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December 11, 2019, 10:01:31 AM

Yes ....in time
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December 11, 2019, 10:04:40 AM

It goes faster when we tape them on a wall.....
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December 11, 2019, 10:35:03 AM
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The hat theme persists!  I need to hurry.
 Then MicG makes another hat post

 
 
maybe Kucoin has their own vested intenrest in feeding the tether fud. 
 

 Precisely.  It's all whale games.
 
 Give this man a new hat. 
 

 wich one, i got a few hat's.
 
 

This hat idea was obviously meant to be.  I had found the hat to use and was looking for a larger sized image of a monkey tossing darts.
 

@xhomerx10, you have made an awesome piece of Wall Observer history and written it down very nice, also great extend by VB1001 with his site and better keeping track of the HAT's as I was doing Roll Eyes





Here a few other HAT's and the HAT I have chosen for this day accompanied by some cool socks of my mate Grin
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December 11, 2019, 10:43:15 AM

I hope BMB is doing OK  Undecided

Really hope so.

I was never quite sure if he REALLY had sold all or most of his BTC at around $3K-$4K. I really hope he didn't or that he rebought soon after before the big bounce.

You can’t save everybody from selling at the wrong time. There will be many who get out all or too much of their stash at the wrong time.

This is the WO, home to hardened HODLERS, sell at your own peril.

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December 11, 2019, 10:58:21 AM
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I hope BMB is doing OK  Undecided

Really hope so.

I was never quite sure if he REALLY had sold all or most of his BTC at around $3K-$4K. I really hope he didn't or that he rebought soon after before the big bounce.

You can’t save everybody from selling at the wrong time. There will be many who get out all or too much of their stash at the wrong time.

This is the WO, home to hardened HODLERS, sell at your own peril.



This morning at the gym, DAMN that guy, I knew it from the second I saw him....

Short story when the price was around 6K after ATH, hoovering that boring period, I met someone at our gym and start talking about crypto and he was very excited meeting someone that knows a bit what they talking about, of-course not me but I refer him to my friend and told him about his fund, this guy was interested but never did enter (my friend told me he was a bit shady and was more looking to money laundering etc from his business ...)
But at the gym he was like not buying or whatever and every time talking like BTC is going down further cause he read the news and there is no support and we will not see 8-9K anymore aaaaaaand this guy was knowing about BTC for a month or 2 (previous he was a guy thought octa coin was the shizzle) Roll Eyes
But of-course we went 5K--->4K---->Bottom, and it was like I always saw him in the gym and he always was like Eeeeuhm how is that BTC doing, I don't follow it anymore, is it still good for you?? ? And I was always optimistic and told him yes its a bit lower but I still love my idea and why i'm involved etc
Then the spike UP and he never asked me again till 13K he never asked me again, this morning LoL .... He was like Eeeeuhm Mic? You still busy with this BTC ? I said of-course I had an accident lost them all, but i'm more confident as ever and hope to rebuild what I had and the complete story of BTC= the exact same for me, nothing changed....

But those guys that always asked but know better then anyone the price is dipping  Roll Eyes (At 13K I wasn't bother, I didn't run to him like are you watching... I left him alone if he didn't asked me, BUT guess whats Mic gonna do when we break ATH and when we hit 6-dig, then I wil remind those guys) about what they missed by being F*** lazy and ignorant .... I will be there and remind them
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December 11, 2019, 11:08:12 AM

I like this chico guy.

Can't get it outta my head, could it be that Chico=Lambie?
Certainly full of it. Grin

JJG, analysis.
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December 11, 2019, 11:14:02 AM
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mic, these NOCOINER haters ALWAYS know what the price is. They ask like, ‘how’s bitcoin doing’. They know because they always look. They’re so jealous & worried about what will/could happen with the price that they look even when they don’t own any.

My gf’s family are exactly the same. They sometimes have a little dig (nasty comment) when the price is not doing good. The thing is I’m not much of an asshole but I should be. I should say ‘bitcoin is doing fine actually, I could buy all of your houses without a mortgage right now with my bitcoin’s’.

I will wait until it’s six figures per bitcoin & start handing out sats to them like I do when I give change to homeless people in my town when I shop.

In life there are so many jealous, bitter people. It’s easy to tell who they are. The one’s who can’t help but drop a hateful comment here & there. It helps them forget about how shit their own lives are. There are plenty of people like that here - r0ach, The-One-Above-All etc.
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December 11, 2019, 12:23:22 PM

Unexpectedly, despite a ROI 4 times higher than S&P500 since the beginning of the year, the Sharpe ratio of BTC is only a little bit lower than the S&P500 one.
It means BTC isn't disproportionately risky for such a ROI.



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The Sharpe ratio was developed by Nobel laureate William F. Sharpe and is used to help investors understand the return of an investment compared to its risk. The ratio is the average return earned in excess of the risk-free rate per unit of volatility or total risk.
Subtracting the risk-free rate from the mean return allows an investor to better isolate the profits associated with risk-taking activities. Generally, the greater the value of the Sharpe ratio, the more attractive the risk-adjusted return.​
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/sharperatio.asp   
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December 11, 2019, 12:28:46 PM

Do you know what happens on the eleventh and 12th year? I could only find for the 1-10 year cycle.

Assuming it is a cycle, repeat 1 to 10 for the 20 year cycle?

https://www.quora.com/What-is-W-D-Gann-time-cycle-its-application-in-stock-market

Yeah. After ten years, it does it a-Gann. Hence the name.

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December 11, 2019, 12:43:01 PM

Fiat hitting exchange in 3, 2, 1...  Grin

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December 11, 2019, 12:48:27 PM
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Unexpectedly, despite an ROI 4 times higher than S&P500 since the beginning of the year, the Sharpe ratio of BTC is only a little bit lower than the S&P500 one.
It means BTC isn't disproportionately risky for such an ROI.



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The Sharpe ratio was developed by Nobel laureate William F. Sharpe and is used to help investors understand the return of an investment compared to its risk. The ratio is the average return earned in excess of the risk-free rate per unit of volatility or total risk.
Subtracting the risk-free rate from the mean return allows an investor to better isolate the profits associated with risk-taking activities. Generally, the greater the value of the Sharpe ratio, the more attractive the risk-adjusted return.​
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/sharperatio.asp   

Thanks for the information but I'm still wondering how a lot of people comment about making losses through their bitcoin investment and i guess that happens through their impatient habit.
With that been said, the above picture stated December 31, 2018, and there's a chance for the price of each market to dump before it the last day of this year.
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December 11, 2019, 12:53:57 PM

I like the approach with Elliot Waves, particularly I like to use them when Bitcoin is in the bullish trend stage ...

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December 11, 2019, 01:01:48 PM
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Unexpectedly, despite a ROI 4 times higher than S&P500 since the beginning of the year, the Sharpe ratio of BTC is only a little bit lower than the S&P500 one.
It means BTC isn't disproportionately risky for such a ROI.



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The Sharpe ratio was developed by Nobel laureate William F. Sharpe and is used to help investors understand the return of an investment compared to its risk. The ratio is the average return earned in excess of the risk-free rate per unit of volatility or total risk.
Subtracting the risk-free rate from the mean return allows an investor to better isolate the profits associated with risk-taking activities. Generally, the greater the value of the Sharpe ratio, the more attractive the risk-adjusted return.​
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/sharperatio.asp   


Only if you accept volatility as a proxy for risk. I take issue with that assumption.
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December 11, 2019, 01:12:32 PM

I think i found something interesting. Bitcoin 15th dec is very important. At least it was very important in 2017 and 2018! What happened on that day? On 15th dec 2017 bitcoin made ATH almost 20k. On the 15th dec 2018 it bottomed at 3k. Could 15th dec 2019 have reversal again?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208757.msg53318853#msg53318853
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December 11, 2019, 01:15:26 PM

I think i found something interesting. Bitcoin 15th dec is very important. At least it was very important in 2017 and 2018! What happened on that day? On 15th dec 2017 bitcoin made ATH almost 20k. On the 15th dec 2018 it bottomed at 3k. Could 15th dec 2019 have reversal again?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208757.msg53318853#msg53318853

I dunno, we were at the peak of an epic bullish rise in December 2017. We were at the absolute, depressing low of the last bear market in December 2018.

It seems December 2019 is like neither of the above, just an accumulation phase. The halving is in May 2020, the current situation is probably more similar to December 2015 or December 2016 (i.e. nothing-ness).
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December 11, 2019, 01:21:11 PM

I think i found something interesting. Bitcoin 15th dec is very important. At least it was very important in 2017 and 2018! What happened on that day? On 15th dec 2017 bitcoin made ATH almost 20k. On the 15th dec 2018 it bottomed at 3k. Could 15th dec 2019 have reversal again?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208757.msg53318853#msg53318853

I dunno, we were at the peak of an epic bullish rise in December 2017. We were at the absolute, depressing low of the last bear market in December 2018.

It seems December 2019 is like neither of the above, just an accumulation phase. The halving is in May 2020, the current situation is probably more similar to December 2015 or December 2016 (i.e. nothing-ness).
Allright then! ACcording to Gann theory the 22th December is very important. Maybe some whales who are rich AF do know this or they just buy or trade before this 22th dec date. 2017 and 2018 december were not the only bottoms. It's 2013 the bottom (flash crash) and in 2016 it was before the pump.
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December 11, 2019, 01:32:41 PM

Only if you accept volatility as a proxy for risk. I take issue with that assumption.
How do you evaluate the risk then?
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December 11, 2019, 01:38:38 PM

I hope BMB is doing OK  Undecided

place just isn't the same without him
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December 11, 2019, 01:46:23 PM

But the real question is: Who's painting the tape while we observe the wall?
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