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You believe that his hero status (or might we say legend status) removes some of his ideas from being criticized? Furthermore, when I said that "saylor can go fuck himself" did you not consider that some of the intention of my comment might have been directed at Dabs for idolizing what someone said?
I do not idolize what someone says, just merely repeating what someone says and that he is the one who said it to lend credence to whatever he said. So I don't have to say it myself (even if it's something that I could agree with.) I read a few other articles about UPpitty going all the way to $50 million to $100 million per coin, and all logic (or no logic maybe) points to a similar conclusion long term. As a few others have mentioned, Bitcoin can not be killed at this point without killing the internet. I mean, the damn Pirate Bay is still alive today serving torrents of the latest giant monster movies or what.
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I keep receiving dust amounts of BTC in my cold wallet. They're for 0.00000547 BTC each, and come every other month or so. I remember reading here that they are used by some entities (who are they?) to 'mark' our wallets and track the movement of our coins.
I read that these small amounts can be marked as "do not spend", so they are not moved together with our own coins. I believe Electrum can do it. But what about Trezor? Is there a way to do this in Trezor?
Any comments, info, pointers, are appreciated. Is this something serious enough to be concerned about?
It's called a Dust Attack. Read more about it here: https://www.gemini.com/cryptopedia/crypto-dusting-attack-bitcoinI would rather not move them out together with my funds than risk. Dust attacks could be an attempt to track you down ... If you start getting lots of dust attacks, or if you constantly get dust in one particular address, I would "dispose" of that address. The way to do this is to create a new wallet from scratch, new seeds, new everything, and move your coins one address at a time to your new wallet. If you already use an exchange, you can use them as a sort of "mixer", or if not, find a way to break the link (coinjoin, wasabi, dice? hehe.) I thought about that, but it's a lot of work, for something that can happen again in the new wallet. My cold wallet is now very securely backed up and I'll have to redo everything if I change wallets. I might do it at some point, but right now it's just too much work. I think I'll wait for SatoshiLabs to add Coin Control to Trezor Wallet ( thanks 20kevin20), and then mark all of the attack dust as "do not spend". Will see how this works out and take it from there.
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I keep receiving dust amounts of BTC in my cold wallet. They're for 0.00000547 BTC each, and come every other month or so. I remember reading here that they are used by some entities (who are they?) to 'mark' our wallets and track the movement of our coins.
I read that these small amounts can be marked as "do not spend", so they are not moved together with our own coins. I believe Electrum can do it. But what about Trezor? Is there a way to do this in Trezor?
Any comments, info, pointers, are appreciated. Is this something serious enough to be concerned about?
It's called a Dust Attack. Read more about it here: https://www.gemini.com/cryptopedia/crypto-dusting-attack-bitcoin[...] Edit: Trezor will have Coin Control added to the Suite by mid-May AFAIK. Ledger already has this option. Good article, thanks. Answered all my questions perfectly. Merited. Looking forward to SatoshiLabs adding Coin Control to Trezor Wallet. Not in a hurry to spend my coins anyway, and when I start using them, it will be very low amounts, like a monthly refill to my fiat wallet, to cover various monthly expenses. I can't Imagine myself ever selling more that 0.1 BTC in one go, and this amount decreases as BTC/USD value increases.
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I thought about that, but it's a lot of work, for something that can happen again in the new wallet. My cold wallet is now very securely backed up and I'll have to redo everything if I change wallets. I might do it at some point, but right now it's just too much work. I think I'll wait for SatoshiLabs to add Coin Control to Trezor Wallet ( thanks 20kevin20), and then mark all of the attack dust as "do not spend". Will see how this works out and take it from there. It's a good idea these days to go through the exercise of setting up a new wallet once a year or two. Keeps you on your toes too. Your backup can hold another 12~24 words eh? (Or did you go through metal stamping / etching in multiple locations which makes it a lot of work?)
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I thought about that, but it's a lot of work, for something that can happen again in the new wallet. My cold wallet is now very securely backed up and I'll have to redo everything if I change wallets. I might do it at some point, but right now it's just too much work. I think I'll wait for SatoshiLabs to add Coin Control to Trezor Wallet ( thanks 20kevin20), and then mark all of the attack dust as "do not spend". Will see how this works out and take it from there. It's a good idea these days to go through the exercise of setting up a new wallet once a year or two. Keeps you on your toes too. Your backup can hold another 12~24 words eh? (Or did you go through metal stamping / etching in multiple locations which makes it a lot of work?) Not metal, laminated paper, but something like that, yes. I see your point and I agree, just can't be bothered right now. Maybe when we hit $100k. Oh wait, that's this year, right?
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Could be an attempt of your gov to identify you, or for a bad actor to link your addresses together. If the attacker sends you 544 sats to an address of yours containing 1 BTC and you include another input of 9 BTC in the tx, whoever sends you the dust now finds out you don't only have 1 BTC in your wallet but 10. It's easier to trace this once you send the dust yourself and start from there.
I don't really see how this gains you any benefit over just regular blockchain analysis.
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April 15, 2021, 03:16:57 PM |
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I think I'll wait for SatoshiLabs to add Coin Control to Trezor Wallet ( thanks 20kevin20), and then mark all of the attack dust as "do not spend". Will see how this works out and take it from there. Any decent wallet will not try to spend dust that costs more to send than it's worth. I'm not sure if this would be under the limit or not.
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Was reading an article that estimated the top 1% of the worlds population own roughly 44.8% of the wealth.
Consider the following, there is currently 7.9Billion People and only 21Million BTC That is 0.002658227BTC Per Person...
Or is it....
1% = 79Million People 44.8% Bitcoin = 9,408,000BTC 0.119088607BTC for each of the Top 1%
Leaving....
99% = 7.821Billion People 55.2% Bitcoin = 11,592,000BTC 0.001482163BTC for each of the 99%
But.....
If you look at the remaining 99% closely, roughly 64% or 5.056Billion only control 2% of the worlds wealth or 420,000BTC
0.000083069 For each of the bottom 64%
Not taking into consideration any lost coins! The more variables we add the less and less Bitcoins Per Person....
Where above do you currently fit!....
It would just be matter a time, hold onto as many Bitcoins as you can! You are establishing your Generational Wealth!
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I'm all for coinbase doing the IPO and being the "first crypto company to get on nasdaq" BUT the only question I have is.. If you sit on money to invest, why would you buy coinbase stock vs buying btc? Enlighten me someone?
You cannot buy bitcoin in your typical tax-advantageous accounts (in US), such as IRA and Roth IRA. Theoretically, you can if you open something called self-directed IRA, but it is a hassle and they have yearly fees, typically. You can buy GBTC and COIN there, though. A simple explanation. Most US people have a bulk of their investable money in those entities (IRA and Roth IRA). Gotcha, so it's for tax purposes more or less? How does it work if you buy BTC direct, no tax cuts or otherwise? yes and plus, as i mentioned, you are not allowed to trade btc in most IRAs, but you can trade stocks (like GBTC and COIN). BTW, it looks like that WS wants to play COIN the same way they played FB (push it down first). They probably think that this drop might entice more employees to sell. Right now those employees are probably on pins and needles since they could have sold it in pre-IPO sales for $470 and now the price is $100 lower. $580 on FTX looks like a joke (for now). The self directed IRA is well worth going through the hoops to setup. Thanks to WO I learned of the possibility over a year ago and decided to do it. Best decision I've ever made. Yes there are yearly fees but so what. It's worth it to take control of your retirement account. Don't sleep on this especially if you have a decent chunk sitting in a regular 401k or IRA not doing much. That was some of the angles that I was superficially considering in late 2014. I had already acquired a decent direct stake in bitcoin by late 2014, but my stake in bitcoin was negative in terms of the amount that I invested in and the BTC price (I think that the BTC price was around $400 during that time and my cost per BTC was likely higher than $600 per BTC), and I was thinking that I could take half of my 401k and largely more than double my BTC holdings (and bring down my average cost per BTC too), but have those funds within a self-directed IRA - so not suffer any tax consequences for the management or the moving around of those funds, once they are in such self-directed IRA. My ultimate conclusion was that I had already acquired a more than sufficient stake in bitcoin, so why put my 401k funds at potential risk - and if BTC goes up anywhere close previous ATHs of $1,163, my BTC investment would provide sufficiently in terms of returns and hedging and of course, I was thinking that there were decent possibilities that BTC go into the $3k to $5k range with $10k as more bullish scenarios that could take many years to play out. I don't really regret my decision, even though I do see the power of such self-directed optionality, which does still seem quite tempting and probably even more tempting for someone who might have a longer investment time horizon, as compared to my own. Weird stuff is going on. Yes BTC is kind of putt putting but my kid is going on about his DOGE mining (I've reactivated a few Titans, and they are fucking PROFITABLE? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ON DOGE? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ? IT'S THE GOD OF SHITCOINS!!!!!) So what's up? People just nuts? I'm not seeing relative movement on LTC, it's still pegged at .004 to a BTC instead of the .012-.018 before the 2019 implosions. I have around 20 l3+ miners and they merge mine ltc/doge I sell the ltc for fiat and btc. I hodl the doge and level up my sales. 2000 at 4 cents 2000 at 5 cents 2000 at 6 cents. 2000 at 7 cents 2000 at 8 cents 2000 at 9 cents 2000 at 10 cents 2000 at 11 cents 2000 at 12 cents 2000 at 13 cents 2000 at 14 cents every one above is gone sold. So i still have 1000 at 15 cents 1000 at 16 cents 1000 at 17 cents 1000 at 18 cents 1000 at 19 cents 500 at 20 cents 500 at 21 cents 500 at 22 cents 500 at 23 cents 500 at 24 cents while all of the above was listed and sold or is still listed. I am stacking about 5 ltc and 10000 doge a month mining. when every thing sells out or when I stack 20000 doge with the current mining I will stack again. My partner hodl all his doge and is pushing 700,000 doge on hodl I am a little reluctant to engage on your shitcoinery talk Philip, but seems that you are taking a kind of practical approach to the matter to try to skim profits in a seemingly reasonable way that really structures you to benefit from the volatility of that piece of shit, lock in profits as the doge coin prices goes up and still have some more to sell in the event it goes up even more.. which seems outrageous that it even got over a penny and now it is reaching 14x outrageous.. Anyone who holds onto an asset such as doge (referring to your partner) seems quite deluded and surely a kind of gamble based on ongoing pumpability that could end up drying up at any minute, especially when considering how much lackenings in fundamentals exist with that particular coin. Regarding your selling ultimately into dollars and BTC, of course, BTC is the better longer term asset, but surely you are likely generating a decent quantity of dollar related bills too that are either somewhat connected to the business (probably the shed could be considered in such direction), and whether your electicity costs are going up, surely that is an ongoing expense in which it is good to have available dollars but surely to spend the dollars rather than the BTC with considerations of Gresham law principles, even if you might have options to pay in BTC. By the way, any of us who might attempt to increase some of our spending of BTC would likely be considering that we might be spending and replacing or at least taking those BTC from excess BTC that we had acquired - which may well be part of Saylor's recent rationale to considerably increase his likely ongoing BTC expenditures by deciding to pay as certain number of non-employees in BTC (not sure if they have options regarding doing that partially or if it is just something that they have to receive 100% in BTC).. but anyhow, my point is that these kinds of paying in BTC can become way easier to do when there had already been decisions to convert so large of portions of cashflow into BTC.. so when I largely recommend 1% to 10%, and if Saylor/Microstrategy had many examples of way higher allocations into BTC (maybe in the 50% or higher arena), then they become way more justified in terms of their shaving off some of those BTC holdings or putting the BTC holdings to work in terms of satisfying their ongoing operating expenses.
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I think I'll wait for SatoshiLabs to add Coin Control to Trezor Wallet ( thanks 20kevin20), and then mark all of the attack dust as "do not spend". Will see how this works out and take it from there. Any decent wallet will not try to spend dust that costs more to send than it's worth. I'm not sure if this would be under the limit or not. All dust attacks are exactly 0.00000547 BTC, some are from the same address, but not all. That's around $0.34 per dust particle. I guess it would cost more to send than it's worth...
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I don't really see how this gains you any benefit over just regular blockchain analysis.
Perhaps the bad actor knows that someone with small experience in crypto will not know about dust attacks, and so chances are high that those who do not move the dust are either inactive wallets or their owners know how to avoid these kind of attacks. If so, then you as an attacker know who is more vulnerable than the rest, prioritizing them on the list of targets. @AlcoHoDl yes, it will cost more to spend than the dust itself. Especially during these times.
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Joe Biden and his evil Democrats going to try to expand the Supreme Court because if you are not happy with a voting outcome you can just change the rules as you can go along right?
Not even a mention of this on the CNN propaganda network.
Perhaps it's time someone invaded the USA and liberated it from these gangsters.
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Saylor believes the 4 year cycles are over. In any case, their company is hodling for a minimum of 5 years.
I think he is wrong, that would mean that the halving and subsequent boom would never again be followed by a bust. No way, it's way to early for that. I don't think he's completely correct either. So it could be there might be a bear winter thing, but maybe not 80% to 90% corrections. If you are prepared for that, and we get a smaller one, then you should be fine. And the next halving is a puny thing, taking just a little over 3 btc per block. So maybe not completely correct, but this halving will be disappointing IMO. What will not be disappointing is what happens between now and said halving. I think we're going to see things we've never seen before. It seems quite premature to be suggesting that this upcoming halvening is NOT going to be significant and even go so far as to call it "puny" when the fact of the matter remains that the impact of the value of the coins ONLY needs to be around 2x in order for the halvening to have a similar value impact (sure there may well be some other factors, but on the face of it, think about it).** So, the 2020 halvening had BTC prices bouncing between $7k and $10k at around the time of the halvening, and do we have at least double that value now? And what is going to be the value of BTC at around the time of the 2024 halvening? Get a grip peeps, including uie-pooie, d_eddie. Or am I reading you wrong? What price do you expect BTC to be around the 2024 halvening? I surmise that the BTC price around the 2024 halvening is going to be at least $60k.. which would be more than 6x the BTC price around the time of the 2020 halvening. Would that be significant? Would that be "puny"? Here's my "speculation" of an answer in small text... so you do not read my answer before coming up with your own answer... do your own mental, logical and factual based work, peeps.. and don't be lazy fucks.... : Would that be significant? well, yes. Would that be "puny"? not only no.. fuck no. **By the way, I will grant you some benefit of the doubt in regards to the required BTC price needing to be more than 2x higher in order for the impact to be higher based on the assessment of the size of the reward to BTC's whole circulating supply... Nonetheless, I am going to still use 2x as a general mental guideline.
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April 15, 2021, 03:47:07 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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I'm all for coinbase doing the IPO and being the "first crypto company to get on nasdaq" BUT the only question I have is.. If you sit on money to invest, why would you buy coinbase stock vs buying btc? Enlighten me someone?
You cannot buy bitcoin in your typical tax-advantageous accounts (in US), such as IRA and Roth IRA. Theoretically, you can if you open something called self-directed IRA, but it is a hassle and they have yearly fees, typically. You can buy GBTC and COIN there, though. A simple explanation. Most US people have a bulk of their investable money in those entities (IRA and Roth IRA). Gotcha, so it's for tax purposes more or less? How does it work if you buy BTC direct, no tax cuts or otherwise? yes and plus, as i mentioned, you are not allowed to trade btc in most IRAs, but you can trade stocks (like GBTC and COIN). BTW, it looks like that WS wants to play COIN the same way they played FB (push it down first). They probably think that this drop might entice more employees to sell. Right now those employees are probably on pins and needles since they could have sold it in pre-IPO sales for $470 and now the price is $100 lower. $580 on FTX looks like a joke (for now). The self directed IRA is well worth going through the hoops to setup. Thanks to WO I learned of the possibility over a year ago and decided to do it. Best decision I've ever made. Yes there are yearly fees but so what. It's worth it to take control of your retirement account. Don't sleep on this especially if you have a decent chunk sitting in a regular 401k or IRA not doing much. That was some of the angles that I was superficially considering in late 2014. I had already acquired a decent direct stake in bitcoin by late 2014, but my stake in bitcoin was negative in terms of the amount that I invested in and the BTC price (I think that the BTC price was around $400 during that time and my cost per BTC was likely higher than $600 per BTC), and I was thinking that I could take half of my 401k and largely more than double my BTC holdings (and bring down my average cost per BTC too), but have those funds within a self-directed IRA - so not suffer any tax consequences for the management or the moving around of those funds, once they are in such self-directed IRA. My ultimate conclusion was that I had already acquired a more than sufficient stake in bitcoin, so why put my 401k funds at potential risk - and if BTC goes up anywhere close previous ATHs of $1,163, my BTC investment would provide sufficiently in terms of returns and hedging and of course, I was thinking that there were decent possibilities that BTC go into the $3k to $5k range with $10k as more bullish scenarios that could take many years to play out. I don't really regret my decision, even though I do see the power of such self-directed optionality, which does still seem quite tempting and probably even more tempting for someone who might have a longer investment time horizon, as compared to my own. Weird stuff is going on. Yes BTC is kind of putt putting but my kid is going on about his DOGE mining (I've reactivated a few Titans, and they are fucking PROFITABLE? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ON DOGE? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ? IT'S THE GOD OF SHITCOINS!!!!!) So what's up? People just nuts? I'm not seeing relative movement on LTC, it's still pegged at .004 to a BTC instead of the .012-.018 before the 2019 implosions. I have around 20 l3+ miners and they merge mine ltc/doge I sell the ltc for fiat and btc. I hodl the doge and level up my sales. 2000 at 4 cents 2000 at 5 cents 2000 at 6 cents. 2000 at 7 cents 2000 at 8 cents 2000 at 9 cents 2000 at 10 cents 2000 at 11 cents 2000 at 12 cents 2000 at 13 cents 2000 at 14 cents every one above is gone sold. So i still have 1000 at 15 cents 1000 at 16 cents 1000 at 17 cents 1000 at 18 cents 1000 at 19 cents 500 at 20 cents 500 at 21 cents 500 at 22 cents 500 at 23 cents 500 at 24 cents while all of the above was listed and sold or is still listed. I am stacking about 5 ltc and 10000 doge a month mining. when every thing sells out or when I stack 20000 doge with the current mining I will stack again. My partner hodl all his doge and is pushing 700,000 doge on hodl I am a little reluctant to engage on your shitcoinery talk Philip, but seems that you are taking a kind of practical approach to the matter to try to skim profits in a seemingly reasonable way that really structures you to benefit from the volatility of that piece of shit, lock in profits as the doge coin prices goes up and still have some more to sell in the event it goes up even more.. which seems outrageous that it even got over a penny and now it is reaching 14x outrageous.. Anyone who holds onto an asset such as doge (referring to your partner) seems quite deluded and surely a kind of gamble based on ongoing pumpability that could end up drying up at any minute, especially when considering how much lackenings in fundamentals exist with that particular coin. Regarding your selling ultimately into dollars and BTC, of course, BTC is the better longer term asset, but surely you are likely generating a decent quantity of dollar related bills too that are either somewhat connected to the business (probably the shed could be considered in such direction), and whether your electicity costs are going up, surely that is an ongoing expense in which it is good to have available dollars but surely to spend the dollars rather than the BTC with considerations of Gresham law principles, even if you might have options to pay in BTC. By the way, any of us who might attempt to increase some of our spending of BTC would likely be considering that we might be spending and replacing or at least taking those BTC from excess BTC that we had acquired - which may well be part of Saylor's recent rationale to considerably increase his likely ongoing BTC expenditures by deciding to pay as certain number of non-employees in BTC (not sure if they have options regarding doing that partially or if it is just something that they have to receive 100% in BTC).. but anyhow, my point is that these kinds of paying in BTC can become way easier to do when there had already been decisions to convert so large of portions of cashflow into BTC.. so when I largely recommend 1% to 10%, and if Saylor/Microstrategy had many examples of way higher allocations into BTC (maybe in the 50% or higher arena), then they become way more justified in terms of their shaving off some of those BTC holdings or putting the BTC holdings to work in terms of satisfying their ongoing operating expenses. Yeah. I only care about BTC. So I have to weigh how to get it at a discount since most of the BTC I get (not all) is via mined coins. I primarily believe in power to coin or POW I primarily believe in BTC. But on a practical level. Current prices for in stock gear. 18,500 usd in BTC direct gear will get me about 38 usd worth of BTC after power. 18,500 usd in ETH/GPU gear will get me about 56 usd worth of BTC after power and autoverting to BTC 18,500 usd in LTC/DOGE gear will get me about 175 usd worth go BTC after power and autoverting to BTC In the 3 cases above. I could do any of the three with my power setup. In fact I can do all of them since I have 300 kwatts of available power. and about 140 kwatts in use. So I do have this in L3+ miner 10,000 usd in LTC/DOGE gear It is fully paid off and I do get on a daily basis get about 54 usd worth of BTC after power and converting the ltc and doge to BTC. I won't talk about the BTC gear I won't talk about the Eht/gpu gear. MY l3+ gear burns 15kwatts an hour. My Eth and my BTC gear burns over 100kwatts All of my mining is designed to gather BTC in. My main partner is far more bullish on all coins. He is holding far too many other coins. I begged him to cash more doge and convert to cash and btc. But on paper he did better holding his doge. I made over 60k on doge this year. He is more than that about 77k if he cashes them.
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Cheapest transaction fee now is at least $5 USD. According to many estimators, it's 100 sats per vbyte.
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Joe Biden and his evil Democrats going to try to expand the Supreme Court because if you are not happy with a voting outcome you can just change the rules as you can go along right?
Not even a mention of this on the CNN propaganda network.
Perhaps it's time someone invaded the USA and liberated it from these gangsters.
What do you think is currently happening? It's just the invaders are not intent on liberating us, but enslaving us. The US is most likely done. It's too bad. We were really a good experiment. In my opinion one of the best attempts at a good government ever done. And yet, fully, and completely failed, subverted and now being destroyed. Most of my countrymen have no idea either...
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April 15, 2021, 04:01:21 PM |
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Joe Biden and his evil Democrats going to try to expand the Supreme Court because if you are not happy with a voting outcome you can just change the rules as you can go along right?
Not even a mention of this on the CNN propaganda network.
Perhaps it's time someone invaded the USA and liberated it from these gangsters.
What do you think is currently happening? It's just the invaders are not intent on liberating us, but enslaving us. The US is most likely done. It's too bad. We were really a good experiment. In my opinion one of the best attempts at a good government ever done. And yet, fully, and completely failed, subverted and now being destroyed. Most of my countrymen have no idea either... I'm just astonished this is being accepted. And then people riot over dead criminals constantly. Mind you, that's probably part of the tactic playbook I guess.
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philipma1957
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'The right to privacy matters'
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April 15, 2021, 04:10:05 PM |
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they are not going to stack the supreme court.
just talk.
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