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ok. let's value it against hectares of prime arable? not many other finite resources out there.
Americans be like, WTF is a hectar?
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What a farce. Just as the US is opening 7 elevens, pharmacies and almost any other to place to facilitate bitcoin buying as well as ATMs all over the place, you get Germany taking a step backwards. Don't they know that the Honey badger will not be defeated. German chancellor infamous comment about the internet: Das ist Neuland für uns. * I guess in Germany we have to be thankful they didn‘t outright declare the web being illegal. * „that’s uncharted territory for us.“ You are not alone, in sweden we had a minister saying "internet is just a fad".
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What a farce. Just as the US is opening 7 elevens, pharmacies and almost any other to place to facilitate bitcoin buying as well as ATMs all over the place, you get Germany taking a step backwards. Don't they know that the Honey badger will not be defeated. German chancellor infamous comment about the internet: Das ist Neuland für uns. * I guess in Germany we have to be thankful they didn‘t outright declare the web being illegal. * „that’s uncharted territory for us.“ You are not alone, in sweden we had a minister saying "internet is just a fad". What is more shocking about Sweden is that there's a website where you can see how much your neighbor earns, things he owns, how much is his house worth etc... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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August 07, 2020, 10:42:29 AM Last edit: August 07, 2020, 10:58:15 AM by Arriemoller |
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A little clarification. You can see what is in public record, IE tax returns, deeds, the car registry, etc. Anything given to any authority, and it has been like that since 1766. It's called offentlighetsprincipen (kind of like the freedom of information act but just a lot wider). So yes, you can see your neighboors, or anybodys, income, and you can see what he paid for his house, current value would have to be a estimation of course. But you can not see the things he owns, that is of course not on public record. The background for this is the incredible corruption in Sweden back then. By making everything public you couldn't hide behind the secrecy stamp and corruption was curbed. It's still in effect today for the same reason. Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_public_access_to_official_recordshttps://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96ffentlichkeitsprinzip_(Schweden) Ffs, German link doesn't work. Here's the text from Wikipedia "Offentlighetsprincipen (das Öffentlichkeitsprinzip) ist in Schweden das Recht, bei Behörden und Ämtern in alle Akten und Dokumente Einsicht nehmen zu können. Dieses Recht ist seit 1766 in der Verfassung verankert und wird von vielen Schweden als unersetzlich für die Demokratie angesehen. In Schweden soll die gesamte staatliche und kommunale Tätigkeit im Lichte der Öffentlichkeit erfolgen. Die Bestimmungen zu diesem sehr alten Grundsatz der Öffentlichkeit stehen auch heute in der Verfassung, d. h. im Gesetz über die Pressefreiheit (Tryckfrihetsförordningen). Der Grundsatz der Öffentlichkeit soll eine allgemeine Einsichtnahme durch die Mitbürger gewährleisten. Dies bedeutet, dass alle in einer Behörde vorhandenen Akten und Dokumente – einschließlich Bandaufnahmen und in Computer gespeicherte Daten – für die Allgemeinheit zugänglich sind. Offenheit ist hierbei die Grundregel, Geheimhaltung die Ausnahme. Es muss demnach immer eine gesetzliche Begründung vorliegen, wenn die Herausgabe von Informationen oder Unterlagen durch eine Behörde verweigert wird. Auch ist es den Behörden untersagt, Nachforschungen über die Identität des anfragenden Bürgers anzustellen oder nach Gründen für die Einsichtnahme zu fragen. Ausgenommen davon sind Dokumente, die teilweiser Geheimhaltung unterliegen und bei denen die Gründe für eine Prüfung des Rechts der Einsichtnahme entscheidend sind. Es gibt auch Dokumente, die prinzipiell der Geheimhaltung unterliegen; dazu gehören z. B. Krankenakten."
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August 07, 2020, 12:26:52 PM |
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Wow, just observing German text makes you scared even without understanding it!
I wonder how it would feel to date a German woman. I guess each culture has its own characteristics, and the same could be said about any other nation. To me, this language feels too "cold" and "rough"...
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August 07, 2020, 12:35:58 PM |
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Wow, just observing German text makes you scared even without understanding it!
I wonder how it would feel to date a German woman. I guess each culture has its own characteristics, and the same could be said about any other nation. To me, this language feels too "cold" and "rough"...
https://youtu.be/_05TC-EMVus?t=61What a farce. Just as the US is opening 7 elevens, pharmacies and almost any other to place to facilitate bitcoin buying as well as ATMs all over the place, you get Germany taking a step backwards. Don't they know that the Honey badger will not be defeated. German chancellor infamous comment about the internet: Das ist Neuland für uns. * I guess in Germany we have to be thankful they didn‘t outright declare the web being illegal. * „that’s uncharted territory for us.“ You are not alone, in sweden we had a minister saying "internet is just a fad". Wer beim illegal streamen erwischt wird, bekommt auch Briefchen vom Anwalt... Vor ein paar Jahren war alles ganz anders. Jetzt haben die Politiker nichts besseres zu tun, da sie endlich das Internet für sich entdeckt haben. Wie lange dauert es wohl bis sie VPNs verbieten?
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August 07, 2020, 12:47:09 PM |
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A little clarification. You can see what is in public record, IE tax returns, deeds, the car registry, etc. Anything given to any authority, and it has been like that since 1766. It's called offentlighetsprincipen (kind of like the freedom of information act but just a lot wider). So yes, you can see your neighboors, or anybodys, income, and you can see what he paid for his house, current value would have to be a estimation of course. But you can not see the things he owns, that is of course not on public record. The background for this is the incredible corruption in Sweden back then. By making everything public you couldn't hide behind the secrecy stamp and corruption was curbed. It's still in effect today for the same reason. Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_public_access_to_official_recordshttps://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96ffentlichkeitsprinzip_(Schweden) Ffs, German link doesn't work. Here's the text from Wikipedia "Offentlighetsprincipen (das Öffentlichkeitsprinzip) ist in Schweden das Recht, bei Behörden und Ämtern in alle Akten und Dokumente Einsicht nehmen zu können. Dieses Recht ist seit 1766 in der Verfassung verankert und wird von vielen Schweden als unersetzlich für die Demokratie angesehen. In Schweden soll die gesamte staatliche und kommunale Tätigkeit im Lichte der Öffentlichkeit erfolgen. Die Bestimmungen zu diesem sehr alten Grundsatz der Öffentlichkeit stehen auch heute in der Verfassung, d. h. im Gesetz über die Pressefreiheit (Tryckfrihetsförordningen). Der Grundsatz der Öffentlichkeit soll eine allgemeine Einsichtnahme durch die Mitbürger gewährleisten. Dies bedeutet, dass alle in einer Behörde vorhandenen Akten und Dokumente – einschließlich Bandaufnahmen und in Computer gespeicherte Daten – für die Allgemeinheit zugänglich sind. Offenheit ist hierbei die Grundregel, Geheimhaltung die Ausnahme. Es muss demnach immer eine gesetzliche Begründung vorliegen, wenn die Herausgabe von Informationen oder Unterlagen durch eine Behörde verweigert wird. Auch ist es den Behörden untersagt, Nachforschungen über die Identität des anfragenden Bürgers anzustellen oder nach Gründen für die Einsichtnahme zu fragen. Ausgenommen davon sind Dokumente, die teilweiser Geheimhaltung unterliegen und bei denen die Gründe für eine Prüfung des Rechts der Einsichtnahme entscheidend sind. Es gibt auch Dokumente, die prinzipiell der Geheimhaltung unterliegen; dazu gehören z. B. Krankenakten." Sounds you already run the open ledger - the Sweden-Blockchain for many years now ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Not a big change than Viel Spass! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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August 07, 2020, 12:59:20 PM |
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ok. let's value it against hectares of prime arable? not many other finite resources out there.
Let's value Bitcoin BTC against Gold ounces. I don't think there will ever be a better comparison since all fiat monies are dead horses. I have XE currency on my phone and I am starting to follow BTC vs XAU since a while. addendum https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=XBT&to=XAU&view=10Y
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August 07, 2020, 01:04:24 PM |
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^^^
Wow, just observing German text makes you scared even without understanding it!
I wonder how it would feel to date a German woman. I guess each culture has its own characteristics, and the same could be said about any other nation. To me, this language feels too "cold" and "rough"...
I kind of like German, it sounds precis and exact, I like that. Their emphasis on titles is a bit too much though, They actually write all their titles out, like if you have two doctor titles and one professor title they will actually write "Herr professor, doktor, doktor Arminius Bitcoiner".
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August 07, 2020, 01:09:22 PM |
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^^^
Wow, just observing German text makes you scared even without understanding it!
I wonder how it would feel to date a German woman. I guess each culture has its own characteristics, and the same could be said about any other nation. To me, this language feels too "cold" and "rough"...
https://youtu.be/_05TC-EMVus?t=61What a farce. Just as the US is opening 7 elevens, pharmacies and almost any other to place to facilitate bitcoin buying as well as ATMs all over the place, you get Germany taking a step backwards. Don't they know that the Honey badger will not be defeated. German chancellor infamous comment about the internet: Das ist Neuland für uns. * I guess in Germany we have to be thankful they didn‘t outright declare the web being illegal. * „that’s uncharted territory for us.“ You are not alone, in sweden we had a minister saying "internet is just a fad". Wer beim illegal streamen erwischt wird, bekommt auch Briefchen vom Anwalt... Vor ein paar Jahren war alles ganz anders. Jetzt haben die Politiker nichts besseres zu tun, da sie endlich das Internet für sich entdeckt haben. Wie lange dauert es wohl bis sie VPNs verbieten? Use a VPN.
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August 07, 2020, 01:22:46 PM |
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ok. let's value it against hectares of prime arable? not many other finite resources out there.
Let's value Bitcoin BTC against Gold ounces. I don't think there will ever be a better comparison since all fiat monies are dead horses. I have XE currency on my phone and I am starting to follow BTC vs XAU since a while. addendum https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=XBT&to=XAU&view=10YOnce the physical existence of bitcoin increases and with the price keep rising, sooner or later we will have them carried in stack along with gold and get them deposited in the safe vault. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2SptekR.png&t=665&c=7Dwb8rJpTfLIgA)
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August 07, 2020, 01:35:29 PM Last edit: August 07, 2020, 01:47:42 PM by philipma1957 |
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ok. let's value it against hectares of prime arable? not many other finite resources out there.
Americans be like, WTF is a hectar? It belongs in usa measurement system [as does all metric numbers] they should know. As an American that had a revolution against the UK.back ing 1776 how the fuck is it we are the only country still using a dead British king's arm length to measure land? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yard... William of Malmesbury's Deeds of the Kings of England records that during the reign of Henry I "the measure of his arm was applied to correct the false ell of the traders and enjoined on all throughout England."[14] The folktale that the length was bounded by the king's nose[15] was added some centuries later. Watson dismisses William's account as "childish"[16] but William was among the most conscientious and trustworthy medieval historians.[17] The French "king's foot" was supposed to have derived from Charlemagne,[17] and the English kings subsequently repeatedly intervened to impose shorter units with the aim of increasing tax revenue. The earliest surviving definition of this form of the ell appears in the Act on the Composition of Yards and Perches, one of the statutes of uncertain date[n 3] tentatively dated to the reign of Edward I or II c. 1300. Its wording varies in surviving accounts. One reads:[19] ... So a yard is 3 feet a mile is 5280 feet. etc. For the life of me WTF is America doing being the country using this. When we left in 1776 as a fuck you to Henry the 8th. yet we still follow Henry the 1 arms length. to this day. meanwhile as a doge multi millionaire it ticked up a bit chasing it master BTC like a good little doggie. BTC. $11742 Doge $0.00355831. x 2,000,000 = 7116 franklins. I got to 2,000,000 at $0.00233 so 4660 has turned into 7116 Doge is how I can hodl my btc which is slowly growing for me.
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August 07, 2020, 01:47:07 PM |
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ok. let's value it against hectares of prime arable? not many other finite resources out there.
Let's value Bitcoin BTC against Gold ounces. I don't think there will ever be a better comparison since all fiat monies are dead horses. I have XE currency on my phone and I am starting to follow BTC vs XAU since a while. addendum https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=XBT&to=XAU&view=10YOnce the physical existence of bitcoin increases and with the price keep rising, sooner or later we will have them carried in stack along with gold and get them deposited in the safe vault. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) A ledger nano s with 50000 BTC is way heavier than a bank's vault for sure! And we are talking of a "USB stick" with an unimaginable size of wealth hidden inside!
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August 07, 2020, 01:54:55 PM |
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ok. let's value it against hectares of prime arable? not many other finite resources out there.
Americans be like, WTF is a hectar? It belongs in usa measurement system [as does all metric numbers] they should know. As an American that had a revolution against the UK.back ing 1776 how the fuck is it we are the only country still using a dead British king's arm length to measure land? We still use both metric and imperial in the uk
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August 07, 2020, 02:02:16 PM |
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^^^
Wow, just observing German text makes you scared even without understanding it!
I wonder how it would feel to date a German woman. I guess each culture has its own characteristics, and the same could be said about any other nation. To me, this language feels too "cold" and "rough"...
I dated a young german gal when I lived in Germany. Those are the only ones you want to date. When they get older they are only good for watching out the front window to stare at anyone walking down the street.
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German IS scary and weird. le papillion ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) la mariposa ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) the butterfly ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) DER SCHMETTERLING ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) enough of this sheit.
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August 07, 2020, 02:18:43 PM |
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German IS scary and weird. le papillion ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) la mariposa ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) the butterfly ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) DER SCHMETTERLING ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) enough of this sheit. Tja.
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August 07, 2020, 02:20:56 PM |
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Roller coaster time?
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August 07, 2020, 02:22:38 PM |
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Germany taking a step backwards. Don't they know that the Honey badger will not be defeated.
Germany has been cucked by leftists beyond any rational measure. As far as I'm concerned, they are well on their way towards becoming a failed state within the next decade, at their current rate of decline. Very sad to see Germany falling prey to the pitfalls of modern social justice initiatives. I sincerely hope they lose Merkel, and regain a sense of national pride. Thanks, Soros.
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