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[El duderino_]

3 years ago: crashed to $1830.

3 years ago : jumped to nearly 20K

[1714768086]

1714768086

[hv_]

3 years ago: crashed to $1830.

3 years ago : jumped to nearly 20K

Funny extrapolating through 2 points - that's how you trick noobs into ?

Who can predict in a speculative game ?

 

Dont invest into things you dont understand

[OutOfMemory]

I'm thinking August... probably August, yeah.

You got that covid19 dip included in the resistance line...
one might reconsider?

EDIT: I also didn't take bottom 2017 into account, so these are two very different perspectives. We met the last bottom alerady and it's way higher than 2017.
Twitter is all about bullish breakout "soon", so probably the king will tank "soon". who really knows?

[goldkingcoiner]

3 years ago: crashed to $1830.

3 years ago : jumped to nearly 20K

Funny extrapolating through 2 points - that's how you trick noobs into ?

Who can predict in a speculative game ?

 

Dont invest into things you dont understand

Big words from a shitcoin promoter who has negative trust ratings for promoting Bitcoin Cash and for illegally giving fake legal/tax advice. GTFO of our thread.

[Indymoney]

3 years ago: crashed to $1830.

3 years ago : jumped to nearly 20K

After 3 years we will 200K 

[serveria.com]

It's happening? One last down before UP? 

[somac.]

It's happening? One last down before UP? 

We've had a lot of these last downs, they're starting to wear me out.

[Last of the V8s]

It's happening? One last down before UP? 

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[machasm]

It's happening? One last down before UP? 

We've had a lot of these last downs, they're starting to wear me out.

Are here going to be getting yet another visit from Vegeta again?
I am pretty sick and tired of him at this point.
Still, some movement, even down, has got to be better than this long sideways action.
Fingers crossed that the big move up is imminent.
Got a retirement to be looking forward to soon.
Go Honey Badger Go.

[Last of the V8s]

And in other ATH's:

https://twitter.com/LJKawa/status/1283568477102645248

While the biggest loser from today's massive hack was Twitter, the biggest winner was bitcoin and crypto in general. LunarCRUSH - which leverages artificial intelligence and machine learning to analyze cryptocurrency-focused social trends, search behaviors, internet chatter - compiled some data points regarding the Twitter hack. Here’s the interesting data (source: Twitter, Reddit, YouTube, Medium, all News...basically the internet) they found:

For the first time ever, there have been over 550,000 social posts about crypto within 24 hours. This number excludes spam and bots.
At 3 PM PDT today, for the first time ever there were over 100,000 unique individuals on social media posting about / mentioning Bitcoin.
Out of all cryptocurrency-related social posts in the last 24 hours, Bitcoin’s share of all those posts went as high as 94.48%.
This event has had a little-to-no effect so far for Bitcoin’s price, but TWTR is down in after-hours trading.
Despite this potentially being looked at as a negative event, the negative event was really Twitter. The outcome was all-time high awareness across a much broader set of individuals that have never mentioned Bitcoin before.

-really not that many
-it's a start, a bump, a filip
-maybe a storm in a teacup
-waiting to find out what the White House makes of it
-but perhaps they did it themselves?

https://twitter.com/HackingDave/status/1283565211958509568

So. You have this level of access, you write a ton of automation scripting for it, and you send a lame mass bitcoin campaign.

Could have easily sold  this access for millions.

Something isn’t adding up here and smells like a much larger campaign masked as something else.

anyway, someone gets it:

https://twitter.com/RepTomEmmer/status/1283560177489379330

Bitcoin isn't the problem. Centralized control is.

[BlackHatCoiner]

If you notice it, in almost every August price crushes.

[JayJuanGee]

jbreher likes to pump them up too, I wonder why that is?    He might want to chime his picnic bear ass into the mix, as well.    

He tends to support centralization and trusted third partys for some unknown reason.
Makes me wonder sometimes why he supports bitcoin?

Examples would be helpful in buttressing your claim.

You support Coinbase and BSV, do I really need to add anything more than that?

Yes, you do. Coinbase as opposed to what? Binance? BitFinex?

BSV as opposed to what? BTC? From a fundamental analysis they are exactly as centralized as each other.

Kraken and Gemini

In what manner are Kraken or Gemini more decentralized than Coinbase?

Why do BSvers always try to redefine the definition of decentralization? Are there no arguments you can come up with that don't require redefining meaning of words?

What the fuck are you babbling about now? As you seem to be accusing me of redefining 'decentralization', perhaps you might be so kind as to provide me with your personal definition thereof.

Umm the decentralized part was referring to BTC vs your scamcoin, and not the exchanges. The exchanges were suggested as alternatives to Coinbase, seems like everyone got that part except for you.

Still waiting for your:
1) explanation of how Coinbase suffers more as being a trusted third party than is Kraken or Gemini; and
2) personal definition of 'decentralization', so we may continue this discussion in a rational manner.

Wow.   Maybe we should have a poll on the topic jbreher?

Knock yourself out, though I don't see the relevance.

You summoned me indicating I like to 'support' coinbase.
Hueristic suggested it is because i like centralization and trusted third parties.
I pointed out that Hueristic's assertion was without merit.
Hueristic doubled down by conflating BSV with Coinbase.
I asked for an elaboration, as all exchanges are by definition centralized third parties, and that the BTC and BCH protocols are exactly as centralized as each other.
DaRude butted in in his/her typical clueless manner with 1) 'Kraken and Gemini', seemingly utterly ignorant of the fact that both these are also centralized trusted third parties; and 2) piled on implying I was changing the definition of decentralization.
I responded 1) asking how Kraken or Gemini are less centralized than Coinbase; and 2) asked for his/her definition of 'decentralization'.
DaRude then totally whiffed an answer, addressing neither of the points in discussion.
I responded pointing out that DaRude has addressed exactly zero of the points in discussion.
And full circle, you wade back in with irrelevancy about some poll.

That about sum it up? Yup, shore duz.

So after all that, to the point of you summoning me: yes, for my purposes, Coinbase is the proper exchange for me. Yes, it is a centralized trusted third party. AS IS EVERY FUCKING OTHER EXCHANGE.

As to the other topic somehow conflated in with the other. Yes, I understand that a good lot of you ascribe to the dogma that lotsa lotsa non-mining fully-validating clients equates to MOAR DECENTRALIZATION. Regardless of the relative amount of decentralization on any of a large number of other axes. And that lotsa lotsa minus one means that the entire system is in peril. You are of course wrong on both counts, but I get that all y'all think so. My point here is not to argue about that. It is to point out that your measure of centralization has fuck-all to do with any technical aspect of the coin/chain/client/code. It merely reflects the preferences of the market at this point in time, which is nothing more than the individual personal preferences of scads of individuals within the marketplace at this point in time.

Y'all are acting high and mighty about a state that is not due to anything fundamental, but rather due to collective whimsy.

So now that ONCE AGAIN, I have been incrementally goaded into stating my position AGAIN, lest idiots be allowed to put words in my mouth, are ya happy?

Didn't think so.

You did not need to restate your nonsense spin position, again.  You could have just sat back and said nothing.

Your whole rendition makes little sense, and I had already read some of the responses that your as spinning to be the bad guys.

In sum, no one seems to be disingenuous here, except you, in terms of attempting to have genuine conversations about the topic of decentralization or making comparisons between exchanges. 

So, on the topic of exchanges, you are trying to suggest all exchanges are equally fucked up, when that is not true.  Kraken and Gemini have not been accused of engaging in anything close to the same level of shenanigans as Coinbase... whether you deceptively attempt to reframe that as a question of level of centralization or decentralization or not.

And, on the topic of comparing bitcoin and the various bcashes, largely your favorite shitcoin BSV, the overwhelming majority of members participating in this thread already know that Bsv (or bcash sv) is a flaming bundle of scams, and since you ongoingly support such scam project, you ongoingly engage in attempts to equate it to bitcoin in various ways.  Sure you might mislead and deceive a few newbies, so the various responses to your ongoing nonsense is not to convince your ongoingly scheming, twisting and deceiving ass, but instead perhaps to help some newbies from getting overly mislead by your ongoing nonsensical assertions whether you are making coin comparisons or exchange comparisons, in this particular example... or your historical BIG block support nonsense.. which continues to be one of your beloved shitcoin BSV talking points.

[Last of the V8s]

In wallet balls of spaghetti code, Samourai fail to own up to their mistake, one made by blockchain .info way back  

https://medium.com/samourai-wallet/investigating-address-reuse-within-post-mix-spend-transactions-44b0647dee65

https://medium.com/@thepiratewhocantbenamed/samourai-wallet-address-reuse-bug-1d64d311983d

'bug' my arse

still, an excellent report by this monkey fella

[AlcoHoDL]

Vegetarian menu tonight...

[hv_]

3 years ago: crashed to $1830.

3 years ago : jumped to nearly 20K

Funny extrapolating through 2 points - that's how you trick noobs into ?

Who can predict in a speculative game ?

 

Dont invest into things you dont understand

Big words from a shitcoin promoter who has negative trust ratings for promoting Bitcoin Cash and for illegally giving fake legal/tax advice. GTFO of our thread.

Incorrect

I promote to do own research on BitCoin

But I didn't expect you to get that first place

 

[akhjob]

Somebody who hacked the most important social platform in the world only wants Bitcoin not shitcoins.

No way someone that could gain that type of access was only scamming BTC. Is this a cover for something much bigger?

Oh well, free advertising is always nice i guess.

Ofcourse, this is a very big advertisement for BTCitcoin. But, I'm afraid that it might throw more negativity towards it  


Just for fun.
https://twitter.com/Cryptanzee/status/1283538246635380736

I don't see this throwing negativity over BTC , do people say $ is shit when someone robs a bank?    It is a free advertisement as stated above, things are happening around BTC and this shows at what lenghts people are willing to go to get more BTC. If anything that shows how powerful and valued BTC is

Twitter will take the flak for this one as they should.

https://en.ethereumworldnews.com/twitter-hack-coverage-by-mainstream-media-is-hurting-bitcoin-btc/

Now you understand why I said that? Mainstream media has always been against Bitcoin because they clearly don't understand what it does.

No media will talk about how Bitcoin is used as money in El Salvador but they'll have a few shows stating that Bitcoin is using by hackers and criminals.

[hv_]

jbreher likes to pump them up too, I wonder why that is?    He might want to chime his picnic bear ass into the mix, as well.    

He tends to support centralization and trusted third partys for some unknown reason.
Makes me wonder sometimes why he supports bitcoin?

Examples would be helpful in buttressing your claim.

You support Coinbase and BSV, do I really need to add anything more than that?

Yes, you do. Coinbase as opposed to what? Binance? BitFinex?

BSV as opposed to what? BTC? From a fundamental analysis they are exactly as centralized as each other.

Kraken and Gemini

In what manner are Kraken or Gemini more decentralized than Coinbase?

Why do BSvers always try to redefine the definition of decentralization? Are there no arguments you can come up with that don't require redefining meaning of words?

What the fuck are you babbling about now? As you seem to be accusing me of redefining 'decentralization', perhaps you might be so kind as to provide me with your personal definition thereof.

Umm the decentralized part was referring to BTC vs your scamcoin, and not the exchanges. The exchanges were suggested as alternatives to Coinbase, seems like everyone got that part except for you.

Still waiting for your:
1) explanation of how Coinbase suffers more as being a trusted third party than is Kraken or Gemini; and
2) personal definition of 'decentralization', so we may continue this discussion in a rational manner.

Wow.   Maybe we should have a poll on the topic jbreher?

Knock yourself out, though I don't see the relevance.

You summoned me indicating I like to 'support' coinbase.
Hueristic suggested it is because i like centralization and trusted third parties.
I pointed out that Hueristic's assertion was without merit.
Hueristic doubled down by conflating BSV with Coinbase.
I asked for an elaboration, as all exchanges are by definition centralized third parties, and that the BTC and BCH protocols are exactly as centralized as each other.
DaRude butted in in his/her typical clueless manner with 1) 'Kraken and Gemini', seemingly utterly ignorant of the fact that both these are also centralized trusted third parties; and 2) piled on implying I was changing the definition of decentralization.
I responded 1) asking how Kraken or Gemini are less centralized than Coinbase; and 2) asked for his/her definition of 'decentralization'.
DaRude then totally whiffed an answer, addressing neither of the points in discussion.
I responded pointing out that DaRude has addressed exactly zero of the points in discussion.
And full circle, you wade back in with irrelevancy about some poll.

That about sum it up? Yup, shore duz.

So after all that, to the point of you summoning me: yes, for my purposes, Coinbase is the proper exchange for me. Yes, it is a centralized trusted third party. AS IS EVERY FUCKING OTHER EXCHANGE.

As to the other topic somehow conflated in with the other. Yes, I understand that a good lot of you ascribe to the dogma that lotsa lotsa non-mining fully-validating clients equates to MOAR DECENTRALIZATION. Regardless of the relative amount of decentralization on any of a large number of other axes. And that lotsa lotsa minus one means that the entire system is in peril. You are of course wrong on both counts, but I get that all y'all think so. My point here is not to argue about that. It is to point out that your measure of centralization has fuck-all to do with any technical aspect of the coin/chain/client/code. It merely reflects the preferences of the market at this point in time, which is nothing more than the individual personal preferences of scads of individuals within the marketplace at this point in time.

Y'all are acting high and mighty about a state that is not due to anything fundamental, but rather due to collective whimsy.

So now that ONCE AGAIN, I have been incrementally goaded into stating my position AGAIN, lest idiots be allowed to put words in my mouth, are ya happy?

Didn't think so.

You did not need to restate your nonsense spin position, again.  You could have just sat back and said nothing.

Your whole rendition makes little sense, and I had already read some of the responses that your as spinning to be the bad guys.

In sum, no one seems to be disingenuous here, except you, in terms of attempting to have genuine conversations about the topic of decentralization or making comparisons between exchanges. 

So, on the topic of exchanges, you are trying to suggest all exchanges are equally fucked up, when that is not true.  Kraken and Gemini have not been accused of engaging in anything close to the same level of shenanigans as Coinbase... whether you deceptively attempt to reframe that as a question of level of centralization or decentralization or not.

And, on the topic of comparing bitcoin and the various bcashes, largely your favorite shitcoin BSV, the overwhelming majority of members participating in this thread already know that Bsv (or bcash sv) is a flaming bundle of scams, and since you ongoingly support such scam project, you ongoingly engage in attempts to equate it to bitcoin in various ways.  Sure you might mislead and deceive a few newbies, so the various responses to your ongoing nonsense is not to convince your ongoingly scheming, twisting and deceiving ass, but instead perhaps to help some newbies from getting overly mislead by your ongoing nonsensical assertions whether you are making coin comparisons or exchange comparisons, in this particular example... or your historical BIG block support nonsense.. which continues to be one of your beloved shitcoin BSV talking points.

.. so there is no way just to solve such with big blogs - never

only with BIG BLOCKS

 

[Phil_S]

You got that covid19 dip included in the resistance line...
one might reconsider?

Yeah, you probbaly right...

Real resistance seems to be around 9000...

[serveria.com]

Fake dump gentlemen 

[Indymoney]

Fake dump gentlemen 

No worries will end with real rise.