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April 10, 2020, 07:21:29 PM

Kids mostly need to learn reading and writing and math, maybe some basic physics and tack on a bit of chemistry if there are resources for it. Most of the rest is just there for political reasons. And if you can't teach your own kids those most basics of basics then... guess you need to go back to school yourself? Parent your kids.

The only problem with closing down schools is socializing with their friends, but that's only a problem if the other parents are not taking their own appropriate measures. Which some won't, in which case your kids avoid being exposed to bad influences.

The primary objection is simply this: parents who don't want to be around their own kids. Nothing we can do about that.

Actually the biggest problem with closing down schools and using only home schooling is social development.

Sure, the 3 Rs and history are better taught at home and avoiding government propaganda and political "correctness" is a good thing, but it's easy for children to get indoctrinated in the culture of their parents to the point of not being aware of the diversity outside their families.

They have to learn and see first-hand how other people live and think.

Cultural inbreeding is not a good thing.
Counterpoint: The west is turning ever-more communistic and propaganda is on the rise.
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April 10, 2020, 07:22:34 PM

Bitcoin price fell from 7400 to 6900 USD... if we immediatelly don't go higher, it could be much worse... according to charts, next few hours are critical for the future of Bitcoin...  Cheesy
Well I do not mind even below $2k LOL and I am serious about it!

1BTC = 1BTC

Mindrust used to talk like that before he went off the reservation.

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OMG...


a sign that BitcoinGirl.Club might not be well.   Shocked Shocked

A non believer, or someone that doesn’t really believe bitcoin fundamentals... will always have a breaking point, where is JJG’s one ? Or are you a true bitcoiner??  Tongue Tongue

People selling BTC will regret later when the money printing hits them in the face
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... looks like the Swedish experiment in "herd immunity" is working out as well as could be expected. Socialists really are the dumbest fucks.

https://wuflu.live/sweden/

Bodies on ice in Stockhom ice-rink

It's not very black and white... I mean Belgium (similar population) has 3000+ dead and is has extensive measures for 3-4 weeks compared to Sweden's 850 dead... meanwhile Belarus (similar population to Belgium and Sweden) has no measures in place, they haven't even stopped their sport activities and crowd gatherings and yet they have only 19 dead Huh
Officially. Gotta keep that in mind. Even with the strictest of standards, there will always be guesswork involved and some countries just flat out do not care so have less numbers to work with.
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April 10, 2020, 07:26:59 PM

I've driven a Yugo once. It helps to work out many parts of the body.
Can a Lambo do that? Fuck no.

I've heard a lambo can help a man work out his most interesting parts, though.

Hey I've heard Lambo's can suck, but that's another level altogether. Tongue

I was thinking more of an indirect relationship.
Like diamonds, you know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c82z_bxy60E
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April 10, 2020, 07:36:09 PM

I've driven a Yugo once. It helps to work out many parts of the body.
Can a Lambo do that? Fuck no.

I've heard a lambo can help a man work out his most interesting parts, though.

I never knew a Lambo could help work out my brain...
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April 10, 2020, 07:51:43 PM

I was thinking more of an indirect relationship.
Like diamonds, you know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c82z_bxy60E

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April 10, 2020, 07:55:19 PM
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lots going on here

Here's a good article about the Cantillon effect, which talks about why this new money supply overwhelmingly benefits those at the top...
https://mattstoller.substack.com/p/the-cantillon-effect-why-wall-street
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In 2016, Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen gave an important speech on this topic. It turns out, she said, that who the Fed deals with matters. To paraphrase her speech, the bigger and powerful get money first, and the small and weak get money last. That’s the dynamic we’re seeing in this bailout, with small businesses and the unemployed having trouble accessing funds and the big guys getting what they need when they need it.
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Well if you don't file a tax return you can still get free money. (in USA)
Man, can you imagine all the homeless drug addicted folks and the like getting their hands on a free $1200?
I foresee a wave of new fentanyl ods on the horizon...
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I can smell the honey from here
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April 10, 2020, 08:09:33 PM

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/12/6/05-1468-f1


anyone made a decent mask yet? it's only been a few months.
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April 10, 2020, 08:17:48 PM

If you aren't totally burned out on the COVID19 BS... this is a REALLY great video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGC5sGdz4kg

This guy is fucking decent.
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I can smell the honey from here

With a free $1200...20 years ago I'd be like "woo hoo ... free bindles!"
Today I'm like "woo-hoo! free bitcoin!"
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anyone made a decent mask yet? it's only been a few months.



https://www.etsy.com/listing/270114900/ninja-mask-3-pc-set-black-goggles-and
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April 10, 2020, 08:26:44 PM

I don't frequently go to a Ford forum telling people why my VW is better, and arguing about it, even if I also owned a Ford. Because I would be considered a troll (by definition) on that forum. And the Ford mod would tell me to either shut up about VWs or be banned.

You would annoy a lot of people, no doubt. But that wouldn't make you a troll, by definition. Especially if your point is just "I own both Ford and VW and I like them both". That sure would freak people out, but that's just an opinion, not trolling.
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April 10, 2020, 08:29:09 PM

Bitcoin continues to consolidate in the $6.9k range with more buying opportunities possible on the horizon.  Steady as she goes folks.

1h


Price discovery will continue in the weeks ahead as the market tries to orientate itself post-pandemic...expect volatility.

4h


This is the chart to pay attention to imho. Still plenty of time left this month to figure it out. #dyor
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April 10, 2020, 08:34:24 PM

Bitcoin price fell from 7400 to 6900 USD... if we immediatelly don't go higher, it could be much worse... according to charts, next few hours are critical for the future of Bitcoin...  Cheesy
Well I do not mind even below $2k LOL and I am serious about it!

1BTC = 1BTC

Mindrust used to talk like that before he went off the reservation.

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a sign that BitcoinGirl.Club might not be well.   Shocked Shocked

A non believer, or someone that doesn’t really believe bitcoin fundamentals... will always have a breaking point, where is JJG’s one ? Or are you a true bitcoiner??  Tongue Tongue

I don't consider the matter in terms of fitting in some kind of a religious category or some determination of will

If I conclude that there is a need to sell my bitcoin and then invest into something else, then I would do that.

There do not seem to be any other better investments, so there is that.

However, having said all of that, there still are needs to tailor any investment to your own circumstances including considering your cashflow, your other investments, your views about bitcoin as compared with other investments, your risk tolerance, your timeline and your time and skills available to research and manage your holdings including trading and tweaking from time to time.

So, yes, it is good to feel comfortable in your skin and comfortable with how you have allocated your resources in order that you feel psychologically and financially prepared for the movement of the market in either direction.

The most recent dump on March 12 tested the resolution of a decent number of bitcoiners, but also tested the resolution in a variety of other markets and surely many people are continuing  to assess the holdings that they have in a variety of assets including questioning whether anything should be done during times of traditional markets seeming to be experiencing a kind of dead cat bounce, and whether gold might be a good investment.. and yes, there are many people questioning what to do with their bitcoin holdings too.

Around March 15/16, I made a few tweaks in my BTC strategy that largely allow me to feel comfortable NOT injecting any new money into bitcoin unless the price appears to be testing $3,850, and then I probably will send some fiat to various exchanges. I also have pretty comfortable buy orders that go all the way down to $3k, so I really would not have to employ any extra fiat unless the BTC price were to break below $3k.  I have not set up those sub-$3k BTC buy orders yet, so I am hoping that I will NOT need to set them up.

Tentatively, if I end up having to move fiat to exchanges because BTC prices are testing $3,850, I would likely set all my then available fiat to BTC buy prices between $1,500 and $3k, so I would probably run out of buying money around $1,500 unless the price were to persist at that level.  I would have to consider whether I would inject any more at that level or just let my already existing investment ride.

Regarding selling any BTC below $5k, I doubt that I would or that I would need to, and $5k is my current threshold in which I have already authorized myself to be able to sell above that price if I were ever to feel that I am transitioning into a withdrawal status.  Currently, I am largely in a maintenance status, but I suppose I might convert into an accumulation status if prices were to go below $1,500... I am not sure yet, because BTC price is both a matter of quantity and a matter of time, so I personally believe that if extremes are going to happen, many of us can only attempt to prepare for a kind of range or a kind of outline regarding what we expect to do, which helps us to prepare for a large number of possibilities, but we should still retain some sufficient amount of autonomy and discretion to intervene if we believe that the circumstances deserve a change of course or if we believe that we have to tweak our already chosen course of action based on how matters end up playing out in terms of both degree and time.


People selling BTC will regret later when the money printing hits them in the face

Of course, money printer go bbbbrrrrr seems to justify front loading on BTC.. and even erring on the side of overinvesting into BTC.  Most likely I have been erring on the side of overinvesting into BTC for years (since about early 2015), and current circumstances, including ongoing strong BTC fundamentals and even the nonsense with the money printer go bbbbrrrr practices seems to cause more confidence in the raison d'être of BTC and it's likely decently strong place in current times.
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April 10, 2020, 08:37:37 PM

The west is turning ever-more communistic and propaganda is on the rise.

American propaganda is long established... George Washington chopped down a cherry tree but owned up 'cause he couldn't tell a lie, so by extension you should always believe what the POTUS (or any other politician) tells you... America single-handedly won WW2 so let's glorify the military-industrial complex with marching parades at football games... and on and on.

Remember, the communists (left wing) learned propaganda from the fascists (right wing).

You have to teach your kids not to trust any of it.
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An alternative approach:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/denmark-freezing-its-economy-should-us/608533/

Very drastic, but people don't need to degrade themselves by calling the unemployment office 400 times, like was seen in Texas and Florida lately.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/economy/article/Texas-unemployment-agency-plagued-by-tech-issues-15191189.php
https://www.kxan.com/investigations/kxan-investigation-uncovers-new-twc-hurdles-to-unemployment-checks/

BTW that should tell you that the last 6mil number is probably skewed lower by this.
In many ways US is quite nice, mind you, but this...
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