', where it's completely incapable of competing with physical metals.  An imaginary, valueless token is not a valid form of settlement.  Something of actual value has to be transferred for final settlement to occur.

Tell me something, how is it "imaginary", when even by your claims a few posts back, you made some profit on BTC and then turned it in to silver.
I deary hope your silver is not imaginary.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

None of my coins are on exchanges so technically I’m already participating in Proof Of Keys & have been for years.

[Lambie Slayer]

When you are a Virgin college drop out living with mummy who will have his first sex with a chick with a dick at the 100k party, you sound pretty gay calling people fags.

To r0achie's defense I believe he is from Austria, married with children, unfortunately suffering from a micropenis condition, with a sole desire for giant BBC's & metals.
What a sweetheart.

Sir my elite Jewish employers would like to add you to their payroll for persecuting Virgin Roach. You see Jews(and some blacks) having been plotting against Virgin Roach since before he was born. They would have been content to rule the world behind the scenes, but for reasons I can not reveal right now, they now have to keep Virgin Roach in his basement. They pay in Bitcoin and all you have to do is just keep doing what you are doing and mock and laugh at Virgin Roach so he hides in his basement forever. They promise also that the bottom is in and they will pump Bitcoin to 100k.

[realr0ach]

I love Bitcoin.

So much so that you are living in a statue of fanboy-ish delusion.  It's inevitable shitcoiner's will hit the mac truck of reality that the only role an imaginary, valueless, centralized token can fill is that of a 'currency', while they keep trying to shoehorn bitcoin into the role of 'money', where it's completely incapable of competing with physical metals.  An imaginary, valueless token is not a valid form of settlement.  Something of actual value has to be transferred for final settlement to occur.

Tell me something, how is it "imaginary", when even by your claims a few posts back, you made some profit on BTC and then turned it in to silver.
I deary hope your silver is not imaginary.

The basis of human interaction in trade is barter.  I give you some type of object you want for what I want.  Since humans adopted specialization of labor, they started to use an intermediary, Macguffin-like instrument to reduce friction of trade.  There is no guarantee this Macguffin instrument will ever be redeemable for anything of value.  In fact, anything of zero intrinsic value to humans will inevitably return to that exact value and be unredeemable for anything.

This is why Aristotle said the only stable form of money is a commodity currency of intrinsic value (to human civilizations) and why Plato was wrong.  If the Macguffin has no intrinsic value, it's simply a system of faith and faith collapses.  If you're using a real commodity currency, it's value can go up or down, but it's not possible for it to implode to nothingness and bring down the ENTIRE SYSTEM.

There's a lot of stupid fucks on this forum, and they think I'm joking, but the simple fact that humans were led astray off this sustainable path of metals as commodity money might mean when the paper currency collapses, it could cause a dark ages that humans never recover from and everyone goes back to the stone ages.  Or will we go back to metals as money once again with some great upheavel in between.  We'll see.  A fake commodity currency - imaginary, valueless crypto-tokens, are zero difference from fiat paper in the above scenario.  They would implode to zero and cause the same problem.