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As you know, I've only been actively investing for about 5 weeks now, and you Nailed it! I'd certainly love the opportunity to grab some cheap coins because I certainly don't believe I "have enough".

Why don't we put this into context?  You are admittedly a newbie in bitcoin, and you come into a long term bitcoin thread, and you want to root for downity bitcoin prices, merely because you are a newbie and you do not have enough coins.

Does that make much sense to you?

I remember in 2014 there were members rooting for down, and the BTC price kept going down, and then when the price got to the bottom, some of those members rooting for down disappeared..

Does it make any sense for the bitcoin price to go down several thousand more dollars and for you to merely pick up .015BTC, and the rest of us suffer thousands (or even million dollars) of lost value "on paper" in order for you to buy measly amounts of bitcoin?



But I believe I have done about the best as can be expected in 5 weeks and limited capital invested. And truth be told, if I never make a dime off of it, life is good, so who gives a fly flipping fuck?

If you are in it for the long term, then it could take several cycles before you really feel like you have both built a meaningful stash and that you are quite a bit in comfortable profits... of course, mileage is going to vary in terms of when those tipping points take place... for example, going from a beggar to a mediumly comfortable to feeling almost rich to feeling rich to feeling fuck you rich status to feeling filthy wealthy.. and sure not everyone is going to be able to reach the highest of the stages.


I just noted, there seems to be a significant number of people interested in buying but keeping their money's on 5he sidelines waiting for that magic number.

Those people might get stuck chasing the train while they drop their luggage.. and so what, the train is not going to stop for their greedy and non-prepared lil asses.

Whether right or wrong, they're there... they exist.

There are always going to be some people who are failing and refusing to act.. and some of them don't even set up an account so that they are able to have a vehicle through which they are going to be able to act.


So as I'm looking at the order books, I noted there's a significant jump in the orders from 200 up to 5000 by the time it gets down to $28k and up to 8000 bids by $25k and my suspicion is that a significant majority of those bids, if filled, would hold at least until the $75k range, and probably as high as $100k. So if all those lowball buyers jumped into the market, I expect it would cause a lot of upward momentum. And if that upward momentum took us past $42k you'd see a lot of additional FOMO buyers jumping in to carry us higher. Meanwhile I'd be holding my meager stack of SATS and making my more insignificant weekly DCA buys while waiting for the next crash so I can see what the new bottom is and start buying dips again.

Well do what you can do.... rooting for down does not seem that great of a line to be using in these here parts.

All told, it's a fun ride regardless of whether you watch from the front, middle, or back... at least you're not watching it go by from the ground.

It is still early days, so there are a whole hell of a lot of people and institutions and governments who have hardly any exposure at all to this asset class... so surely it should feel good to have some insight into the matter and to have some systems set up to buy what you can and attempt to buy on dips or whatever when new cash comes in, so that you continue to have some kinds of advantages.  Sure, even when bitcoin gets to be $100k or $200k and you might only have a few coins, there might be some newbies coming into bitcoin and buying 100s or even 1,000s of coins, and you feel like a small potato relatively speaking, but that just seems to be part of the ongoing likely dynamic of this asset class whether it gets to $200k this cycle or it takes another cycle to get there.

..... I had a reply typed up but what's the point, I'm not going to (and not trying to) change anyone's mind here and it's decidedly off topic.

Let's get back to bitching about China and Elon whatshisname.

Off topic in the Wob??  I didn't think that was possible.
As long as you are not a cryptonian alt, I think you're good.
Mind you, mentioning the word "c****o" might irritate jay, causing him to spout lots of wordenings...

Gosh... I didn't even get triggered, or did I?

Speaking of the BTC price:

As I type we seem to be dippenning and pushing upon low $32ks.... perhaps?  Perhaps?

What to do peeps?

Cry?

Or something else?

32K is Adam's number so it is appropriate we should form a solid base here ... he's probably the one doing all the dumping now his target is met

I speculate that Adam had a mental breakdown, and he was surely distracted by BIGblocker nonsense for a decently long period of time, so I wonder how many coins that he was able to hang onto, rather than getting distracted into various shitcoins... but sure, hopefully he did not fuck his lil selfie too badly with the varying lackenings of focus that especially seemed to have come around the time that he lost his account here (wasn't that early 2017?), and then he failed/refused to get it back because he had too much pride..

So at least, richie_T (not meaning to overly drag in another BIG blocker sympathizer) did not go that far and seemed to have hung onto chartbuddy (and some BTC, too) and his willingness to put up with us shitheads around here (in the WO thread).. thanks richie and thanks chart buddy (fellow bot - no homo).
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July 09, 2021, 05:42:00 AM
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You know what's weird?

Bitcointalk is blocked in China, but bitcoin.org isn't.

https://www.comparitech.com/privacy-security-tools/blockedinchina/

Kinda weird.
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Evolution can't go wrong.

But, evolution has a goal: survival of the fittest.

We think we can influence evolution. Condoms, contraceptives and vaccines are some of our supposed influences. But, they are not really influences, because this is all part of evolution. We are all in the same system. Being smart and capable enough to invent the condom and develop contraceptives and vaccines is part of our own evolution. Evolution has brought us this far, and has favored these choices.

The fittest shall survive, while the weakest shall perish. Deal with it.
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@JJG:
Amongst the more naturally baked minds it is considered an absolute truth that reality is an "agreement".
You see, something went wrong in evolution, maybe it's temporary (i hope so), but humans generally got way more brainpower than most of them can manage, so it kinda bleeds into other activity apart of sane conclusions based on repeated observations.
Maybe (most) drugs are just a good way to tame that overshooting brain-capacity.
I wish we could power miners with that excess energy. Some day, perhaps?  Huh Wink

I am not even sure if we might NOT be communicating ourselves very clearly, because I am not really making any kind of claim to knowing transcendental truth/reality or even if such a thing matters very much.

No worries, looks you're healthy in regards of grasping reality. The above writing wasn't precisely about you, anyway.
I tried to elaborate more, but after three deleted drafts i gave up on it. My mind is still foggy from being sick, in addition to the usual memory limitations.

I was suggesting that some people seem to be way the hell more detached from reality than others, and when some of those kinds of people are suggesting that all truth is relative, then such claims dilute the fact that there are more plausible claims upon closer approximations of reality - without even getting to any kind of need for consensus or agreement, even though I am not going to argue that there are not a whole fucking lot of agreements in existence that started way before any of us were born, and at the same time the various agreements are a evolving phenomenon with bitcoin being a pretty big and new consensus stimulating element that did not exist prior to 2009 - at least in any kind of meaningful and widespread practicing form.

I agree.
It's a narrow path between reality and belief(s).
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If 'they' are setting up ~32K to be like 6.5K in 2018, then my calculations and approximations (from proportionally reduced plunges) give a bottom at 20-21K (the exact number is about 20.5K, but the whole thing is a projection and unlikely to exactly "fit").
It could be just a wick. I can handle this price without being upset.


I'd agree at the end of a bear market, but we're in the middle of a "year of the bull" already, so i would be surprised by a bottom as low as $20k-$21k.

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Of course, if we go there, it means that we were in the bear market and then we would start recovering, hopefully.
It would also mean that the whole cycle was front run on the bull side.
Next cycle might not even be a real cycle since the impact of halving would be smaller and other factors (adoption) could become more important.

Sounds good enough for me, i always had the feeling of a front run, especially when i was zooming out.
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Looks like Dorsey and his Square is going to be building a Bitcoin hardware wallet; should be interesting!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-square-bitcoin-idUSKCN2EF04C
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Evolution can't go wrong.

But, evolution has a goal: survival of the fittest.

We think we can influence evolution. Condoms, contraceptives and vaccines are some of our supposed influences. But, they are not really influences, because this is all part of evolution. We are all in the same system. Being smart and capable enough to invent the condom and develop contraceptives and vaccines is part of our own evolution. Evolution has brought us this far, and has favored these choices.

The fittest shall survive, while the weakest shall perish. Deal with it.

I disagree here.
Did you take murphy's law and black swan events into account?  Wink
"Survival of the fittest" is not a goal, it's a paradigm. Survival is a goal, fitness is a key factor (and strongly relative).
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Evolution can't go wrong.

But, evolution has a goal: survival of the fittest.

We think we can influence evolution. Condoms, contraceptives and vaccines are some of our supposed influences. But, they are not really influences, because this is all part of evolution. We are all in the same system. Being smart and capable enough to invent the condom and develop contraceptives and vaccines is part of our own evolution. Evolution has brought us this far, and has favored these choices.

The fittest shall survive, while the weakest shall perish. Deal with it.

I disagree here.
Did you take murphy's law and black swan events into account?  Wink
"Survival of the fittest" is not a goal, it's a paradigm. Survival is a goal, fitness is a key factor (and strongly relative).

I see your point, but does it matter in the long run? Won't it all average out eventually? Unless there's a nuclear holocaust-type event that eradicates all living beings on earth.

What I find interesting is the proposition that even the human intellect itself is a product of evolution. So it's not limited only to physical attributes, although they seem to play the biggest part.

Some popular books about this:

Richard Dawkins — The Selfish Gene
Matt Ridley — The Red Queen
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Idiots, it's like asking for a ban on vaccines when a pandemic is taking off.

Luckily I don't think there is enough time for that proposal to become law before the Euro as a currency will reach hyperinflation, by that time the only thing saving the train wreck economy is Bitcoin.
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Have you ever thought about why there are more and more reports and tweets against Bitcoin?  Wink
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The fittest shall survive, while the weakest shall perish. Deal with it.



Wrong, The Fittest Shall survive is a Manmade dogmatic ideal Wink which was born in the Dark Times of Religion .Where every bit of progress that was not a Sword or Spear was considered Blasphemy/Witchcraft. Ima learn ya
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