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Question: Where will this rally top out?
Already topped <$7,000 - 19 (25.3%)
$7,000-$7,499 - 6 (8%)
$7,500-$7,999 - 8 (10.7%)
$8,000-$8,499 - 4 (5.3%)
$8,500-$8,999 - 5 (6.7%)
$9,000-$9,499 - 1 (1.3%)
$9,500-$9,999 - 0 (0%)
$10K+ - 32 (42.7%)
Total Voters: 75

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August 04, 2019, 03:35:46 PM

incoming pump! 10980!
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August 04, 2019, 03:39:46 PM

incoming pump! 10980!

20k incoming!!!
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August 04, 2019, 03:56:45 PM

happy 11k (again)!!!!
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August 04, 2019, 03:58:26 PM

Godbye 4digits  Cry
Frankly, I feel sorry to all this guys waiting for sub 9K. Last seconds to join the train. Grin
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August 04, 2019, 04:02:10 PM

Good morn Bitcoinland.
Eleven thousand greenbacks.
Five figures are good.
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August 04, 2019, 04:04:14 PM

happy 11k (again)!!!!

Hello eleven.
Sun-temp rises, price follows...
New correlation?
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August 04, 2019, 04:17:32 PM
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Godbye 4digits  Cry
Frankly, I feel sorry to all this guys waiting for sub 9K. Last seconds to join the train. Grin
Bullet train is waiting there,buy your tickets soon or you won't reach your destination in near future.

$50K is on the way. Cheesy (seems too much)
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August 04, 2019, 04:25:00 PM

"How do we stop humans from hurting each other?" is the naive question, plus the solution is simple - restrict everyone's freedom to the point it becomes physically impossible.
A more nuanced question would be "how do we prevent humans from wanting to hurt each other?"

https://twitter.com/lopp/status/1158037245204619264?s=20
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August 04, 2019, 04:28:03 PM

I'd like to see any of these shitcoin lovers that come and grace this thread, answer this one question:

If Bitcoin functions securely, has the most and widest user/broker/exchange/merchant/miner support, and does everything it needs to do for both e-commerce transactions and SoV, why look elsewhere for anything else?

If you can't answer honestly without throwing in " 'cause speculation reasons", then you are full of shit. Because outside of that, trying to get rich on a flyer or something, you'd have no valid reason.
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August 04, 2019, 04:28:27 PM

Sunday sobered up.
Bitcoin looks good as always.
Fast food here I come....
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August 04, 2019, 04:31:30 PM

Yeah, I much prefer incremental steps. I’m not in the mood for unsustainable pumps because we all know what happens after them.

I love unsustainable pumps. Make $ on the way up, corn on the way down. Yummy.

nobody can do it on sustainable basis as it does not tell you where it will go.
sooner or later, you would lose.

For some value of 'lose' that has nothing to do with my personal situation.

Can you elaborate, jbreher? 

I personally believe that with laddering, there is hardly any ways to lose unless you are setting your amounts wrong or if the BTC price goes down.  How else can anyone lose?   Unless you are measuring on a shorter-timeline perhaps and you need the money right away... for example when BTC's price is going down...

I mean if you were to have a 5-year timeline, let's say, and you did not need your invested money for 5 years, then wouldn't it be much more difficult to conceive ways that you could lose with laddering, unless the price of the BTC were lower at the end of the 5 years. 

Of course, you could also conceive that any time that you are buying BTC, that if you give those BTC at least 5 years before you again sell them (even while exercising a laddering type approach), then it is difficult to conceive of ways that you would lose in that system either, unless at any point in time 5 years after any buy that you make, the BTC price is lower than it was 5 years earlier. 
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August 04, 2019, 04:38:29 PM

Happy speculation, I will probably check in after another 3 years.

For you, 3 years might even be too frequently - even though it can be good to get an update from known personalities from time to time.

Someone asked me how come an OG like me is into altcoins.........

Self assigned status.... lovely.  One of your ongoing tone problems.


don't be stuck in that echo chamber of maximalism, be a minimalist on maximalism because it is becoming a cult.

Unsolicited advice is going to get you a long way.

Ask yourself what is the goal behind your involvement in this space, then be agnostic about it.

This, here, unsolicited advice might be a bit more pragmatic, which is to try NOT to get too emotional about your finances.  In other words, if you structure your finances in a certain kind of way that protects you from price movements in either direction, then it is less likely that you will get emotional when the price goes a bit beyond your expectations, because it is also good to protect yourself emotionally (and financially) for extremes, too.
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August 04, 2019, 04:56:41 PM

People tend to forget just how speculative bitcoin really is. Sure it has been around over ten years but it is still a grand experiment and experiments fail sometimes. I tend to think in 5 years bitcoin will be either be worth more than $50,000 or zero. If Wall Street can make money from it that is a powerful force to keep bitcoin alive. Sure it is decentralized but governments can shut down the on and off ramps like Coinbase if they decide bitcoin is a real threat to fiat. Or regulate them to the point price crashes.
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August 04, 2019, 04:57:33 PM

Godbye 4digits  Cry
Frankly, I feel sorry to all this guys waiting for sub 9K. Last seconds to join the train. Grin

JSRAW?   Can you confirm this assertion?    If JSRAW does not confirm, I cannot put much higher odds than 50% that we will never see 4 digits again.

Of course, the lower you go, the less probable... So yeah there have been quite a few people looking for below $9k, and jesus, we were already at $9,049 which would have been about a 35% correction from our $13,880 local top.  Why the fuck expect more than that?  Yeah, sure a larger correction can happen and it still can happen, but it becomes a bit more difficult to happen when the gap is becoming BIGGER in the UP direction rather than approaching those various hopium buy points that are sub $9k and even going below $5k.. maybe, maybe, but I would not be putting too much expectations in the "necessity" of those kinds of down plays.
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August 04, 2019, 04:58:33 PM

How long do I need to watch it for?

you'll know

I do feel fitter.

I imagined all sorts of exercises.

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August 04, 2019, 05:00:19 PM

I suspect the domestic terror threats of the next decade will be incel shitcoiners (every coin but Bitcoin) killing innocent nocoiners for not adopting their shitcoin.

Bitcoiners wont be affected bc of the ability to afford the best security sound money can buy.

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August 04, 2019, 05:04:35 PM

I'd like to see any of these shitcoin lovers that come and grace this thread, answer this one question:

If Bitcoin functions securely, has the most and widest user/broker/exchange/merchant/miner support, and does everything it needs to do for both e-commerce transactions and SoV, why look elsewhere for anything else?

If you can't answer honestly without throwing in " 'cause speculation reasons", then you are full of shit. Because outside of that, trying to get rich on a flyer or something, you'd have no valid reason.
BTC isn't ideal for small/fast transactions and has proven to be conservative as far as making changes to address such problems.  Waiting around a random amount of time from a few minutes to much longer for a single confirmation is awkward and confusing in a world where most things are nearly instantaneous.  I feel like that at least leaves the door open a bit.
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August 04, 2019, 05:12:16 PM

People tend to forget just how speculative bitcoin really is. Sure it has been around over ten years but it is still a grand experiment and experiments fail sometimes. I tend to think in 5 years bitcoin will be either be worth more than $50,000 or zero. If Wall Street can make money from it that is a powerful force to keep bitcoin alive. Sure it is decentralized but governments can shut down the on and off ramps like Coinbase if they decide bitcoin is a real threat to fiat. Or regulate them to the point price crashes.

First you seem to be giving way too much probability to the possibility of zero in such a short period of time.  Of course, some governments could start shutting down on ramps, but how the fuck you going to get all governments to cooperate in that direction?  Governments do no necessarily agree with each other, and you think that they are going to agree with any figure head like The donald?  Furthermore, even if there were a more likeable and agreeable figure, there is still likely going to be localism battles that are not going to necessarily go along with the shutting down bitcoin theme that you imagine to be possible in the next 5 years.

Regarding your point about bitcoin being highly speculative, this has been my point all along about why it seems to be NOT necessary to diversify too much into other coins.  Bitcoin is already risky, and the other coins largely just follow bitcoin, and if bitcoin were either to go to zero or get pummelled down into a lot lower market cap (in other words more underground), then it would be difficult to imagine a world in which other coins would still be able to prosper in such a system in which bitcoin is not able to.. .because it seems that so far bitcoin is the only one that really has any kind of degree of decentralized secure mining that would be sufficiently resilient to really back up potential grandiose attacks, were they to occur in any kind of systematic way from BIG players such as governments.
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August 04, 2019, 05:19:28 PM

I'd like to see any of these shitcoin lovers that come and grace this thread, answer this one question:

If Bitcoin functions securely, has the most and widest user/broker/exchange/merchant/miner support, and does everything it needs to do for both e-commerce transactions and SoV, why look elsewhere for anything else?

If you can't answer honestly without throwing in " 'cause speculation reasons", then you are full of shit. Because outside of that, trying to get rich on a flyer or something, you'd have no valid reason.


Horrible privacy, Horrible scaling at the first layer, unreliable for microtransactions...etc, and now toxic community that has cult-like features.

Beam is everything that Bitcoin is not that is why I say it is not a zero-sum game.

Also, ain't no one telling me about how is the code is great, I worked for a company that basically made shitcoins for other companies (private blockchains), it is so much insulting to hear about how much talent Bitcoin devs have, other industries have thousands of better-talented people that you can't even start comparing.. I cringe so hard every time I hear this especially because most of the time it comes from noobs who have no idea.
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