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December 19, 2021, 10:05:51 PM

I think moving these posts would suffice, tbh.

I'm fine with that. No difference as far as I'm concerned. I don't care to engage in those discussions particularly much. As far as I can tell, everyone is doing their best to get through this as well as they can and there is not enough quality data being collected to make more than an approximate estimation of the best course of action and that will vary for different people in different circumstances in any case. I find the hate that's being genned up around this situation to be very concerning, particularly as it accompanies a rush to curtail freedoms.


As a rule of thumb, in complex systems (like a pandemic) simple solutions fail most of the time, not only by producing more problems by "unwanted side effects".
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I did not sell any btc to increase spending, but had to make some moves in a couple of unnamed alts that had obscene gains in 2021.
House remodeling is expensive.
My bitcoin stash keeps accumulating (slowly) due to mining rewards.

For those of you who like viewing some expensive RE (I have to say that the buildings themselves are amazing from the engineering perspective), check out this, although this is probably out of reach for almost everyone here...but in 10 years...who knows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wehsz38P74g


In New York?

OK as your second or third home, I guess.

maybe..the vibe from a promoter/re agent was that this is like owning a Picasso-something very unique and there are only about 400-500 apt total in skyscrapers like this (in NY).

I was suggested the video by youtube earlier today. It says that half the falts are empty, even the most expensive ones. Someone pays 250 millions for a flat and never uses it, even once. What a waste !

It was also suggested that maybe it wasn't the best investment, because at first, with one such tower, it was "unique", but now, like you say there are several hundreds of them.
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As far as I can tell, everyone is doing their best to get through this as well as they can and there is not enough quality data being collected to make more than an approximate estimation of the best course of action and that will vary for different people in different circumstances in any case.

... I can give you some hard data that might help inform your decisions, or any others that may be reading this that have faith in my integrity to supply sourced data

... the Pfizer vaccine 2 dose regime is 50% effective against the delta strain and wanes within 4 weeks, so you'll need a booster relatively soon with delta strain to maintain any meaningful protection

... it was only ever 95% effective against the Wuhan strain 2 weeks after second jab, it's been downhill since that nadir for the experimental gene therapies that have never been used for vaccinations previously

... in the general population about 1 in 20,000 is dying from vaccine injury per dose, so a 2 dose regime puts you at 1 in 10,000 risk of death, thus 100 people in a million are dying from mRNA jabs

... the most dangerous vax produced previously was for smallpox which killed 2 in a million so these mRNA jabs are 50 times more dangerous than the previously most dangerous jabs

... lethality from CoVID is about 1 in 1000 for people over 60 and co-morbidities (of which obesity is the major one) vit. D and zinc deficiencies are also major compounding factors ... this is a 99.8% survival rate

... lethality from CoVID is about 1 in 10,000 for people under 50 ... 99.9% survival rate with current treatments (monoclonal antibodies, zinc, dexamethadone)

https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcast/but-they-do-develop-vaccines-nikolai-petrovsky-everything/id1488846523?i=1000543679669

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I did not sell any btc to increase spending, but had to make some moves in a couple of unnamed alts that had obscene gains in 2021.
House remodeling is expensive.
My bitcoin stash keeps accumulating (slowly) due to mining rewards.

For those of you who like viewing some expensive RE (I have to say that the buildings themselves are amazing from the engineering perspective), check out this, although this is probably out of reach for almost everyone here...but in 10 years...who knows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wehsz38P74g


In New York?

OK as your second or third home, I guess.

maybe..the vibe from a promoter/re agent was that this is like owning a Picasso-something very unique and there are only about 400-500 apt total in skyscrapers like this (in NY).

I was suggested the video by youtube earlier today. It says that half the falts are empty, even the most expensive ones. Someone pays 250 millions for a flat and never uses it, even once. What a waste !

It was also suggested that maybe it wasn't the best investment, because at first, with one such tower, it was "unique", but now, like you say there are several hundreds of them.

4-5 buildings, 400-500 apartments, still a rarity..before Musk would start selling apartments on Mars, lol.
Not using bought apartments/houses is nothing new, though, London, Paris, Vancouver, Toronto, Singapore, etc., all have it and fighting back with unused property taxes.
Personally, I would love to have an apt in NY, preferably Manhattan, been there a lot during my thirties, loved it back then. London is very interesting too.

Re bitcoin...will someone post a man with a stick pic, please...not much action, it seems.
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I did not sell any btc to increase spending, but had to make some moves in a couple of unnamed alts that had obscene gains in 2021.
House remodeling is expensive.
My bitcoin stash keeps accumulating (slowly) due to mining rewards.

For those of you who like viewing some expensive RE (I have to say that the buildings themselves are amazing from the engineering perspective), check out this, although this is probably out of reach for almost everyone here...but in 10 years...who knows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wehsz38P74g


In New York?

OK as your second or third home, I guess.

maybe..the vibe from a promoter/re agent was that this is like owning a Picasso-something very unique and there are only about 400-500 apt total in skyscrapers like this (in NY).

I was suggested the video by youtube earlier today. It says that half the falts are empty, even the most expensive ones. Someone pays 250 millions for a flat and never uses it, even once. What a waste !

It was also suggested that maybe it wasn't the best investment, because at first, with one such tower, it was "unique", but now, like you say there are several hundreds of them.

 One day I hope to say that about a bitcoin Smiley
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December 19, 2021, 10:31:41 PM

I've just posted a reply to a post by Torque in Bob's thread.  Those involved in the COVID-19 discussion, or simply concerned and interested, may want to read it. It contains an analysis and some numerical results. I'm posting the above link to it here in WO, in the hope it gets some more exposure, as I think it's informative.

Please, let's keep that discussion in Bob's thread. Thanks.
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Naah, Ben told Jenny that he has another flask in his back pocket..hence the stony face (hers) and his smirk.
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I did not sell any btc to increase spending, but had to make some moves in a couple of unnamed alts that had obscene gains in 2021.
House remodeling is expensive.
My bitcoin stash keeps accumulating (slowly) due to mining rewards.

For those of you who like viewing some expensive RE (I have to say that the buildings themselves are amazing from the engineering perspective), check out this, although this is probably out of reach for almost everyone here...but in 10 years...who knows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wehsz38P74g



Really interesting... from an architectural and an economic view point.

There seems to be quite a bit of demand for these kind of investments, all over the world.

BTC might well suck up a nice portion of that. It just takes time until people really get its revolutionary concept.

Fittingly Saylor constantly compares BTC to NY real estate.... "Manhatten in cyberspace"  Cool
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Though I find more reprehensible those who are calling out those who responded to it. If you don't want counter-responses, don't post on controversial topics. Those who are crying that only their point of view should be expressed can go piss up a rope.

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maybe..the vibe from a promoter/re agent was that this is like owning a Picasso-something very unique and there are only about 400-500 apt total in skyscrapers like this (in NY).

Ah, so more like somewhere you can crash when you're in the vicinity.
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I was suggested the video by youtube earlier today. It says that half the falts are empty, even the most expensive ones. Someone pays 250 millions for a flat and never uses it, even once. What a waste !

It was also suggested that maybe it wasn't the best investment, because at first, with one such tower, it was "unique", but now, like you say there are several hundreds of them.

There's a glut of cheap money on the market. Everyone's looking at Bitcoin as tulip mania but nobody's looking at the elephant in the skyscraper.
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December 19, 2021, 11:51:36 PM

... I can give you some hard data that might help inform your decisions, or any others that may be reading this that have faith in my integrity to supply sourced data


That's about where I'm at, give or take. But I've seen a lot of other claims, some obvious bullshit, some less so in either direction so I'm limiting my confidence in my stance. Certainly, government claims have backed off from what was originally being said (though the propaganda soundbites are still hanging about in the zeitgeist because it's easier to get people to believe a lie/falsehood than to disbelieve it once they've internalized it).
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@AlcoHoDL post was legit-basically grievance for a family member, my condolencies.

However, i do think that COVID discussion should be mostly on Bob's thread.
A little here is OK, but not if it dominates.
Personally, i almost never post on this topic (maybe to clarify something biological) and I LIKE the idea of neutrality as I also don't like to discuss the political leanings per se.
It is also true that nothing, apart from bitcoin, unites the members, so we should be focused on bitcoin and connecting topics, imho.
Politics would never be a consensus here and no expectation of polite discourse on that.

I completely agree with all your post - we should look for things that will unite all WO  members despite their views on this clearly political not medical matter called Covid19.
So there are 2 pennies from me:
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@AlcoHoDL post was legit-basically grievance for a family member, my condolencies.

However, i do think that COVID discussion should be mostly on Bob's thread.
A little here is OK, but not if it dominates.
Personally, i almost never post on this topic (maybe to clarify something biological) and I LIKE the idea of neutrality as I also don't like to discuss the political leanings per se.
It is also true that nothing, apart from bitcoin, unites the members, so we should be focused on bitcoin and connecting topics, imho.
Politics would never be a consensus here and no expectation of polite discourse on that.

I completely agree with all your post - we should look for things that will unite all WO  members despite their views on this clearly political medical not medical political matter called Covid19.

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I agree it's best to minimize this crap here. Bob's thread is in off-topic for a reason.

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