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Reaction to the China dam news?

Link or it did not happen.

What didn't happen?

Wasn't there a reference to some kind of China dam news?  That's what I was referring to.

Yes.. bond with proudhon.. that should help...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

*shrug* he's a WO original.

yeah... you engage in these kinds of disinformation campaigns with a decent amount of subtleness, but still noticeable enough for some of us folks attempting to pay some attention....  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Am I supposed to love puzzles, or something?

u be speakening in riddles.

But what else is new?

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Wasn't there a reference to some kind of China dam news?  That's what I was referring to.


Two dams in China's Inner Mongolia collapse after torrential rain

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/two-dams-chinas-inner-mongolia-collapse-after-torrential-rain-2021-07-19/

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Hulunbuir's city government said on its WeChat account that 16,660 people have been affected, with 326,622 mu (53,807 acres) of farmland submerged. Bridges and other transport infrastructure had also been destroyed.


Good thing they got all the ASICS out safe before hand!

New Headline "China Saves Bitcoin Mining!"

 I thought the military blew them up to prevent futher upstream flooding?
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Wasn't there a reference to some kind of China dam news?  That's what I was referring to.


Two dams in China's Inner Mongolia collapse after torrential rain

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/two-dams-chinas-inner-mongolia-collapse-after-torrential-rain-2021-07-19/

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Hulunbuir's city government said on its WeChat account that 16,660 people have been affected, with 326,622 mu (53,807 acres) of farmland submerged. Bridges and other transport infrastructure had also been destroyed.


Good thing they got all the ASICS out safe before hand!

New Headline "China Saves Bitcoin Mining!"

 I thought the military blew them up to prevent futher upstream flooding?

Maybe they blew the ones downstream after these failed? 

I'm not sure.

Can't find specifics of the entire story.
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Wasn't there a reference to some kind of China dam news?  That's what I was referring to.


Two dams in China's Inner Mongolia collapse after torrential rain

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/two-dams-chinas-inner-mongolia-collapse-after-torrential-rain-2021-07-19/

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Hulunbuir's city government said on its WeChat account that 16,660 people have been affected, with 326,622 mu (53,807 acres) of farmland submerged. Bridges and other transport infrastructure had also been destroyed.


Good thing they got all the ASICS out safe before hand!

New Headline "China Saves Bitcoin Mining!"

It would be better if an idle farm with 1eh in storage was wrecked.

but you are more likely to be correct.
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I thought the military blew them up to prevent futher upstream flooding?

Isn't that Mandirin for "collapsed"?

IE... Wuhan Laboratory worker "collapsed" after scheduling meeting with foreign reporter to tell about what really happened in November of 2019.


Well, I mean... that's the way I understood it anyway...
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as for the price going up.. i dont really pay much attention really unless its like a 40% move once way or another.

Why are you here then vapourminer?  just for luls, shits and giggles or for some udder reasonenings?

hahahahaha

lulz of course - the memes here have no equal anywhere on the net.

and how do you think i find out about >40% (or so) swings? by reading the WO!

Oh?  I suppose that makes some senses, when you put it like that.

This most recent dippening must have truly gotten your attention in a kind of full-time status for at least two months (but who's counting?), no?  Or that lingering in the 40% to 56% correction arena does not count?

And what about the dip in 2018  - dipped 70% in February 2018, and then bounced all over the place, but mostly not less than a 40% correction arena, and then got down to about 85% and then seemed to linger in a more than 50% dippening arena for more than 2 years... so that must have gotten a wee bit of your "attention," no?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

i really dont check the price that often, maybe every several days, sometimes longer.

Yeah, I don't tend to check the BTC price too frequently either, probably fewer than 24 times in a day on average.. so it does help that I just have the BTC price running in the background on my computer so I do not even have to check it, I just see it without efforts, and sometimes when I am sleeping I only check the BTC price a few times, and I have even been known to go a whole 8 hours or longer without checking the BTC price, especially while sleeping... or sometimes when I do not have an internet connection, I am able to show really good self-restraint in terms of NOT checking the BTC price.

So, yeah, I consider myself to be a pretty infrequent checker of BTC prices too, relatively speaking.

why so long between checks? because i set my buy/sell ladders up so they can cover a decent bit of oscillation without my attention.

Actually, I am even more proud of my lil selfie on this point.  My buy order spread is currently $6k or $7k, so if the BTC price oscillates towards an order being triggered on one end, a decent amount of BTC price movement needs to happen on the other end for a trigger of the order on the other end.. (so for example, when BTC price went down to $29,296 in the past couple of days, I had two buy orders trigger in the mid-$30,xxx and in the mid-$29,xxx.. so now, my next two sell orders will be triggered in the mid-$35,xxx and the mid-$36,xxx) but once the orders start triggering, then they are currently ONLY $1k apart from one another, so quite a few orders could get triggered if the BTC price keeps moving in the same direction once my first orders (of the spread) are triggered.


checking hourly or even just once daily makes it too easy to second guess myself.

It has been a hell of a long time since I second guessed myself - but I think that I would sometimes second-guess myself a lot in the 2015, 2016 and even into the 2017 time-frame... Even though in recent times, I have gotten quite a bit more comfortable with my BTC order placements, there are some times in which decently sized revamping does need to take place up and down the order book - and even if there might be some price movements that might cause me to tweak, too.. but these days those total overhalls (tweakenings) may only happen once or twice in a 6-12 month period, but then might happen a bit more frequently if there is a considerable amount of BTC price action. 

For example, in our BTC price move from $10k to $64,895 in around 7 months, I had quite a few sell orders that had already been in place up to around $35k, but then when BTC prices were looking like they were going to cross above $17,250, I started to feel that "this could escalate quickly and I did not want to be caught with my pants down.  So, it seems that I created sell orders up to around $70k and then when prices went past $35k, I made sell orders up to $100k. 

On a few occasions, I had also done a few downside reconsiderations of several of my buy orders based on some of my removal of a lot of the buy orders between mid-$9,xxx and mid-$15,xxx, and I did some other overall jiggerings that kind of relate to a kind of desire to cash out some of my dollars without really messing up my system and I am still in the midst of that - so i have some hesitancies to say too much regarding what my goals were and what actions I have been taking (and waiting for ) in order for the goals to be reached.. I probably will write more about that down the road.. if it still seems like a potentially relevant and interesting topic.


so once a week, if even that, seems enough. at least for the way i approach this, and looking back on my track record it was the times i had auto pilot set that were the best. guess that means i try set the ladders up as emotionlessly as possible.. so i dont get into scream like little girl mode.

For sure, I cannot blame you for any attempts to reduce the possibilities of triggering screaming little girl mode.. that surely should be a goal for each and every one of us, and I would not even assert that it can be completely reduced to something that might not come out - even if any of us may have thought that we had put in adequate and sufficient mitigating measures.


that being said if the price is on an upward tear (especially 2017, 2021 runs) i will leave the price up on the puter and my wife and i will stare in awe at the honey badgers antics.

Seems likely that many of longer-termers have been in that kind of situation whether we have wifey companion or not... and whether we have accumulated more than 0.21 BTC or not.
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Wasn't there a reference to some kind of China dam news?  That's what I was referring to.

Oh OK. Have it your way then. I guess it didn't happen.
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I actually heard of a third slightly before I posted but although I found quite a few references to it, I couldn't find a good primary source. If it happened, it's near Zhenghou City.

Obviously the humanitarian side of things is pretty bad but it could be a mixed bag for Bitcoin and stocks. There is also talk that the three gorges dam might be under increased pressure and if that fails, it would affect China's major industrial area and could threaten 100 million people (I don't have much solid on this though).
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I actually heard of a third slightly before I posted but although I found quite a few references to it, I couldn't find a good primary source. If it happened, it's near Zhenghou City.

Obviously the humanitarian side of things is pretty bad but it could be a mixed bag for Bitcoin and stocks. There is also talk that the three gorges dam might be under increased pressure and if that fails, it would affect China's major industrial area and could threaten 100 million people (I don't have much solid on this though).


Looks like this guy called it a year ago.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-weather-floods-dams/dam-collapse-in-china-could-point-to-a-black-swan-disaster-idUSKCN24N047


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Dam collapse in China could point to a 'black swan' disaster

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YANGSHUO, China (Reuters) - The dam at a small reservoir in China’s Guangxi region gave way last month after days of heavy rain in a collapse that could be a harbinger of sterner tests for many of the country’s 94,000 aging dams as the weather gets more extreme.


Damn that article was a year ago to the day yesterday.

I thought our infrastructure was piss poor but these guys got us beat by a mile!

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In 2006, the Ministry of Water Resources said, between 1954 and 2005, dykes had collapsed at 3,486 reservoirs due to sub-standard quality and poor management.

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In China’s worst dam catastrophe, the Banqiao on the Yellow River, completed in 1952 with Soviet assistance, collapsed in 1975, killing tens of thousands of people, official estimates published two decades later showed.


This just proves they do not take their peoples lives into account when planning infrastructure iprovements.

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^^ ... I'm not saying weather modification technology exists but damn if it isn't a coincidence that the covert biowar out of Wuhan was followed by cyber-attacks (masked as "ransomware" hacks) in the West began happening and now rainfall events in Commie China in excess of 200mm per hour!! wtf?

... oh yeah and HAARP was powered up again not so long ago, and it's almost incontrovertible now that the ionsphere and our weather in the troposphere are an inter-linked system
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This just proves they do not take their peoples lives into account when planning infrastructure iprovements.

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^^ ... I'm not saying weather modification technology exists but damn if it isn't a coincidence that the covert biowar out of Wuhan was followed by cyber-attacks (masked as "ransomware" hacks) in the West began happening and now rainfall events in Commie China in excess of 200mm per hour!! wtf?

... oh yeah and HAARP was powered up again not so long ago, and it's almost incontrovertible now that the ionsphere and our weather in the troposphere are an inter-linked system

Well, weather modification technology definitely exists. Just what we know about is nothing near that level.

But that reminds me of a story that's always stuck with me. Some astronomers in academia were working on a project whereby you would shine a laser into the sky and by observing the distortions, you could remove atmospheric distortions from images collected by telescopes. They were getting fairly far along when the military said "since you're going to work it out anyway, we already solved this problem" and a buttload of research they had already long completed was declassified and released. I didn't get to hear what the astronomers thought of this. Anyway, point is, if something has military applications, the military is probably a fair bit further along than what the public considers state of the art.
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it has come to my attention that there is a significant portion of people in this thread who seem only capable of piling on others with negativity and yet rarely post original thoughts that are constructive

i suggest instead of always trying to beat people down they instead try lifting them up...its surprising how good it can make one feel

just my two sats

This is a weird statement.

I wonder about what is your reference, both in regards to "coming to your attention" and also in terms of "actual examples of "beating people down."?

Sure, I do understand that sometimes arguments might devolve into ad hominem attacks, but sometimes there still might be substance that is mixed in there...

If you cannot resist, #label me as confused


yea...i guess it is    

i have been frustrated at many levels lately due to my own personal life and a few of the people in it...and i suppose some...or perhaps a lot of that...is leaking outwards

Seems that there's likely to be some leakage here and there along the way... hard to prevent that, especially when any of us are likely to have RLs IRL.


what i do see after some thought about your comment is it is most likely this incessant need i seem to have to try and impose my own personal set of morals onto others...not really a healthy place to be

as for a example..here are a couple that set me off    we argue..we banter...we pitch each other shit in these here parts to borrow some of your vernacular...and it is mostly done in a friendly...if raw at times...sort of way

i am fine with that...what bothers me is when it is intentionally cruel and/or persistent  ie  mindrust     all is fair in love and war but i do not think this falls under that definition     kicking someone when they are down and beaten raises the hackles on that set of personal morals i spoke of

Of course, we are going to reach differing judgements both in terms of whether a certain name might be raised, and also the extent to which to describe details to make whatever point that we are going to make, including whether we had made fair representations or even tried to make fair representations.

For sure, we are not going to come to similar conclusions, and surely members have mentioned previously how unfair/cruel it is to be bringing up the mindrust example and even sometimes examples of the circumstances of other members.

Any of us risk fair/unfair ridicule in these here parts, and surely the more personal details we provide might provide hooks upon which ridiculing can be made (again fairly or unfairly). 

I have personally experienced ridicule through the years, and sometimes I feel that there are misrepresentations or even wrong conclusions or intentional spinning of the facts - logic or unfairly bringing up my details, including that some members will never bring up their own details but monday morning quarter-back you regarding details that you have provided.

Overall, I think that there are a lot of decent balances that are reached in this thread, and sometimes even we are able to beat trolls or shills into submission - do some innocent newbie members get caught up and scared away from the thread.. perhaps?  perhaps?


another was the flippant attitude with which you personally responded to a newish forum member...stating in no uncertain terms that you were offering investment advice      

hahahahaha

From your description, I know the post.  Here's the link for reference.

I am not going to be regretful about that one, at all.. not one iota.  I might even rub it in a bit when the BTC price goes up a bit more in order to pour one out and to be sorry for his/her loss.


even tho i am pretty sure everyone understood your sarcasm Jay...what if they had not?    

Sure we can call it sarcasm, but there should be no sympathy for some newbie coming in and asking such a dumb and seemingly trollish question.  If he was really trying to time the market about when to sell and to buy back, after we have already had a 56% correction, I have no sympathy for that... even if some members might want to more seriously grapple with such supposed dilemma.


what if they took that as something serious from a well known and respected forum member and sold their stash at a loss...i know i would feel devastated    

That's called a weak hand, and any of us might need to be told some things that are the opposite from time to time, and again, I am not going to regret it..even though I did not put any disclaimer about DYOR or YMMV or any other disclaimer.

By the way, there are some dumb fucks that actually believe that we are in a bear market.. and too bad for them, and sure they might be correct.  Remember that I was wrong about all of 2018, and finally I agreed that we were in a bear market in November 2018 after the BTC price crashed from $6k-ish to $3,124..?  There were some peeps who benefitted from doing the opposite from what what I was saying during that time, and I give few shits.  I am not taking back any of my posts or do I have regrets.  Peeps need to be smart enough to employ their own judgement, and if they are teetering on the edge of selling and one legendary member such as yours truly causes them to go over the edge and to do the opposite of what a more rational self would have done, that still is on them.


i have a hard enough time with the charts i post for that very same reason

Well, its up to you if you feel that you need to put a disclaimer or if you might have persuaded someone in one direction or another if you are going to feel guilty about the matter.

I understand that one trade could cause real devastation in the life of someone  who was ONLY temporarily on the edge.. but sure, once they pull that trigger to buy or sell, they could truly screw the fuck out of their lil selfie... and maybe their whole family and some babies might die too.. and who is responsible?  They are.

I understand that there can be some pretty tragic situations when it comes to trading repercussions.. and some people are real weak emotionally, but they are on the interwebs taking advices...   They better be careful.  caveat emptor.


anyway..for the most part...it has little to due with the people in this thread, the price action or the wall movements of bitcoin...it is my own personal demons...so my apologies for that

I understand also that there can be some very BIG tragedies going on in the lives of some of us, whether health, relations, finances or a combination - and there are also some people who come to the interwebs for validation.. and sure it makes some of us feel good if we are praised.. and sometimes there can be conversations that really grate us for a long time.. whether the interaction is with disingenuine people or cruel people, and sometimes the world is cruel too..   I am doubtful if we can even expect sensitivity from other long term members here.. so there is some need for some thick skin too.. or maybe just avoid some places, including the interwebs when feeling more emotionally vulnerable... or otherwise in a place that is not good to be dealing with these kinds of interactions on the interwebs matters.

I would tell you to fuck off as a term of endearment, but maybe you are not in the mood for that, since you are currently mad at me as a purported internet meanie. So I will just call you toxic moxic, and proclaim that I am not a snowman, and that is about as much lovey-dovey nono homo shit that you are going to get from me at least in this here post, in these here parts on this here day.   Tongue Tongue
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^^ ... I'm not saying weather modification technology exists but damn if it isn't a coincidence that the covert biowar out of Wuhan was followed by cyber-attacks (masked as "ransomware" hacks) in the West began happening and now rainfall events in Commie China in excess of 200mm per hour!! wtf?

... oh yeah and HAARP was powered up again not so long ago, and it's almost incontrovertible now that the ionsphere and our weather in the troposphere are an inter-linked system

It’s so hot in Dubai the government is paying scientists to make it rain.

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Facing a hotter future, dwindling water sources and an exploding population, scientists in one Middle East country are making it rain.

Literally.

United Arab Emirates meteorological officials released a video this week of cars driving through a downpour in Ras al Khaimah in the northern part of the country. The storm was the result of one of the UAE’s newest efforts to increase rainfall in a desert nation that gets about four inches a year on average.

Washington, D.C., in contrast, has averaged nearly 45 inches of rain annually for the past decade.

Scientists created rainstorms by launching drones, which then zapped clouds with electricity, the Independent reports. Jolting droplets in the clouds can cause them to clump together, researchers found. The larger raindrops that result then fall to the ground, instead of evaporating midair — which is often the fate of smaller droplets in the UAE, where temperatures are hot and the clouds are high.

“What we are trying to do is to make the droplets inside the clouds big enough so that when they fall out of the cloud, they survive down to the surface,” meteorologist and researcher Keri Nicoll told CNN in May as her team prepared to start testing the drones near Dubai.

Nicoll is part of a team of scientists with the University of Reading in England whose research led to this week’s man-made rainstorms. In 2017, the university’s scientists received $1.5 million for use over three years from the UAE Research Program for Rain Enhancement Science, which has invested in at least nine different research projects over the past five years.

To test their research, Nicoll and her team built four drones with wingspans of about 6½ feet. The drones, which are launched from a catapult, can fly for about 40 minutes, CNN reported. During flight, the drone’s sensors measure temperature, humidity and electrical charge within a cloud, which lets the researchers know when and where they need to zap.

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yeah... you engage in these kinds of disinformation campaigns with a decent amount of subtleness, but still noticeable enough for some of us folks attempting to pay some attention....  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Am I supposed to love puzzles, or something?

u be speakening in riddles.

But what else is new?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

 Looks like one of those Hershey Kisses. I think you're meant to consume more foil-wrapped chocolate.

Fair enough.

If the various never ending puzzles of richie T are crowd sourced, sooner or later everything is going to make MOAR senses.


Wasn't there a reference to some kind of China dam news?  That's what I was referring to.

Oh OK. Have it your way then. I guess it didn't happen.

You see how you are?

I believe it is characterized as a "temperature tantrum"

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