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[aesma]

Hey.... i want to get married to an USA lady as well... 



Then id creampie that xD

I'm not against marrying a dude but convincing authorities that we're in love might be more difficult.

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[Copetech]

Ok whatever.... you mentioned "popular will of the people"/"representative democracy. "
If that was truly the case, that last clown elected in 2016 would not have happened.

.....

I would *welcome* a widespread review of gun laws in the US. The overwhelming majority of them would be thrown out as ineffectual if nothing else.

The USA is a gun toting culture. Always has been, always will be.
So get used to mass shootings. (I'd venture to guess most Americans have at this point) They are not going away.
Debating gun laws in the USA is like debating religion.
Just like the thoughts and prayers the victims get, it's totally fruitless and useless. Sad but true.

Amen

I don't know any other country that exposes their kids to "active-shooter drills" and defends the weapons used to assault their kids. But as you say it's like debating religion which isn't that strange with a Supreme Court that is pushing theocracy.

Just a note for charity's sake. Today's mass shooting was just outside of Chicago in an area that has some of the most restrictive "common sense gun laws" in the country. Mass shootings in schools are occurring in "gun free zones." Law's are no deterrent to mad lawless psychopaths hell bent on causing mass casualties. What DOES stop a madman with a gun, every single time, is a good guy with a gun... which is why these things always happen in places where none of the good guys can legally have guns. The untold story is the millions of rapes, assaults, and murders that are prevented by legally wielded handguns used in self protection. Why do you hate women so much as to want to take away the only tool they have to put them on equal standing to defend themselves from predatory men?

And as to Roe v Wade, I am actually rather liberal about my stance on abortion legislation I feel that there is no greater tragedy than an unwanted child. But as anyone with a reasonable understanding of our Constitutional Democratic Republic system should openly agree that Roe v Wade was clearly bad law based on unconstitutional judicial fiat and should have been repealed long ago. Our laws are to be set by elected legislators held responsible by the votes of their constituents, NOT a lifetime appointed group of Judges acting as robed tyrants. That is not a wise path regardless of your political wishes.

Abortion policy is not touched in the text of the Constitution and if our legislators want to put it there, there is a proscribed method for doing so. Or they could take the easier path of negotiating a common-sense bipartisan law to lay out basics on a federal level, or as it is now, leaving it completely up to the individual states to set that policy where-by the citizens of that state have the most ballot box power to punish/reward policy they disagree/agree with.

[eXPHorizon]

I'm not against marrying a dude but convincing authorities that we're in love might be more difficult.

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[goldkingcoiner]

Jesus Christ, another shooting in America? At this point, Americans should be accepted by other countries (the ones they haven't yet bombed) as refugees on the grounds that the USA is too dangerous to live in. well at least it wasn't a cop, firing 42 warning rounds into an unarmed persons back, this time.

[vapourminer]

The USA is a gun toting culture. Always has been, always will be.

pretty much.

guess instead of a lambo its gonna be an armored up merc for wheels. and a tactical vest with plate is what 20 lbs? man i need to get into shape to carry that extra weight so i can go to the store for milk and bread.

[Wilhelm]

Ok whatever.... you mentioned "popular will of the people"/"representative democracy. "
If that was truly the case, that last clown elected in 2016 would not have happened.

.....

I would *welcome* a widespread review of gun laws in the US. The overwhelming majority of them would be thrown out as ineffectual if nothing else.

The USA is a gun toting culture. Always has been, always will be.
So get used to mass shootings. (I'd venture to guess most Americans have at this point) They are not going away.
Debating gun laws in the USA is like debating religion.
Just like the thoughts and prayers the victims get, it's totally fruitless and useless. Sad but true.

Amen

I don't know any other country that exposes their kids to "active-shooter drills" and defends the weapons used to assault their kids. But as you say it's like debating religion which isn't that strange with a Supreme Court that is pushing theocracy.

Just a note for charity's sake. Today's mass shooting was just outside of Chicago in an area that has some of the most restrictive "common sense gun laws" in the country. Mass shootings in schools are occurring in "gun free zones." Law's are no deterrent to mad lawless psychopaths hell bent on causing mass casualties. What DOES stop a madman with a gun, every single time, is a good guy with a gun... which is why these things always happen in places where none of the good guys can legally have guns. The untold story is the millions of rapes, assaults, and murders that are prevented by legally wielded handguns used in self protection. Why do you hate women so much as to want to take away the only tool they have to put them on equal standing to defend themselves from predatory men?

And as to Roe v Wade, I am actually rather liberal about my stance on abortion legislation I feel that there is no greater tragedy than an unwanted child. But as anyone with a reasonable understanding of our Constitutional Democratic Republic system should openly agree that Roe v Wade was clearly bad law based on unconstitutional judicial fiat and should have been repealed long ago. Our laws are to be set by elected legislators held responsible by the votes of their constituents, NOT a lifetime appointed group of Judges acting as robed tyrants. That is not a wise path regardless of your political wishes.

Abortion policy is not touched in the text of the Constitution and if our legislators want to put it there, there is a proscribed method for doing so. Or they could take the easier path of negotiating a common-sense bipartisan law to lay out basics on a federal level, or as it is now, leaving it completely up to the individual states to set that policy where-by the citizens of that state have the most ballot box power to punish/reward policy they disagree/agree with.

1. The good guy with a gun myth has been debunked many times. Most situations are solved by unarmed individuals. Looking at the last shooting incidents the people trained to deal with it didn't even do their job. Parents of children broke the police line to get their kids out of harms way instead of waiting for the police to finally do something...
2. Gun control wil only work if you do it at a national level. Take a look at >90% or other countries because apparently everyone is doing a better job than the USA.

[BobLawblaw]

Aw. Look at the WO thread dropping limp-wristed takes on the Second Amendment.

How cute.

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[savetherainforest]

Aw. Look at the WO thread dropping limp-wristed takes on the Second Amendment.

How cute.

I believe that everyone has a right to shoot everyone, F^ck China!        .. Especially those blue hat UN troops that roam around the US. You should shoot those f^ckers first!!      

[cAPSLOCK]

Another teenage mass murderer in the USA.

 

Happy Independence Day... Ugh....

 

6 dead, dozens wounded in shooting rampage at July 4th parade in Chicago suburb of Highland Park

Don't know what's stopping usa from reviewing there gun law. This is crossing limits now.

Gun laws just got reviewed in the supreme court. Didn't go the way you'd like. Sorry, not sorry.

It is sad that it has to be explained.  But the gun laws in the USA are there so that if they try in the US what is being tried in other countries across the world it will be much harder to do.

The news will most likely not report it, but the shooter in Chicago was an antifa type masquerading as a "Trumper".  Why is this happening, you might ask?

We are in a war.  A new sort of war.

[goldkingcoiner]

Aw. Look at the WO thread dropping limp-wristed takes on the Second Amendment.

How cute.

I believe that everyone has a right to shoot everyone, F^ck China!        .. Especially those blue hat UN troops that roam around the US. You should shoot those f^ckers first!!      

https://youtu.be/gaa9iw85tW8?t=522

[cAPSLOCK]

Actually Rich, in the USA, thru weirdness of the system, there are some major policies that are not representative of the majority of population.. Roe v Wade being overturned for starters.

Roe v Wade was not "policy" and was not set by the legislature. Even RBG stated that the ruling was on shaky ground. The Dems have had many occasions they could have enshrined it as law but, like the late RBG, they didn't move when they could have presumably also for "reasons".

Though there *are* plenty of genuine examples but they are typically not "third-rail" issues (though many of them should be in my book but there you go.)

Point is, there *is* an ongoing conversation in the US. My point is that many external commenters just seem to be pouting that a foreign country doesn't have the beliefs and values they would like them to have and are usually almost totally ignorant of the facts, the politics, the arguments (that have been ground out again and again), the nuances, the laws currently in place, the lack of enforcement, in many cases, of said laws and, for this particular issue, almost anything factual about the devices in question.

I would *welcome* a widespread review of gun laws in the US. The overwhelming majority of them would be thrown out as ineffectual if nothing else.

Damnit.  I am going to run out of merits.

[BitcoinBunny]

I don't think the gun laws is the main issue. Murder is already illegal.

How lost young men are, sure.

Terrible education. The attitude of "just leave it to women" etc. Attention whoring. Me, me, me. Propaganda media / TV encouraging this behaviour. Absolutely.

Sitting in a class room I think is the worst way to learn history or another language.

I learned more within 10 minutes at an intro speech at the Anne Frank House museum and visiting a castle in Wales than years of terrible history education at school.

Playing on an iPhone all day is not going to make you gain much of an appreciation of how lucky you are in life either.


School should be much more about team building / making things thus gaining an appreciation of how difficult that is and educators ensuring no one is left out at any point.

[cAPSLOCK]

Ok whatever.... you mentioned "popular will of the people"/"representative democracy. "
If that was truly the case, that last clown elected in 2016 would not have happened.

.....

I would *welcome* a widespread review of gun laws in the US. The overwhelming majority of them would be thrown out as ineffectual if nothing else.

The USA is a gun toting culture. Always has been, always will be.
So get used to mass shootings. (I'd venture to guess most Americans have at this point) They are not going away.
Debating gun laws in the USA is like debating religion.
Just like the thoughts and prayers the victims get, it's totally fruitless and useless. Sad but true.

I understand the temptation to equate something you disagree with with something else you disagree with, but let me explain how I see it.

When they come to take my property.  I have a choice afforded me by my constitution.  I can hand it over, or I can die defending it behind my AR15.  I am practiced, have a lot of ammo and though I will likely die defending my property, I will have had that honorable choice.  

The current president pointed out that my AR15 is no match against the government's F16s.  And that illustrates CLEARLY how close to the brink we are today.

An armed and ready populace is much harder to subdue than one that is not armed.  Over and over and over we can see clearly in history how it goes when one side holds the guns and the other does not.



If they come for me.  Some of them will die as well.

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[Wilhelm]

Another teenage mass murderer in the USA.

 

Happy Independence Day... Ugh....

 

6 dead, dozens wounded in shooting rampage at July 4th parade in Chicago suburb of Highland Park

Don't know what's stopping usa from reviewing there gun law. This is crossing limits now.

Gun laws just got reviewed in the supreme court. Didn't go the way you'd like. Sorry, not sorry.

It is sad that it has to be explained.  But the gun laws in the USA are there so that if they try in the US what is being tried in other countries across the world it will be much harder to do.

The news will most likely not report it, but the shooter in Chicago was an antifa type masquerading as a "Trumper".  Why is this happening, you might ask?

We are in a war.  A new sort of war.

Name five ANTIFA members?

You can't because it's a BS story fed to you by republicans...

With the amount of trump supporters going to jail it's getting harder to pass the blame.

[Dabs]

When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
Gun control means using both hands.
Good guys with guns do stop bad guys with guns. Maybe not all the time, but enough times to count for something.
When seconds count, the police are minutes away.




And observing...

[Muhammad Shoaib]