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Know i should have stocked up on Toilet paper, now out of stock. Opportunity of a lifetime missed, damn it.

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[bitbollo]

I will continue to speculate, thank you. Big pharma doesn't have peoples best interest in mind, only money. That's why vaccine manufacturers are exempt from liability since 1986. They treat symptoms only, that's good for business.

Yeah of course you can speculate since it's free and it's pretty clear this is not your field ....
Likewise I can speculate about quantistic physic but no one can take seriously my speculations since it's not my field...
So yes continue, but we are talking about health and other SERIOUS STUFF and there are some peoples that are unable to understand what is true and what is not https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-chloroquine-self-medication-kills-man.html and as a Pharmacist I can't accept this.

About "they treat symptoms", as I have already said it's very HARD and A LONG PROCESS before a new drug can be developed... so please stop conspiracy if we not die at 30years old like ancient romans (I am proudly ITALIAN not only a proud man of science ) you should say a big thank you to innovations created by "Big Pharma". Make a research about Lymphoma or other cruel diseases... you will be shocked about how many lives have been saved.

As every sector there are also here some dishonest people but this is not a justification for  attack a whole industry and their innovations.
About money, I don't know what is your job, but people working on this industry are humans, should pay bills, buying foods, they invested a lot of money in university  etc etc.....

[Bitcoinaire]

I will continue to speculate, thank you. Big pharma doesn't have peoples best interest in mind, only money. That's why vaccine manufacturers are exempt from liability since 1986. They treat symptoms only, that's good for business.

Yeah of course you can speculate since it's free and it's pretty clear this is not your field ....
Likewise I can speculate about quantistic physic but no one can take seriously my speculations since it's not my field...
So yes continue, but we are talking about health and other SERIOUS STUFF and there are some peoples that are unable to understand what is true and what is not https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-chloroquine-self-medication-kills-man.html and as a Pharmacist I can't accept this.

About "they treat symptoms", as I have already said it's very HARD and A LONG PROCESS before a new drug can be developed... so please stop conspiracy if we not die at 30years old like ancient romans (I am proudly ITALIAN not only a proud man of science ) you should say a big thank you to innovations created by "Big Pharma". Make a research about Lymphoma or other cruel diseases... you will be shocked about how many lives have been saved.

As every sector there are also here some dishonest people but this is not a justification for  attack a whole industry and their innovations.
About money, I don't know what is your job, but people working on this industry are humans, should pay bills, buying foods, they invested a lot of money in university  etc etc.....

FACT: The man and wife took a FISH TANK AQUARIUM CLEANER not a prescription dose of pills.

[mindrust]

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-chloroquine-self-medication-kills-man.html

LoL that link again.

It is pretty much impossible to kill yourself with only one hydroxychloroquine pill. Who knows how many and which way they took it.

[Last of the V8s]

I spent pretty much all day putting this together. If you're not well versed in who Bruno is, then I suggest giving this a look over, bud. It's more or less a Greatest Hits-type compilation of his threads opened as Phinnaeus Gage. Gleb Gamow to come next.

The Bruno Kucinskas Trilogy - Part I: Phinnaeus Gage

Bravo! That is a super thread. Thanks so much. He's a super chap and deserves a super biography.

[bitbollo]

I will continue to speculate, thank you. Big pharma doesn't have peoples best interest in mind, only money. That's why vaccine manufacturers are exempt from liability since 1986. They treat symptoms only, that's good for business.

Yeah of course you can speculate since it's free and it's pretty clear this is not your field ....
Likewise I can speculate about quantistic physic but no one can take seriously my speculations since it's not my field...
So yes continue, but we are talking about health and other SERIOUS STUFF and there are some peoples that are unable to understand what is true and what is not https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-chloroquine-self-medication-kills-man.html and as a Pharmacist I can't accept this.

About "they treat symptoms", as I have already said it's very HARD and A LONG PROCESS before a new drug can be developed... so please stop conspiracy if we not die at 30years old like ancient romans (I am proudly ITALIAN not only a proud man of science ) you should say a big thank you to innovations created by "Big Pharma". Make a research about Lymphoma or other cruel diseases... you will be shocked about how many lives have been saved.

As every sector there are also here some dishonest people but this is not a justification for  attack a whole industry and their innovations.
About money, I don't know what is your job, but people working on this industry are humans, should pay bills, buying foods, they invested a lot of money in university  etc etc.....

FACT: The man and wife took a FISH TANK AQUARIUM CLEANER not a prescription dose of pills.

Thanks for confirmation . This is what I am saying ! These are SERIOUS STUFF and we can't spread fake info since not all people are able to understand how medicine works!

I can't understand how you can judge a treatment is really working without having any minimal pharmacological or medicine background!
Seriously speaking, you have no information about evaluation of clinical trials, or why A it's better then B, but thank for providing your (useless) opinion .

Big pharma bla bla bla bla (conspiracy) bla bla bla no sorry, it's enough please you haven't take a look of my explanation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5232377.msg54066125#msg54066125 regarding this treatment and the data they published.

I don't want waste more time in such bad manner! Regards

[bitserve]

2) Due to limit reserves and the point above, doctors are only using it at their own discretion (each hospital protocols) and only for patients that are already showing VERY bad pneumony. TOO LATE. It should be used at the early stage of infection (or even as a preventative measure) to slow rate of reproduction of the virus so that the inmune system can catch up.

That is...

2) Doctors don't know it or they are too stupid.

Scarcity. There are not enough for treating everyone.

[Indymoney]

April Fools'.

Get ready, theymos will come with something tomorrow LOL

We have first casualty of this April fool as someone call an old person about his younger brother as he rush to check him he lost his life by heart attack really feeling sad as its never been good idea to do like this.

[bitserve]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/29/fda-emergency-authorization-anti-malaria-drug-155095

Hydroxychloroquine with Azithromycin works. They keep censoring Tucker Carlson, Bolonsaro etc who talk about Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin. Big pharma wants everyone to wait for their vaccine so they can make billions of dollars.

I want to believe this. I really do but if this combination is really effective against covid... why are so many still dying? I don't think there is a shortage of these old drugs.

There are few possibilities:

1) It doesn't work.

2) Doctors don't know it or they are too stupid.

3) Doctors are killing people knowingly by not using them. (Big pharma conspiracy)

Yes there is shortage. Yes, it seems to work, there is enough evidence to support it does.

Problem here is:

1) Even if there is enough evidence that it does work, those are not "officially" vetoed.
2) Due to limit reserves and the point above, doctors are only using it at their own discretion (each hospital protocols) and only for patients that are already showing VERY bad pneumony. TOO LATE. It should be used at the early stage of infection (or even as a preventative measure) to slow rate of reproduction of the virus so that the inmune system can catch up.

This is correct. Hydroxychloroquine is not the magic bullet but it does have a good success rate in at least one study but it should be given early. It has side effects that can be dangerous so should not be taken prophylactically. Use Vitamin C and chelated Zinc to boost your immune response.

In a ideal world, we should be giving hidroxicloroquine as a profylactic to health workers that are greatly exposed to the virus and also to everyone in the early stages of the infection. But... Not only we don't test people until they show clear symptoms of difficulty of breathing (noone is being tested otherwise, due to lack of tests) but even then, there is not enough supplies for all positives.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

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Bruno's final exit scam.  Help him.

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Credit the great homer 😀

[bitbollo]

In a ideal world, we should be giving hidroxicloroquine as a profylactic to health workers that are greatly exposed to the virus and also to everyone in the early stages of the infection. But... Not only we don't test people until they show clear symptoms of difficulty of breathing (noone is being tested otherwise, due to lack of tests) but even then, there is not enough supplies for all positives.

We don't have enough information about real efficacy of that product... first of all (and in ideal word this is enough)

Why are you saying (very confident, like an FDA official ) that this should be used as a PROFYLACTIC.... when actually has been tested only for people infected and not for PROFYLACTIC usage?

Why are you giving your useless opinion about drugs and treatment?
There are not evidence of what are you saying... Seriously...this is science is not "In your honest opinion" is not only totally worthless is also DANGEROUS!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5232377.msg54066125#msg54066125

[bitserve]

In a ideal world, we should be giving hidroxicloroquine as a profylactic to health workers that are greatly exposed to the virus and also to everyone in the early stages of the infection. But... Not only we don't test people until they show clear symptoms of difficulty of breathing (noone is being tested otherwise, due to lack of tests) but even then, there is not enough supplies for all positives.

We don't have enough information about real efficacy of that product... first of all (and in ideal word this is enough)

Why are you saying (very confident, like an FDA official ) that this should be used as a PROFYLACTIC.... when actually has been tested only for people infected and not for PROFYLACTIC usage?

Why are you giving your useless opinion about drugs and treatment?
There are not evidence of what are you saying... Seriously...this is science is not "In your honest opinion" is not only totally worthless is also DANGEROUS!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5232377.msg54066125#msg54066125

Yes, it is my honest opinion based on available data. I guess you are also giving your honest opinion, and that is fine. I would encourage you to improve your research, at least in relation of your strong statement about "having only been tested for people infected and not for profylactic usage" though. Also, when I say profilactic/preventive I mean it can help stop slow the reproduction of the virus once infected not that it can prevent infection but as you can never know when you are going to be exposed/infected maybe, just maybe, it makes sense to use it preventively in case of people with a very high risk (health workers with not enough PPE) or suspect of infection.

I have never said that there were conclusive and much less an officially vetoed stance about it.
 
Also, please check the very own thread you just posted and the comments about the graph you posted. I do agree with most of them. Not because I know better... But just because those comments and findings are coherent to most other "somewhat" reliable sources I have checked.

That being said, the best thing to do at this time is to avoid getting exposed to the virus and wait till it is safe outside and hospitals are not overwhelmed so that you can receive proper treatment. I guess we can at least strongly agree on that.

P.S.: If I were infected... I would like to have hydroxycloroquine treatment given to me AS EARLY as possible if given the choice. But hey, that's just me and until we KNOW BETTER.

[Raja_MBZ]

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[mindrust]

Tbh I heard doctors saying both that it has a prophylactic use and not.

In a time like this where 2 doctors can suggest the exact opposite of something you can't really say that science is the way.

If 2 doctors can be different than each other like it is black and white I think everybody can have his/her opinion on the matter because we are all like headless chickens right now.

Just don't swallow more than 1 pill in a week and you should be fine. (as a prophylactic)

*I actually have a proof that the health workers are using hydroxychloroquine as prophylactic. It is directly from a local hospital here. (maybe they don't know what they are doing too. that's also possible)

[strawbs]

Quarterly candle close coming soon. The next three and a half hours are critical.

I'm giving you a merit solely for not trying to give the impression that you know anything at all about how to treat viruses

[LUCKMCFLY]

Interesting fact

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Source: https://twitter.com/unchainedcap/status/1245057902932627456

[Raja_MBZ]

Quarterly candle close coming soon. The next three and a half hours are critical.

I'm giving you a merit solely for not trying to give the impression that you know anything at all about how to treat viruses

I think strawberries can play a big role in curing COVID19.

[bitserve]

Tbh I heard doctors saying both that it has a prophylactic use and not.

In a time like this where 2 doctors can suggest the exact opposite of something you can't really say that science is the way.

If 2 doctors can be different than each other like it is black and white I think everybody can have his/her opinion on the matter because we are all like headless chickens right now.

Just don't swallow more than 1 pill in a week and you should be fine. (as a prophylactic)

*I actually have a proof that the health workers are using hydroxychloroquine as prophylactic. It is directly from a local hospital here. (maybe they don't know what they are doing too. that's also possible)

Maybe "prophylactic" is not the right word to use... but when you can't know if you have already been infected because lack of testing and symptoms in the early stage and you only know you have been clearly exposed (like most health workers currently have been) it makes some sense to use it. I guess the health workers you know are using it on their own as a preventative measure... or has it been approved by protocols or directives on that particular hospital?

[mindrust]

I guess the health workers you know are using it on their own as a preventative measure... or has it been approved by protocols or directives on that particular hospital?

I only know one hospital but it is possible that there are others. I just don't know about the others, yet.

[Last of the V8s]

Are we mixing up the words 'prophylactic' and 'suppository'?
I mean, it's fine, just tying to keep up.