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[Biodom]

If you do not give birth, aging and death will disappear

Spoken like a bot....

I start to suspect several posters not to be actual typing humans.

I'm a Muscovite, I use a translator

no muscovite calls themself a muscovite.
but, how does it call himself/herself?
if answered in more than 30 sec...

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[El duderino_]

WO's do NOW and do remember ^
they will always come and disappear from this place

[kurious]

I've actually been thinking about how viable a salmon or whatever pond/lake/farm on private property could be. I looked into it but found hardly anything useful beyond a basic confirmation that it's possible. Do you happen to have any idea as to how small scaled fish-farming could be made and how economical/costly it would be or have any reading pointers otherwise? Basically trying to figure out if it's mostly initial fixed costs or if it'll cost a fortune in sustaining. Would love a fucking salmon farm on my property.

I'm not sure salmon, being anadromous, can be reared in ponds, perhaps.

The salmon farms around here occupy valuable estuary areas and are severely infested with some sort of aquatic lice which then attack the young wild salmon as they come down to the salt water.

Same as it ever was.

Yep, spot on.

Personally I have stopped buying farmed fish.  It's not just because of the sea lice, either.  Norwegian salmon farms have severe disease problems which - via imported young - have infected and drastically depleted formerly plentiful Canadian Pacific wild salmon stocks.  If you knew what wild salmon should look like (and I do), you would never buy the farmed mutant version supermarkets sell you as so-called 'sustainably sourced' fish.

There is a fight in Iceland (with good wild Atlantic salmon stocks like those which were once everywhere) to stop farming in areas where wild salmon run. I support this and I do know a little about it.  However, commercial farmed fish is now almost all you can buy if you want to buy 'salmon' in a supermarket in many parts of the west. Most people don't realise what this actaully means - they think fish is just fish and don't care.

It's not just salmon, either.  In Turkey, sea bass are being bred with appalling quality control and dubious growing methods.  Fish that is possibly not chemically fit for human consumption is being fed into the European market - again described as 'sustainable'.

Fish farming is not a simple solution and is woefully unregulated, it is actually decreasing wild stocks and giving us unquestioned production of unhealthy fish in the pursuit of profit.  Plus ça change.  Fish is a great food, but wild stocks are collapsing and human kind will lose yet another food resource that it really needs and could save with better husbandry.

Dismissing all environmental cocerns as 'socialist' and namby pamby shit is puerile and flies in the face of any eruditely researched evidence.  It even affects the food from our once-abundant sustainable envrironment.  We need to look after it, and open our eyes to how big business provides solutions that are actually not solutions at all, but dangerous and unhealthy (if very profitable) alternatives, which reduce the option for a healhier choice by killing it off.

'Be careful what you eat' is not a bad maxim, but fish stock destruction is just a symptom of a wider malaise.  And if that makes me a socialist for just saying I want the right to eat healthy, real natural undoctored food, well...  shoot me?  

I think we are gradually destroying the plants, animals and environment we live in and I cannot respect anyone who considers it is not - at the very least... a problem.

EDIT: spelling

[El duderino_]

do like that toy

[Biodom]

I think we are gradually destroying the plants, animals and environment we live in and I cannot respect anyone who considers it is not - at the very least... a problem.

We (as a whole) are probably doing just that, but what's the solution?
7 bil cannot eat natural food, albeit, one can do it if he/she has enough resources/money.

[jojo69]

7 bil cannot eat natural food

Jordan Peterson recently said "conservatives complain about big government, the left complains about big corporations, government and corporations aren't the problem...BIG is the problem."

[kurious]

I think we are gradually destroying the plants, animals and environment we live in and I cannot respect anyone who considers it is not - at the very least... a problem.

We (as a whole) are probably doing just that, but what's the solution?
7 bil cannot eat natural food, albeit, one can do it if he/she has enough resources/money.

Fair comment.  But I don't think destroying the natural environment entirely while we think about the sulution is the best idea.

Some people are trying to tell us to keep the natural world alive - since we might regret it.  It took millions of years to develop - we won't replace it in a generation easily, science or no science.

I would like to keep that option open. 

[El duderino_]

Pffff
Thought i was going into my HODLpit with a green line up...
Got myself a red b*tch instead ...puking guts right before sleeping
Good night WO’s

[jbreher]

We had an explosion of whizbangery a decade ago. We had not come close to riding that to its natural conclusion before wizards that thought they knew better perverted the system.

Oh well, devs gotta dev.

I thought you were a dev.

Nah he's just a fucking hack.

...aaand such is the level of discourse to which our beloved Torque aspires.

::mwah::

[RoomBot]

Next year can't possibly be worse than this year was for BTC market value, although the blockchain industry is still booming..

Here's to a bullish new year.

Happy old year, Friends.

[Spaceman_Spiff_Original]

I think we are gradually destroying the plants, animals and environment we live in and I cannot respect anyone who considers it is not - at the very least... a problem.

We (as a whole) are probably doing just that, but what's the solution?
7 bil cannot eat natural food, albeit, one can do it if he/she has enough resources/money.

Fair comment.  But I don't think destroying the natural environment entirely while we think about the sulution is the best idea.

Some people are trying to tell us to keep the natural world alive - since we might regret it.  It took millions of years to develop - we won't replace it in a generation easily, science or no science.

I would like to keep that option open. 

Labgrown meat and fish sounds pretty good to me.  No doubt that industry will go through problems of its own as well, but I am guessing it should work out in the end.

[Hueristic]

Btw... There's something fishy here. Can anyone explain the dynamics of what it is being shown in the video? I mean... how can something with such small mass as the stick being thrown make the girl go to the ground? Is it all fake?

I tried to see if it was just a coincidence that she misstepped at the same time, but I don't see it either.

OTOH, the poor way to (NOT) cushion the fall looks VERY real to me.

It's a shovel, not a stick. Getting hit in the head with a shovel will do that to you.

Oh fuck, you're right. For some reason I was only seeing a yellow (assuming wooden or aluminium) stick, now I can see the rest of it lol

Yeah, that explains it all, thanks!

That is brutal and coward btw

Full video https://vimeo.com/94545685 safe to say they are nocoiners rn. Their fathers invested in Silver and it was all downhill after that.

Wow.... the sound when the shovel hits the head  

What was it all about? My spoken english is not very good and the video is too long for me to concentrate listening it. Too many people taking at the same time too.

Lol, stupid redneck sluts fighting over a guy that have the brain capacity of an amoeba between the two of them. And people think we are becoming more intelligent as a species, what a joke.

[Hueristic]

Meanwhile, in Micgoossenland:

yeah r0ach you got a point right there, but in every country there are NON beauty ministers i guess ........

do like micgoossenland, how you say it

Holy shit what a wreck! That is a Minister of HEALTH! You guys are more fucked up than we are!
That fucking fat slob makes me puke just looking at it.

[Syke]

Lol, stupid redneck sluts fighting over a guy that have the brain capacity of an ameba between the two of them. And people think we are becoming more intelligent as a species, what a joke.

The idiocracy effect is real.

[jojo69]

go away

I'm batin'

[xhomerx10]

go away

I'm batin'

 wait... Maggie, the rednecks or all three?

[Hueristic]

Lol, stupid redneck sluts fighting over a guy that have the brain capacity of an ameba between the two of them. And people think we are becoming more intelligent as a species, what a joke.

The idiocracy effect is real.

+1 WO

Lol, I have not seen this but I may have to now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBvIweCIgwk

[nikauforest]

Is anyone running a lightning desktop client? Eclair or LND?

I am wanting to give it a go. I have a machine already running Bitcoin core 17.01 along with Armory watching wallets only. Is it possible to run a lightning node on this same machine? I am guessing yes.

Anyone diggin lightning? Just curious.

[Hueristic]

Is anyone running a lightning desktop client? Eclair or LND?

I am wanting to give it a go. I have a machine already running Bitcoin core 17.01 along with Armory watching wallets only. Is it possible to run a lightning node on this same machine? I am guessing yes.

Anyone diggin lightning? Just curious.

BobBlawlaw was playing with it so maybe pm him?

[nikauforest]

thanks