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[HairyMaclairy]

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Always found the first part of this difficult to understand, while it's all too easy to see the latter part.
Certainly we need better leaders.

The best realise the world is not black and white.  Their caution is taken as prevarication.

[Last of the V8s]

maaaybe also tiny bit bullish
https://www.ccn.com/vaneck-unfazed-by-shutdowns-impact-on-bitcoin-etf-application/
but then looking at the main man's tweet linked from that article https://twitter.com/gaborgurbacs/status/1086676310360027136
back to bearish for me.

[Biodom]

For a potential future societal structure I suggest to read or re-read "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson (first published in 1992).

[jojo69]

For a potential future societal structure I suggest to read or re-read "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson (first published in 1992).

does that mean I get my own nuclear submarine?

[Last of the V8s]

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Always found the first part of this difficult to understand, while it's all too easy to see the latter part.
Certainly we need better leaders.

The best realise the world is not black and white.  Their caution is taken as prevarication.

Typical Foreign Office-type answer there. What are you? ASD?
You lot got us into this mess with your shades of grey crapola. We need someone with balls and clarity to get us out.

[HairyMaclairy]

tune in to Trump? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AcY-9Hglzw

 If the Democrats refuse this deal, I fear we'll legitimately be facing a civil war situation.

 God help us all.

A temporary 3 year deal for Dreamers as a swap for the Wall?  Nah, crappy deal.  

If you want to stop illegal immigration, how about removing the incentives.  Let's make it illegal to employ illegal immigrants.  Prosecute the farmers, cleaning companies and construction companies that employ Mexicans.

Of course, we all know the dirty secret that much of the US economy is propped up by illegal labour.

[HairyMaclairy]

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Always found the first part of this difficult to understand, while it's all too easy to see the latter part.
Certainly we need better leaders.

The best realise the world is not black and white.  Their caution is taken as prevarication.

Typical Foreign Office-type answer there. What are you? ASD?
You lot got us into this mess with your shades of grey crapola. We need someone with balls and clarity to get us out.

No you need someone sensible with long term planning skills.  Someone prepared to invest in the future.  The problem with conservatives is that they aren't conservative enough.  None of them can see more than two election cycles ahead at most.   Most Tory politicans can't see past the end of their own term.  Most conservative voters can't see past this year's tax return.  

That's how you get Brexit as a result of a Tory infight.  

That's how you end up with places like Blackpool that have the lowest life expectancy in the UK, and its actually starting falling further.  

Plenty of us have gotten rich during austerity.  But we are fucking up the country as a result. 

[jojo69]

Last of the V8s will make the trains run on time

[Last of the V8s]

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Always found the first part of this difficult to understand, while it's all too easy to see the latter part.
Certainly we need better leaders.

The best realise the world is not black and white.  Their caution is taken as prevarication.

Typical Foreign Office-type answer there. What are you? ASD?
You lot got us into this mess with your shades of grey crapola. We need someone with balls and clarity to get us out.

No you need someone sensible with long term planning skills.  Someone prepared to invest in the future.  The problem with conservatives is that they aren't conservative enough.  None of them can see more than two election cycles ahead at most.   Most Tory politicans can't see past the end of their own term.  Most conservative voters can't see past this year's tax return. 

That's how you get Brexit as a result of a Tory infight. 

That's how you end up with places like Blackpool that have the lowest life expectancy in the UK, and its actually starting falling further. 

Plenty of us have gotten rich during austerity.  But we are fucking up the country as a result. 

No it's just one of the problems of your democracy. Neither a left nor a right thing, but a lack of anything better thing.

[nikauforest]

For a potential future societal structure I suggest to read or re-read "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson (first published in 1992).

Great book. Could be where we are headed.

[Last of the V8s]

Last of the V8s will make the trains run on time

Sometimes I'm seriously tempted.

[Ibian]

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Always found the first part of this difficult to understand, while it's all too easy to see the latter part.
Certainly we need better leaders.

The best realise the world is not black and white.  Their caution is taken as prevarication.

Dunning-Kruger effect. The less you know the more secure you are in your own omniscience, the more you know the less secure you are. There is a third stage, knowledgeable and secure in your knowledge. But that is extremely rare.

[Ibian]

For a potential future societal structure I suggest to read or re-read "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson (first published in 1992).

Cliffnotes?

[Biodom]

For a potential future societal structure I suggest to read or re-read "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson (first published in 1992).

does that mean I get my own nuclear submarine?

I don't remember a sub, but recall that, perhaps, there was an aircraft carrier, but that's not too relevant.

[HairyMaclairy]

No it's just one of the problems of your democracy. Neither a left nor a right thing, but a lack of anything better thing.

Better things:

1.  Properly funded education system
2.  Properly funded NHS

But that requires the ability to see past the end of your nose.  

[HairyMaclairy]

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Always found the first part of this difficult to understand, while it's all too easy to see the latter part.
Certainly we need better leaders.

The best realise the world is not black and white.  Their caution is taken as prevarication.

Dunning-Kruger effect. The less you know the more secure you are in your own omniscience, the more you know the less secure you are. There is a third stage, knowledgeable and secure in your knowledge. But that is extremely rare.

Exhibit 1:  FoxNews

Watching Only Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5?r=US&IR=T

[Ibian]

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Always found the first part of this difficult to understand, while it's all too easy to see the latter part.
Certainly we need better leaders.

The best realise the world is not black and white.  Their caution is taken as prevarication.

Dunning-Kruger effect. The less you know the more secure you are in your own omniscience, the more you know the less secure you are. There is a third stage, knowledgeable and secure in your knowledge. But that is extremely rare.

Exhibit 1:  FoxNews

Watching Only Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5?r=US&IR=T

Indeed, exhibit the one. Notice how they never say where the study is from in their links or headlines. There is a reason for that.

[Ibian]

No it's just one of the problems of your democracy. Neither a left nor a right thing, but a lack of anything better thing.

Better things:

1.  Properly funded education system
2.  Properly funded NHS

But that requires the ability to see past the end of your nose.  

There is no money for that. Pay for your own shit.

[Biodom]

For a potential future societal structure I suggest to read or re-read "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson (first published in 1992).

Cliffnotes?

too complex, predicted 'electronic currency', 'virtual reality', etc, etc.
one particular prediction is privatization of government functions, with sovereign enclaves forming, mostly based on economies and not policies.
A very much decentralized world with all possible pluses and minuses.