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August 08, 2021, 09:24:30 PM |
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Typical, her $7 millions speaking fees would have send them to jail or worst in any civilized society.
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Darwinism in its purest form. I'd call it manslaughter, if not murder, caused by rampant corruption by, per definition, fascist governments and corporations. The prudent approach would have been any number of available drugs before mass roll-out of novel treatments. But the fact that those wouldn't have printed money surely has nothing to do with it. Which brand of cigarettes does your doctor smoke to stay healthy? Your going to have to flesh out those comments for me to follow what your trying to say and don't just link some retard site. Doctors claimed cigarettes were healthy in the fifties. Maybe he is referring to that.
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August 08, 2021, 09:51:50 PM |
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It's too bad it doesn't just infect assholes. Well getting rid of the villains of the world would be okay. But it would mean a really different place then we are used to living in.
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August 08, 2021, 10:23:00 PM |
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It's too bad it doesn't just infect assholes. Well getting rid of the villains of the world would be okay. But it would mean a really different place then we are used to living in. we have all been assholes at some point to someone, the world would be a very empty place if all assholes disappeared.
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August 08, 2021, 11:01:30 PM |
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August 08, 2021, 11:07:58 PM |
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Which brand of cigarettes does your doctor smoke to stay healthy?
Your going to have to flesh out those comments for me to follow what your trying to say and don't just link some retard site. I'll start with: I am pro vaccine, pro scientific method, pro empiricism. I am, however, vehemently against turning the entire population into unwitting guinea pigs for power and money hungry degenerates. And I'll follow with: I got bored compiling. Feel free to ask for elaboration on anything and I'll try to get around to it as soon as possible. Anyways, this entire issue is too complex to do justice in a post or two. I'll try to keep it as brief as possible, but will be happy to expand on any aspect (including verifiable sources). I'll divide this into four categories, and use color coding to indicate unimpeachable facts, statistical/scientific facts, speculation and personal opinion based on the available circumstantial evidence, things I remember as objectively demonstrated but am not sure about my ability to reconstruct the source in a timely manner (due to falsely assuming I wouldn't have to file everything in a private database). Note that I'm making no allegations beyond what I say directly. A fact is a fact, but a factually existing incentive does not necessarily imply abuse of it, just the possibility. The tl;dr is that the entire pandemic response was one of the biggest crimes in human history, that there is zero evidence that Covid is nowhere near as bad as claimed, that even doctors and scientists have spread misinformation numerous times (be it out of ignorance or greed; hence the reference to the smoking ad), that aNtIvAxX is a bullshit phrased weaponized by propagandists, that the vaccines do not work, that there are available treatments, that treatments are being censored for profit & power thus directly leading to hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths - which I hope are criminal negligence and not deliberate. Covid:- Low mortality rate without treatment as evidenced by national excess mortality data, fatality data, and studies.(WHO)(Johns Hopkins)
- Majority of hospitalizations in people aged around life expectancy, morbidly obese or otherwise immunocompromised.(CDC)(ONS)
- Various available treatments (revoking the legal grounds for EUA of the vaccines) with statistically significant efficacy and decades long studied safety profiles.(C19early)
- Mexico shows that we could end the pandemic almost over night.(MX Government)
- Pandemic could have been ended before it even started.(JPost)(USPTO)
Testing & Data Collecting:- PCR tests used to legitimize the pandemic produce disproportionate rates of false positives.
- Different number of cycles used based on vaccination status (#cycles correlate with accuracy).
- Tests not capable of differentiating Covid, influenza, etc.(Journal of Infection)
- Deaths falsely attributed to Covid.(IPAK)
- Financial incentives to overreport Covid infections(The Guardian)
- Vaccine injuries underreported due to fear of being labelled antivax as well as gaslighting into believing 100% safety.(JAMA)
Lockdown & Mandates:- Caused an almost $4 Trillion USD wealth transfer from everyone to the crooks legitimizing the illicit measures.(BI)(The Guardian)
- Zero evidence that lockdowns stop, or even slow down, the spread of Covid.(ESCI)
- Zero evidence that masks stop, or even slow down, the spread of Covid.(ESCI)
- Obvious power grab (dystopian levels of monitoring and control despite incongruence with science).
- Sweden had no lockdowns or mandates, has comparatively low vaccination rates and excess mortality at pre-pandemic levels.(FEE)
mRNA Vaccines:- Novel treatment deployed for the first time in history.
- Never has any treatment been rushed out like these mRNA vaccines.
- Zero longitudinal studies imply with 100% certainty that the long-term safety and efficacy are unknown.
- Do not appear to really work as advertised.(CDC)
- Countries with highest vaccination rates correlate to those with the highest per capita rates of new outbreaks.
- Despite underreporting, highly questionable side effects that would have and indeed have in the past stopped trials in the past.(JAMA)(NCBI)(JAMA)
- Spike Protein can pass blood-brain barrier and concentrates in virtually all tissue (as opposed to localizing at injection site).(EMA)(NCBI)
- Appear to be relatively harmless for now, but could potentially be very dangerous. Thus making a mass rollout an objectively terrible idea.
- Print tens of billions of dollars for the shills pushing it.
- Could potentially trigger something called "Antibody-Dependent Enhancment (ADE)", which would make the disease far worse for the vaccinated.(Robert Malone [inventor of mRNA vaccination])
- Virtually nobody knows if they really got the vaccine or just a placebo.(UK Government)
- Should not be given to anyone who had a previous infection and thus natural immunity. (NIH)(Cell)
- Half of FDA & CDC unvaccinated.(Fauci)
- PhDs among the most hesitant to get the mRNA vaccine.(MedRXiv)
- Gibraltar is about 100% vaccinated and still has Covid cases.
Propaganda & Censorship:- Constant lies and fear porn that do not align with the data or science.
- Holding every imaginable and often mutually exclusive positions.
- Vilification of factual, scientific and data-driven discourse as "evil, braindead, grandma killing antivaxers".
- Deplatforming and deleting of comments (including peer reviewed papers and official government databases) on every major online platform.
- Pulling of published papers from renowned universities and journals, to stop the truth from coming out.
- Defunding of research (publish this or else).
- The above also applies to scientists and doctors.(MIT's Lex Fridman & Eric Weinstein)
- Repeated use of stock images.
- Individuals allegedly dying to Covid multiple times in multiple locations.
- Elites ignore all mandates once they think cameras go off, because they know they're a bunch of bullshit.
Not making any claims as to what exactly happened here and not connecting any dots. Just stating some facts below. Conflicts of interest:- Fauci led NIH controls funding for researchers.
- Fauci owns significant shares in Pfizer and profits substantially from the mRNA vaccine.
- Drugs used to treat common mRNA vaccine injuries further boost pharma sales.
- Censored drugs used to cure Covid cheap, effective, unpatentable, e.g. implying lower profitability.(C19early)
- Pfizer profiteering off of suppression of available cures(Pfizer)
Strange coincidences:- Obama lifted ban on "gain of function" research.(NIH)
- Fauci warns Trump of surprise pandemic.(Yahoo)
- Fauci funded "gain of function" research in Wuhan.
- Fauci & MSM covered up Wuhan leak, touting it as a coNsPirAcy TheOry.
- Four African presidents who chose not to deploy the mRNA vaccines in their countries were murdered.
- Let #n be an arbitrary 1~4 digit integer. Google "#n new Covid cases". Check the articles.
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August 08, 2021, 11:12:17 PM |
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Doctors claimed cigarettes were healthy in the fifties. Maybe he is referring to that.
I was indeed referring to that, as a historic example of corrupt doctors and scientists. Nothing new, still exists, won't go away. Which is why calling people AnTiVaXxEr helps nobody but those that try to profit off of our ignorance and in-fighting.
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August 08, 2021, 11:42:57 PM |
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I've had the Anthrax vaccine so if you haven't had it then I will consider you unvaxxed. I will then consider you as hesitant on getting the Anthrax jab.
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August 08, 2021, 11:59:51 PM Last edit: August 09, 2021, 12:19:58 AM by BitcoinBunny |
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One of the statements above is false. Sweden in fact does have mass Covid vaccine rollout. Indeed they didn't impose lockdown or do much mask wearing but events / get togethers WERE capped to 50 until April this year from what I know.
I'm not anti vax as such but even if you consider the entire UK population the media and government never mention the 98% of the population who contracted Covid and survived. They are constantly wheeling out examples of how scary it is and how it is attacking young people. However if you look at weekly deaths they are for 80-90% still in the over 60s. And that is with mass vaccine rollout in those upper age ranges.
If only cancer had a 98% survival rate. It is less than 50%. Yet you can still buy cigarettes after all this time. As long as you wear your mask when doing so hey? WTF! The chance of developing lung cancer eventually from regular smoking is estimated to be over 11%. That seems quite a chance to take. By all accounts NOT getting the Covid vaccine at all ages combined definitely seems like you would be running a MUCH lower risk from death of that particular disease.
Do young people need the Covid vaccines and will it help to achieve herd immunity? I'm not convinced.
It's great the vaccines exist because they seem to reduce number of deaths in those aged 70-80 and over. (That SEEMS to be the case, the real test will be this coming winter in the northern hemisphere) However vaxing a 12 year old with what is a vaccine that has not had multi year long investigations for a disease that mostly does no harm in youngsters seems COMPLETELY ridiculous to me.
Vaccine passports also seem mental. Not sure what the fuck is going on in Australia and France. They seem to have lost their minds.
We hear in the UK that the rise of cases (after mass vaccination in over 40s) was because of the delta variant. (Also in Israel now - both heavily vaxed countries) But why did the case load drop off in India without mass vaccination where this variant started? Why did bodies stopped floating in rivers?
More importantly how do we move forwards at this point.
I would have liked to have seen a consensus for travel between countries that have mass vaccine rollout to be restarted WITHOUT testing, quarantining, proof of jabs or whatever.
But I guess that is not going to happen any time soon.
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August 09, 2021, 12:36:00 AM |
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Looks like we keep seeing slow rises met with accumulation. At some point they will run out of sellers and this thing will blast off to the moon. I think we see large monthly gains these next couple of months as the news starts showing people getting rich again. We just need to hold onto our coins a little bit longer friends.
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August 09, 2021, 12:39:27 AM |
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One of the statements above is false. Sweden in fact does have mass Covid vaccine rollout.
Around half the population, which is comparable to some of the "antivax" states in the US and significantly lower than the most vaccinated locations. It's great the vaccines exist because they seem to reduce number of deaths in those aged 70-80 and over. (That SEEMS to be the case, the real test will be this coming winter in the northern hemisphere) However vaxing a 12 year old with what is a vaccine that has not had multi year long investigations for a disease that mostly does no harm in youngsters seems COMPLETELY ridiculous to me.
At least temporarily. And having to re-inject a vaccine that comes with significant side-effects I see zero evidence that prophylaxis and early treatment wouldn't be overall safer for at-risk demographics. Though I would certainly be happy if everything available worked as advertised. Vaccine passports also seem mental. Not sure what the fuck is going on in Australia and France. They seem to have lost their minds.
Dystopian power grab. This is no longer coNsPirAcY theOrY but evident truth. I hope the vaccinated in Italy burning their vaccine passports out of solidarity won't be the minority. If not we're all in deep trouble, "The Great Filter" comes to mind. But why did the case load drop off in India without mass vaccination where this variant started? Why did bodies stopped floating in rivers?
To your second question. They apparently never did, at least not due to Covid. That was an issue that existed long before in India. For your first question. As far as I'm aware, India started using Ivermectin just like Mexico. I haven't dug into India because there's enough data available for IVM even without it, but that could potentially explain your question (presuming the claim is correct). More importantly how do we move forwards at this point.
Try to share the truth as far and wide as possible. I'm at my wit's end though. Good friends, including some with PhDs in natural sciences from the most prestigious universities in the world, operate strictly based on emotion and all sorts of other logical fallacies when confronted with data, peer reviewed studies and contradictions in legacy media reporting. And that's assuming I can even get them to look at the facts. People appear so ridiculously afraid of being labeled tinfoil, antivax, lizard-Nazi that they shut down any objective discourse. The only way to stop that is by converting as many as possible and preying for exponential networking effects to win over the propaganda before it's too late.
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I'll start with: I am pro vaccine, pro scientific method, pro empiricism. I am, however, vehemently against turning the entire population into unwitting guinea pigs for power and money hungry degenerates. Covid:Tests not capable of differentiating Covid, influenza, etc.(Journal of Infection)
First off, the list is a bunch of ad hoc arguments randomly put together. Secondly, I can only speak of PCR...It is complete bs to present it this way. The test(s) is/are perfectly capable of either detecting COVID or NOT detecting it. What the authorities are talking about and why some tests were withdrawn is a fact that early tests were not multiplexed, which means that they cannot determine if you have a flu. So, in case if you have a flu covid test would be simply negative (it will not say: you have flu, but not covid). I have no idea about your level of biological science sophistication, so I don't know if you are simply ignorant or willfully distort the facts. "It is not remotely accurate that the CDC test doesn't differentiate between flu and SARS-CoV-2. It doesn't detect influenza. It only detects SARS-CoV-2," said Wroblewski. "If flu and covid are both circulating, you would be able to detect only SARS-CoV-2 and not flu." https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210730/Claims-that-CDCe28099S-PCR-test-cane28099t-tell-covid-from-flu-are-wrong.aspxPlease stop posting opus size anti-vax propaganda on WO (it's not a right place)...and get vaccinated for crying out loud. ..and, don't kid yourself, you are NOT pro-vaccine and pro scientific method, you are far away from both.
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I'll start with: I am pro vaccine, pro scientific method, pro empiricism. I am, however, vehemently against turning the entire population into unwitting guinea pigs for power and money hungry degenerates. Covid:Tests not capable of differentiating Covid, influenza, etc.(Journal of Infection)
What the authorities are talking about and why some tests were withdrawn is a fact that early tests were not multiplexed, which means that they cannot determine if you have a flu I have no idea about your level of biological science sophistication, so I don't know if you are simply ignorant or willfully distort the facts. Ironic statement, given you've claimed I was wrong and then paraphrased my point to disprove me. Please stop posting opus size anti-vax propaganda on WO (it's not a right place)...and get vaccinated for crying out loud. ..and, don't kid yourself, you are NOT pro-vaccine and pro scientific method, you are far away from both. You are doing precisely what I asserted in my closing remarks. You fling around emotional, illogical dribble and ad hominems. I have all the usual vaccines, as well as degrees in mathematics and mathematical statistics. As such, I am more qualified to quantify and analyze any potential issues arising than a biologist or doctor based on the available data. In fact, statisticians are the ones who tell the medical professions which of their experiments are safe and effective. So kindly take your arrogance and fuck right off you anti-science cultist.
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August 09, 2021, 02:00:52 AM Last edit: August 09, 2021, 02:26:25 AM by marcus_of_augustus |
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... as you all know I'm loathe to wade into this bubbling vaccine debate , but some material has come across my desk that appears pertinent to the curious ... the contract Pfizer used to lock in governments appears to have been leaked (god loves a virtuous hacker or snitch) but it doesn't make pretty reading if it is genuine (I have no idea) https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontlinenews/information-security-expert-on-revealed-pfizer-agreements-theres-good-reason-pfizer-fought-to-hide-the-details-of-these-contracts/citing the clause that stipulates “if there are any laws or regulations in your country under which Pfizer could be prosecuted, you agree to CHANGE THE LAW OR REGULATION to close that off.”
“Supplying the product: ‘(Pfizer) shall have no liability for any failure to deliver doses in accordance with any estimated delivery dates… nor shall any such failure give Purchaser any right to cancel orders for any quantities of Product.’ ... as per the linked contract if genuine, they were going to get paid no matter what was delivered (or even if they delivered nothing), and were not liable for anything their product did ... they could have been injecting water, saline or whatever they are still going to get paid ~US$20 per shot, pretty nice contract if you can get it ... it does make you wonder if governments are now propagandising vaccines because they paid for this stuff so they are "damn well going to use it"
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August 09, 2021, 02:04:41 AM |
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Neither our brains nor society are evolved enough to handle sorting through this much information, this quickly. Everything boils down to a base emotional response, not necessarily guided by anything rational.
... you've actually nailed why propaganda works so well. It's not balanced information aimed at rational beings, cool heads and critical thinking, it is emotive sound-bites fed repeatedly into a fearful population that has been whipped up with some hysteria or another.
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I'll start with: I am pro vaccine, pro scientific method, pro empiricism. I am, however, vehemently against turning the entire population into unwitting guinea pigs for power and money hungry degenerates. Covid:Tests not capable of differentiating Covid, influenza, etc.(Journal of Infection)
What the authorities are talking about and why some tests were withdrawn is a fact that early tests were not multiplexed, which means that they cannot determine if you have a flu I have no idea about your level of biological science sophistication, so I don't know if you are simply ignorant or willfully distort the facts. Ironic statement, given you've claimed I was wrong and then paraphrased my point to disprove me. Please stop posting opus size anti-vax propaganda on WO (it's not a right place)...and get vaccinated for crying out loud. ..and, don't kid yourself, you are NOT pro-vaccine and pro scientific method, you are far away from both. You are doing precisely what I asserted in my closing remarks. You fling around emotional, illogical dribble and ad hominems. I have all the usual vaccines, as well as degrees in mathematics and mathematical statistics. As such, I am more qualified to quantify and analyze any potential issues arising than a biologist or doctor based on the available data. In fact, statisticians are the ones who tell the medical professions which of their experiments are safe and effective. So kindly take your arrogance and fuck right off you anti-science cultist. There is nothing in your writing to indicate that you are a scientist of any sort...well, maybe an alt-scientist, perhaps. When testing for covid only, you typically don't care about a flu. You presented this as some kind of weakness, which it is not based on initial objectives (to see if patient is covid positive or not). That's the typical problem with alts. You latch on something, then twist it until it is the opposite of actual truth. This is a fact, i have one friend who went completely wacko with all these alt theories-to me it is a mind virus of sorts. Be well and try to recover from it.
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